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Re: #MeToo (generic)....

Post by gnome » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:48 am

I've made my peace with acting with some degree of "chivalry". I just admit it's a little bit sexist. That's gone over well even with some fairly intensely feminist friends. Granted everyone has their own little island of experience, but it's a rare woman I've met that actually objects to having doors opened for them or being paid for on dates--even, as I've noted, the actively feminist. Mostly the ones that care at all are happy if I'm aware that it comes from some ideas that are a little fucked up. Perhaps less wanting to insist that the behavior stop than just not wanting to deal with people arguing there's nothing going on there.
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Post by Skeeve » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:16 am

gnome wrote:I've made my peace with acting with some degree of "chivalry". I just admit it's a little bit sexist. That's gone over well even with some fairly intensely feminist friends.
I still do it once in a while also...

Meanwhile: The “Pence rule” is trending in South Korea as #MeToo takes hold
Following a series of explosive allegations of sexual harassment in South Korea in recent weeks—with the latest bringing down one of the country’s most prominent politicians—some Korean men are trying to figure out how to navigate gender relations in the world of #MeToo.

Enter US vice president Mike Pence.

The term “Pence rule” has been trending since yesterday (March 7) on South Korean’s biggest internet portal, Naver. The term is a reference to a comment the vice president made in a 2002 interview where he talked about avoiding dining alone with women apart from his wife.

“An increasing number of men showing extra vigilance around women at work have created a ‘Mike Pence Rule’ situation in Korea,” wrote the Korea Herald, which detailed stories of men who have decided to avoid women in the office altogether. One man said he asked his boss not to send him on business trips with female colleagues to avoid any potential misunderstandings.
Really, this should not be a surprise...
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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:19 am

Texas Instruments CEO Ousted for Code of Conduct Breach

It's not totally clear if this has anything to do with #MeToo, because they haven't said what the "breach" was, but it sounds like probably something like that.
Texas Instruments Inc. said Chief Executive Officer Brian Crutcher resigned after less than two months in the job, citing violations of the chipmaker’s code of conduct. His predecessor, Rich Templeton, will resume the role on a permanent basis.

“The violations are related to personal behavior that is not consistent with our ethics and core values, but not related to company strategy, operations or financial reporting,” the company said Tuesday in a statement, without elaborating. Shares of Dallas-based Texas Instruments fell 2.3 percent in extended trading.

Crutcher is the third chip company leader in less than two months to leave his job over a breach of rules on personal conduct, following the departures of Intel Corp.’s and Rambus Inc.’s CEOs. Intel’s Brian Krzanich was found to have had an extramarital relationship with another employee. Those resignations, as well as the broader backdrop of the #metoo movement focused on eradicating gender-based discrimination, harassment and abuse, may be triggering heightened scrutiny of the personal behavior of tech-industry executives.

“It’s quite surprising -- TI has always been so by the book and their executives have always been so well-trained,” said Tore Svanberg, an analyst at Stifel Nicolaus & Co. “Boards are definitely under pressure to do what’s right ethically.”

The board acted after receiving a report on Crutcher’s behavior, Templeton said in an internal video address to employees. A company spokesman declined to comment on the nature of the violation and whether it was related to a personal relationship.

By acting to remove him, directors were forced to go back on their earlier ringing endorsement.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:13 am

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Post by shuize » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:32 am

On the one hand, given the current climate, it seems dumb to add coed bikini photos to his lecture.

On the other hand, how can I possibly judge culpability without seeing the photos for myself?

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Post by ed » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:47 am

gnome wrote:I've made my peace with acting with some degree of "chivalry". I just admit it's a little bit sexist. That's gone over well even with some fairly intensely feminist friends. Granted everyone has their own little island of experience, but it's a rare woman I've met that actually objects to having doors opened for them or being paid for on dates--even, as I've noted, the actively feminist. Mostly the ones that care at all are happy if I'm aware that it comes from some ideas that are a little fucked up. Perhaps less wanting to insist that the behavior stop than just not wanting to deal with people arguing there's nothing going on there.
I have instructed my daughters that they should demand chivalrous behaviors in their partners (see the progressive thing I did there?) and that if it is not forthcoming, they should administer a vigorous kick to the pills.

I have, though, been physically threatened due to my request that they curtsy when they enter a room that I'm in.

And, of course, they are all licensed to carry firearms.

I think I may have mixed my metaphors a bit with them.
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Post by Skeeve » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:22 am

Anaxagoras wrote:Texas Instruments CEO Ousted for Code of Conduct Breach

It's not totally clear if this has anything to do with #MeToo, because they haven't said what the "breach" was, but it sounds like probably something like that.
Texas Instruments Inc. said Chief Executive Officer Brian Crutcher resigned after less than two months in the job, citing violations of the chipmaker’s code of conduct. His predecessor, Rich Templeton, will resume the role on a permanent basis.

“The violations are related to personal behavior that is not consistent with our ethics and core values, but not related to company strategy, operations or financial reporting,” the company said Tuesday in a statement, without elaborating. Shares of Dallas-based Texas Instruments fell 2.3 percent in extended trading.
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By acting to remove him, directors were forced to go back on their earlier ringing endorsement.
Well that must have sucked!

At any rate, still no definitive reason why they tossed him off. For all we know he was taking bribes...
Still, the lame-stream feminized media can't help but try to paint this in the same color as #metoo.

From: Texas Instruments CEO Ousted for Code of Conduct Breach
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At least 437 high-profile executives and employees had been accused of harassment or other misconduct as the #metoo movement has increased scrutiny of all executive behavior over the last 18 months, according to a tally updated daily by crisis-consulting firm Temin & Co. Of those, 259 were fired or left their jobs, the study found.

