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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by WildCat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:09 pm

Mentat wrote:See, they can't resist. ;)
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Mentat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:29 pm

Still have you on ignore. You'd think they'd learn by now.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by WildCat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:49 pm

Mentat wrote:Still have you on ignore. You'd think they'd learn by now.
LOL!

Pretend ignore is a great way to avoid having to admit your ass has been handed to you on a silver platter.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:22 pm

Wildcat wrote: ... It's a district gerrymandered for the Democrats, the Illinois GOP didn't even run a candidate. Anyone can enter a race and call themselves any party they'd like, that's how the LaRouche's won a few Democratic primaries in Illinois in the 80s. ...
Wildcat provided some additional useful information.

Now for Grammy and the crusher. :mrgreen:
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Mentat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:34 pm

And that justifies being a nazi . . . how?
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:39 pm

Mentat wrote:And that justifies being a nazi . . . how?
Here is your prize. :cowbell:

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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Mentat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:46 pm

If you have nothing to add then fuck off. Every damn time far right extremism and nazis are brought up, the dipshits here are the first to pipe up and defend them; to distract; to change the topic. It's like clockwork. I've gotten fed up with it, and somehow that makes me the troll?
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:49 pm

Wait. Did Wildcat just blame a Nazi running in the GOP primaries on the Democrats?

Seriously?
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:54 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:Wait. Did Wildcat just blame a Nazi running in the GOP primaries on the Democrats?

Seriously?
He did, and makes a pretty good case for it.

But really it's the Republicans' fault for not bothering to run one of their disposable forgettable machine candidates.

It really seems a lot worse than it is if you approach the question as though Illinois were some sort of Democracy.

There may be districts where a Nazi could win, but this guy will not come close.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:58 pm

So now what the Republicans do is the Dems fault now? What did they do, mind control them? Perhaps the guy is REALLY a Democrat in disguise? Or is it just the usual "every thing bad is Democrat caused and all bad people are democrats. Therefore this guy, being bad person cannot possibly be a Republican, no matter what he calls himself, because all bad people are Democrats by definition"?

I fail to see how the fact that a Neo-nazi decided to run in Illinois is the fault of the Dems.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:05 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:So now what the Republicans do is the Dems fault now? ...
Not as a general rule, and not really in this case (IMO) though it's not as absurd as you might think.

There are districts where the Republicans just don't bother.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Mentat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:08 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:Wait. Did Wildcat just blame a Nazi running in the GOP primaries on the Democrats?

Seriously?
He did, and makes a pretty good case for it.
That's the same stupid logic that started this very thread. Justifying violent extremist against a target demographic because of some unrelated bullshit crying about that said demographic. Letting the nazis do your dirty work.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:15 pm

The Illinois 3rd District is not only solidly Democrat, it is an hereditary fiefdom.

No Republican can get elected to congress there. And no one not named Lipinski.

An Illinois Nazi (hate 'em of course) was able to sneak onto the Republican ballot because the Republican machine there primarily exists for the purpose of providing poll watchers who aren't Democrats. Because the law says you can't have all poll watchers from the same party.

Still the Republicans' fault. For being lazy bastards and Democrat lackeys.

It's not a microcosm of the USA.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by ed » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:21 pm

Mentat wrote:If you have nothing to add then fuck off. Every damn time far right extremism and nazis are brought up, the dipshits here are the first to pipe up and defend them; to distract; to change the topic. It's like clockwork. I've gotten fed up with it, and somehow that makes me the troll?
Sorry, I have not seen a Nazi in some time. Wannabes yeah, not Nazis though. Hardly worth getting the vapors over.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:31 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:The Illinois 3rd District is not only solidly Democrat, it is an hereditary fiefdom.

No Republican can get elected to congress there. And no one not named Lipinski.

An Illinois Nazi (hate 'em of course) was able to sneak onto the Republican ballot because the Republican machine there primarily exists for the purpose of providing poll watchers who aren't Democrats. Because the law says you can't have all poll watchers from the same party.

