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Re: Back Sassin' Harassin'

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:40 am

It may be one of the animating forces, even if they wouldn't even admit it to themselves.

On a more immediate level, I don't think people think to themselves, let's throw our completely innocent colleague under the bus because it will "lay the groundwork" for impeachment. It's a little more complicated than that. It's more like, if we don't do this, then we will be accused of massive hypocrisy when we demand that Trump be removed.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:35 pm

That sounds right, modulo "completely innocent" does not exist when guilt keeps being redefined.
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Re: Back Sassin' Harassin'

Post by ed » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:48 pm

"Modulo???????

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Post by RCC: Act II » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:53 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:One theory is "they" think they are preparing the moral groundwork for impeaching the pussy grabber.

Is this possible? That this is the conscious purpose of the ideological enterprise not the actual impeachment.
He will never be impeached for sex stuff unless someone turns up conclusive proof of either violent rape or child molestation, and I'm talking pre-pubescent children here...

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Post by Doctor X » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:18 pm

NFL Network Suspends Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor, Heath Evans After Sexual Harassment Lawsuit

NFL Network has suspended Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor and Heath Evans while investigating claims of sexual harassment from a lawsuit filed by one of their former colleagues.

Jami Cantor, who worked as a wardrobe stylist for NFL Network, filed a wrongful termination suit against NFL Enterprises in Los Angeles Superior Court back in October. As first reported by Bloomberg, she described incidents of harassment by the three retired players, as well as Eric Weinberger, a former network executive producer and current president of Bill Simmons Media Group.

In the suit, Cantor claims that Faulk groped her breasts and behind and asked “deeply personal and invasive questions” about her sex life. She said that both Taylor and Weinberger sent her inappropriate pictures, with Taylor additionally sending her a video of him masturbating in the shower. Cantor also noted that Weinberger said on one occasion that she was “put on earth to pleasure me” and pressed his crotch against her, asking her to touch it. She also described receiving explicit texts from former NFL Network analyst Donovan McNabb, who currently appears on ESPN.

The network has suspended the three former players. Bill Simmons could not be reached for comment by Bloomberg regarding Weinberger’s role in his company.

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Post by RCC: Act II » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:26 pm

A more cynical man than me would suggest a "dead pool" type contest about this...

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:35 pm

ed wrote:"Modulo???????

Irredeemable wanker
At least not a "hateful wanker" 8)

ed's a real nice guy, modulo when he's doing this shtick. :De_Bunk:
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Post by Pyrrho » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:29 am

Tavis Smiley.

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Post by Boss Paul » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:49 am

Here tell they'll be some fresh meat from something called "ESPN."

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Post by Dragline » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:09 am

Lookin' it up, here, boss!
He ain't in the box because of the joke played on him. He back-sassed a free man. They got their rules. We ain't got nothin' to do with that. Would probably have happened to him sooner or later anyway, a complainer like him. He gotta learn the rules the same as anybody else.

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Post by Doctor X » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:29 am

The Bristol, Conn., juggernaut was under scrutiny for a sexual harassment and retaliation complaint filed this summer with the Connecticut Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Some women said that the environment at ESPN can be so hostile — and plum positions for female sports journalists so precarious — that they hid pregnancies and felt pressured to take short maternity leaves in order to protect their positions. One anchor even did her scheduled broadcast while she was having a miscarriage to prove her commitment to her job, according to former employees.

Another woman, one of the few solo female anchors on SportsCenter, said she was told her show was moving in another direction and she’d no longer have a job on it weeks before she went on maternity leave last year. She is one of several who said they were given less desirable positions or laid off before, during, or after maternity leave.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

“ESPN has failed to address its deeply ingrained culture of sexism and hostile treatment of women,” said Adrienne Lawrence, who filed the complaint this summer against ESPN. Lawrence had worked as a lawyer before she joined ESPN in 2015 as part of a fellowship designed to increase racial diversity at the sports network.