“Pandora’s box has been opened and there’s no putting the lid back on,” said Davia Temin, founder and CEO of Temin & Co. “There’s been a lot of bad behavior, for a long time, and in the past it’s often been walled off or dealt with privately. But now scrutiny has been unleashed.”
Begs the question, what was the deal with the other 178?

Were they false accusations, or just not enough information to fire a person?

Given how easy it is to get someone fired these days, it is a fair question.
Consider what happens when some SJW types call a company to complain "so-and-so (one of your employees) is racist!"
quite often a company will dismiss 'so-and-so."


What ever, I think we can expect the "Mike Pence Rule" to take further hold on corporate America....
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Post by Skeeve » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:32 am

Meanwhile on the "other side of the pond"...
Anonymity for MPs accused of sexual harassment will look like attempted cover-ups, standards committee warns

I guess "protection from the press" may only apply if your part of an "Asian Grooming Gang."
Oh well. It seems they may be able to write their own exceptions though...
A new code of conduct enabling MPs accused of sexual harassment to remain anonymous will be seen as politicians trying to cover up their misdoings, the chairman of the standards committee has warned.

Labour’s Sir Kevin Barron said he agreed confidentiality was important to ensure people come forward with allegations, but said publishing the name of an MP under investigation would not cause “irreparable damage” to the probe.

As the House of Commons leader Andrea Leadsom outlined the new complaints and grievances scheme for MPs and peers, Sir Kevin moved an amendment, defeated by 79 votes to 22, which sought to ensure the names of individuals under investigation can be published.
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Post by gnome » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:22 am

We don't give public officials the same privacy as citizens. I think that is necessary, though of course the details are debatable.
I don't know if that's the distinguishing factor here.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:18 am

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Post by Doctor X » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:59 am

Good.

He is lucky she did not kick his teeth in.

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Post by Skeeve » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:00 pm

THEN: The takedown of Chris Hardwick shows #MeToo has gone too far
Call it The Revenge of #MeToo. It frightens me.

People who tuned in Sunday night to AMC were greeted by a terse, one-sentence message on their screens:

“ ‘Talking with Chris Hardwick’ will not be seen tonight.”

The erasure of Hardwick from the airwaves and the public square was swift, brutal and nearly complete.
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Hardwick, for his part, denies completely engaging in abuse and attributes the wounded feelings to a long relationship gone awry. He put out a statement claiming that he was done with Dykstra after she was unfaithful. She admits to as much.
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Hardwick found some encouragement in the Twitterverse, where fed-up fans of his gathered to express their discomfort with the lack of due process in destroying a man’s reputation and perhaps career. One tweeter asked why the accuser did not go to authorities.
Due Process?
File a police report?
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#MeToo developed as a movement in which people might find empowerment by standing up to abusers. Now it’s being used as a cudgel for aggrieved parties to exact revenge.

It disturbs me, and I worry that as more people, most of them women, abuse this power, and if more outlets fire employees without vetting the accusations, the public will start disbelieving all accounts of abuse.
NOW:AMC Clears Chris Hardwick To Return...
Days after being absent from his annual duty as moderator for The Walking Dead panel at Comic-Con, Chris Hardwick has been given the green light by AMC to return to the air after allegations of sexual assault and emotional abuse by an ex-girlfriend.

Days after being absent from his annual duty as moderator for The Walking Dead panel at Comic-Con, Chris Hardwick has been given the green light by AMC to return to the air after allegations of sexual assault and emotional abuse by an ex-girlfriend.
Well, he wasn't fired for good...but I suspect his reputation has taken a hit.
Perhaps he will sue her into the stone age...
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Post by Skeeve » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:36 pm

Vatican meets #MeToo: Nuns denounce their abuse by priests
VATICAN CITY (AP) — The nun no longer goes to confession regularly, after an Italian priest forced himself on her while she was at her most vulnerable: recounting her sins to him in a university classroom nearly 20 years ago.

At the time, the sister only told her provincial superior and her spiritual director, silenced by the Catholic Church's culture of secrecy, her vows of obedience and her own fear, repulsion and shame.

"It opened a great wound inside of me," she told the Associated Press. "I pretended it didn't happen."

After decades of silence, the nun is one of a handful worldwide to come forward recently on an issue that the Catholic Church has yet to come to terms with: The sexual abuse of religious sisters by priests and bishops. An AP examination has found that cases have emerged in Europe, Africa, South America and Asia, demonstrating that the problem is global and pervasive, thanks to the universal tradition of sisters' second-class status in the Catholic Church and their ingrained subservience to the men who run it.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:57 pm

At least they are not homos. :)
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Post by Skeeve » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:37 am

Bill Clinton's name stripped from NH Democratic Party fundraising gala, amid 'Me Too' movement
CONCORD, N.H. – Former President Bill Clinton’s name no longer adorns the Democratic Party’s major fall fundraising dinner in the state that made him “the comeback kid” and launched him on the road to the White House.

The New Hampshire state party announced Tuesday that their annual Kennedy-Clinton Dinner will now be known as the Eleanor Roosevelt Dinner, in honor of the famous first lady who went on to serve as the first U.S. delegate to the United Nations.

"We are proud to honor Eleanor Roosevelt, a woman revered around the world for her bold leadership and tireless efforts to create justice. She dedicated her life to helping all hard-working Americans and all those who needed a champion," state party Chairman Ray Buckley said in a statement.
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The change comes amid the rise of the “Me Too” movement, which has drawn attention to examples of powerful men in politics, media and business who have sexually harassed women in the workplace.
Kennedy and Clinton. There is a pair of philanderers....
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Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:02 pm

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Post by Giz » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:32 pm

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Post by ed » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:37 pm

There is another point here. At what point do we admit that such behavior is normal? Seems to me if it is ubiquitous we should "normalize" it as we have with so many other behaviors.
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