Still the Republicans' fault. For being lazy bastards and Democrat lackeys.

It's not a microcosm of the USA.
So how then is the fact that no Republican gave enough of a fuck to run against him the fault of the Dems? Other than Wildcat's standard position that EVERYTHING bad is the fault of the Dems and that the world would be perfect without them?
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Mentat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:39 pm

ed wrote:
Mentat wrote:If you have nothing to add then fuck off. Every damn time far right extremism and nazis are brought up, the dipshits here are the first to pipe up and defend them; to distract; to change the topic. It's like clockwork. I've gotten fed up with it, and somehow that makes me the troll?
Sorry, I have not seen a Nazi in some time. Wannabes yeah, not Nazis though. Hardly worth getting the vapors over.
I have not seen a terrorist in some time. Or illegal immigrant. Or SJWs (real ones, not anybody left of Mussolini). Therefore I'm going to dismiss everything you bring up about them. Fair?
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by ed » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:18 pm

Mentat wrote:
ed wrote:
Mentat wrote:If you have nothing to add then fuck off. Every damn time far right extremism and nazis are brought up, the dipshits here are the first to pipe up and defend them; to distract; to change the topic. It's like clockwork. I've gotten fed up with it, and somehow that makes me the troll?
Sorry, I have not seen a Nazi in some time. Wannabes yeah, not Nazis though. Hardly worth getting the vapors over.
I have not seen a terrorist in some time. Or illegal immigrant. Or SJWs (real ones, not anybody left of Mussolini). Therefore I'm going to dismiss everything you bring up about them. Fair?

Terrorists bomb the shit out of stuff here and in the ME and engage in murder. Illegals and SJW can be found by reading the papers.

Nazis? not so much. Saying one is one hardly makes one one.

Throwing a label at someone who does not evince the behavior is simply self referential and silly. Where have you seen a Nazi lately? White boys that scream epithets at blacks and jews? Where? In any event, thats little more than bad manners.
Or is it that you just don't like some people and calling them Nazis makes it easier to identify a group that can then be hated?

Do tell.
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:28 pm

ed wrote: Where have you seen a Nazi lately? White boys that scream epithets at blacks and jews? Where? In any event, thats little more than bad manners.
Dylan Roof and that guy that ran that car through those protesters in Charlottseville spring immediately to mind. Could probably find more if I actually wanted to spend the time. And what they did went far beyond 'Bad manners'

And I wonder where all this high minded talk of tolerance for opposing views is when Liberals are blamed for every ill on the face of the planet. Or is hating people for thier opinions only bad when the hatees are right wing?
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by Mentat » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:35 pm

ed wrote:
Mentat wrote:
ed wrote:
Mentat wrote:If you have nothing to add then fuck off. Every damn time far right extremism and nazis are brought up, the dipshits here are the first to pipe up and defend them; to distract; to change the topic. It's like clockwork. I've gotten fed up with it, and somehow that makes me the troll?
Sorry, I have not seen a Nazi in some time. Wannabes yeah, not Nazis though. Hardly worth getting the vapors over.
I have not seen a terrorist in some time. Or illegal immigrant. Or SJWs (real ones, not anybody left of Mussolini). Therefore I'm going to dismiss everything you bring up about them. Fair?

Terrorists bomb the shit out of stuff here and in the ME and engage in murder.
Until the orlando shooting, right wing extremists had been on par with murders as islamic terrorists.
Illegals and SJW can be found by reading the papers.
I'm referring to all the times nazis and right wing extremists show up in the news as well, and how you et all frown on bringing it up.
Nazis? not so much. Saying one is one hardly makes one one.
There litterally are a spate of examples brought up in this thread of neonazis.
Or is it that you just don't like some people and calling them Nazis makes it easier to identify a group that can then be hated?

Do tell.
Kind of like social justice warriors?
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Re: But don't call them violent thugs

Post by ed » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:39 pm

Thats two and you just make the cut to use a plural.

The point is that the term is used like "Emmanuel Goldstein", a true dog whistle and call to virtue when, in reality, the problem is vanishingly small.
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