ESPN is one of the most coveted places for sports journalists, and its sheer size gives more opportunities to women than many other outlets. But over the years, the company has been plagued by sexual misconduct scandals that have resulted in several lawsuits and filled the pages of at least two books, “ESPN: The Uncensored History,” and “Those Guys Have All the Fun.” Many employees have said the isolated location in Bristol only exacerbates problems in a male-dominated workplace.

ESPN said that the company takes sexual harassment seriously. Just this week, ESPN suspended Donovan McNabb and Eric Davis, former NFL players who host shows on ESPN Radio, after they were named in a lawsuit claiming they sexually harassed an employee at the NFL Network.

[Various claims by ESPN that they have made improvement "snipped."--Ed.]

But charges of insensitivity to women surfaced again last year when broadcaster Erin Andrews testified that ESPN would not let her return to work until she did an interview in 2009 about a stalkerwho leaked videos of her undressing at a hotel during a work trip in order to prove that she didn’t release the materials herself. Andrews, who left ESPN for Fox Sports in 2012, testified that she was crying while she waited to do an interview with Oprah.

Many people who described concerns with the atmosphere at ESPN declined to speak on the record because they feared losing their jobs or being blackballed from other sports outlets who do business with ESPN. Some were reluctant to identify the alleged harassers because they worried it would out their own identities and subject them to retaliation.

But others are speaking openly. In her complaint, Adrienne Lawrence describes a toxic environment at ESPN headquarters where men make unwanted sexual and romantic advances under the guise of networking or mentoring, and “mark” women as their own by spreading false rumors about sexual relationships with female employees.

Lawrence accused John Buccigross, a longtime SportsCenter anchor whom she viewed as a mentor, of sending unsolicited shirtless photographs of himself and calling her “dollface,” “#dreamgirl,” and “#longlegs” in messages from 2016 reviewed by the Globe. Lawrence said she tried to remain cordial in the messages but at one point responded: “You need to wear clothes, sir.”

When rumors spread that the two were in a relationship, Lawrence repeatedly complained to company officials and was advised by a supervisor to drop the matter, according to the complaint.

Lawrence said ESPN retaliated against her by reducing her on-air shifts and ultimately denying her a permanent position. The other fellow, a male, received a job offer. The Globe interviewed three former employees whom Lawrence had confided in at the time about her treatment and confirmed her account.

Buccigross, roughly two decades older than Lawrence, acknowledged sending the photos but denied starting any rumors that the two were in a relationship.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Buccigross noted that after he sent the first shirtless picture, Lawrence texted about the possibility of getting together that weekend. Buccigross said they texted frequently over a couple of months and talked about personal issues as well as advice on improving her on-air delivery.

ESPN said it conducted a “thorough investigation” and found Lawrence’s claims to be “entirely without merit.” Lawrence was never guaranteed a permanent position, ESPN said, and it notified her at the same time that other employees were told that their contracts would not be renewed.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Current and former employees say the network still faces problems when it comes to older men preying on younger women, particularly production assistants just out of college.

“It’s like cutting your arm in an ocean full of sharks,” said one current employee, who said she has received unwanted physical contact from one colleague and listened to another rate women on a score of one to ten. “The second new blood is in the water, they start circling.”

A current employee said a male coworker accompanied her to the cafeteria to protect her from an older male colleague who had made unwanted advances, including an attempted kiss. One former employee said that she faced sexual harassment from at least four men and that complaints to human resources went nowhere.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Spain last year appeared in a video “More than Mean” that went viral and featured men reading harassing and threatening tweets that Spain and another female journalist had received. The day after the video aired, ESPN’s president John Skipper reached out to Spain and they worked together to try and address concerns about the trolls on Twitter.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

But some current and former employees describe a highly competitive environment where female anchors feel disposable and where their dedication is sometimes challenged by male superiors. That’s what colleagues say happened to Sara Walsh, the anchor who had the on-air miscarriage.

Shortly after Mike McQuade took over as vice president of SportsCenter in 2014, he questioned Walsh’s commitment because she also worked for The Fantasy Show during the football season. Walsh, who had recently signed a multi-year contract and helped host an opening for ESPN’s new digital center, was shocked that her new boss was raising concerns, according to three former employees briefed on the matter at the time.

Walsh was so worried about her job that she decided not to call in sick when she started bleeding from a miscarriage during a work trip to Alabama. Instead, she went to the studio and anchored the show. She described the on-air miscarriage in an Instagram post on Mother’s Day this past year, but Walsh told the Globe she could not comment because she is still under contract.

Former employees said that Walsh was upset that McQuade did not respond to an e-mail she wrote from the hospital about the miscarriage, and she was soon sent back to the same Alabama set where she had miscarried.

McQuade acknowledged that he “likely” discussed with Walsh her work on the Fantasy Show but said it “should not have given Sara any concern about her job,” McQuade said if he failed to respond to Walsh’s e-mail about the miscarriage, “it was certainly not done with malicious intent.” What intent would it be? You ignore e-mails from workers who miscarry?

After Walsh raised concerns about her treatment, she was told the matter had been investigated and was handled properly even though she was never interviewed, according to the former employees. Shortly after, Walsh was assigned to fewer shows, a move that she viewed as retaliation for speaking up, according to the employees. No surprise given ESPN carries the NFL's water.

Walsh eventually conceived again and talked to human resources before she went on maternity leave to get assurances her position was safe. But days before she planned to return from maternity leave this past April, ESPN notified her that she was part of the layoffs.

McQuade denied any retaliation and said he was not involved in determining who was let go.

Walsh’s experience was not isolated, according to other women at ESPN.Anchor Jade McCarthy said she lost on-air opportunities after getting pregnant. McCarthy said she was moved off weekend SportsCenter shows when she returned from her first pregnancy at ESPN and was laid off this past April when she was nearly eight months pregnant. Lindsay Czarniak — one of the few female solo SportsCenter anchors in 2016 — said she chose to walk away after the company offered her a different job at a significant pay cut when she returned from maternity leave this year.

In 2005, an employee sued ESPN, claiming she was terminated because she was pregnant. The case was later settled.

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Post by Boss Paul » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:16 am

He got his mind right.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:04 pm

The clear lesson here is don't hire women.
Because the liability.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:48 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:The clear lesson here is don't hire women.
Because the liability.

/JK of course.
Of course. 8)


It's really because they are bitches, right? :notsure:
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Post by Rob Lister » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:35 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:The clear lesson here is don't hire women.
Because the liability.

/JK of course.
You may be joking but that really is the clear lesson. It will be very passive aggressive, though.

From strictly the Hollywood perspective, I'll be interested to see how the more outspoken #metoo ladies do in the future. All of the accused have actual good friends in really high places.

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Post by Boss Paul » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:37 pm

Carr!

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Andrea Ramsey, a Democratic candidate for Congress, will drop out of the race after the Kansas City Star asked her about accusations in a 2005 lawsuit that she sexually harassed and retaliated against a male subordinate who said he had rejected her advances.

Multiple sources with knowledge of the case told The Star that the man reached a settlement with LabOne, the company where Ramsey was executive vice president of human resources. Court documents show that the man, Gary Funkhouser, and LabOne agreed to dismiss the case permanently after mediation in 2006.

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Post by Dragline » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:13 pm

Will grab-ass be allowed on Saturday afternoon, Boss?

But my boy Buchy, seems his messages weren't so one sided. Tramp brought back a newspaper from New York that states:
In response to the complaint she and a lawyer filed against ESPN over the summer, the network deduced the pair “had a consensual, personal friendship that spanned months.”

Though the shirtless photographs were omitted, the conversation, dated between June 4, 2016 through Sept. 7, 2016, ranges from discussing dinner meetings to music tastes and smiley face emojis. Buccigross calls Lawrence “dollface” and “doll” on three occasions.

ESPN maintains Lawrence’s allegations are “entirely without merit.”
He ain't in the box because of the joke played on him. He back-sassed a free man. They got their rules. We ain't got nothin' to do with that. Would probably have happened to him sooner or later anyway, a complainer like him. He gotta learn the rules the same as anybody else.

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