Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

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Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by WildCat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:17 pm

Rep. Jim Jordan (R, OH) ties it all together:

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Basically the top echelon of the FBI was composed of Hillary/Democrat sycophants who went to extraordinary lengths to exonerate Hilary and then went to equally extraordinary lengths to spy on the Trump campaign, with the full cooperation of the sitting President's administration. They took opposition research paid for by Hillary and the DNC of very questionable veracity, with much of the money being used to pay Russian sources, dressed it up as an intelligence document and used it to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. Then the Obama Administration selectively unmasked and leaked information from those wiretaps to influence the election towards the results they wanted.

This is really incredible stuff, much worse than Watergate. Much worse than McCarthyism. It's a unified effort by the sitting President, the FBI, and intelligence agencies to skew the results of a Presidential election. And now, because the efforts to get the person they wanted elected failed, those same agencies are trying to oust the President from office under false pretenses that he was the one collaborating with the Russians.

I don't care which side of the political spectrum you're on, or if you really hate Trump, this ought to have you extremely concerned. These government agencies are out of control, and the Obama Administration was even more corrupt than even most of his opponents thought possible.
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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by WildCat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:20 pm

Here's the entire 5 hours of Wray's testimony if you have time to watch, I haven't so can't point out the juicy parts for you.

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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:39 pm

What a load of nonsense.
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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by Doctor X » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:43 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:What a load of nonsense.
Yeah, I know, I mean who needs to watch 5 hours of video to learn the extraordinary revelation that referring to children as "little wetbacks" is bigoted

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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by WildCat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:55 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:What a load of nonsense.
What's nonsensical about it? Be specific.
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Post by corplinx » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:58 pm

It's a disorganized conspiracy of dunces though. There was no mastermind or anything. It was just the deep state actors doing what they do with their personal biases not in check.

There was no J. Edgar ordering people from the top here, this is the problem of the Federal Government having too much power. Groupthink is now dangerous because we've created so much Federal Law without enough structure or oversight.

The libertarians have been right on this one for decades, but they are too busy shooting themselves in the foot over having private police and roads.

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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:04 pm

Well for starters Wray is a Trump loyalist so anything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by WildCat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:09 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:Well for starters Wray is a Trump loyalist so anything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
What leads you to believe he's a Trump loyalist? If he's a Trump loyalist why has he been stonewalling Congressional attempts to get documents related to the dossier and Strzok for months? And what did he say that should be taken with a grain of salt? He dodged every question.

It's your claim he's a Trump loyalist, you provide the evidence. "Trump appointed him", btw, is not evidence he's a Trump loyalist.

eta: Wray was confirmed by a 95-5 Senate vote, so if he's a Trump loyalist the Senate Dems missed the memo. This wasn't a low-profile appointment.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:19 pm

I'm sick and I'm going to bed so we'll just have to continue this discussion later.
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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by ed » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:15 pm

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Anaxagoras wrote:What a load of nonsense.
Yeah, I know, I mean who needs to watch 5 hours of video to learn the extraordinary revelation that referring to children as "little wetbacks" is bigoted

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Post by Mentat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:11 pm

Anybody up for a bridge for sale? It gets 32 miles to the gallon.
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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by shemp » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:40 pm

WildCat, put down the crack pipe!
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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:01 pm

No. Fucking Wildcat. You wade through that 5 hours and bring to us your fucking points.

Don't expect us to do that if you haven't.

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Post by Mentat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:04 pm

Rob Lister wrote:No. Fucking Wildcat. You wade through that 5 hours and bring to us your fucking points.

Don't expect us to do that if you haven't.

mutherfuckin asshole somebitch cracker jackass.
My rebuttal:

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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by WildCat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:05 pm

Rob Lister wrote:No. Fucking Wildcat. You wade through that 5 hours and bring to us your fucking points.

Don't expect us to do that if you haven't.
I only put it there in case someone wanted to whine about how the short video was out of context.

Shemp and Mentat just want to stick their fingers in their ears, cover their eyes, and whimper to themselves "no no no Russia Trump collusion it has to be true it has to be true".

Because what Jim Jordan said has more evidence going for it than the theory that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election from Hillary when it was Her turn.
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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by shemp » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:36 pm

La la la, I can't hear you, you knuckle-dragging sewer-dwelling troglodyte!
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Post by Doctor X » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:52 pm

But at least he is not a wetback.

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Re: Some Extraordinary Revelations In Congress Yesterday 12/7

Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:00 am

WildCat wrote:Rep. Jim Jordan (R, OH) ties it all together:

[youtube][/youtube]
Finally watched this, Jordan seems to be doing all the talking. I take back what I said about Wray, I don't know if he's a Trump loyalist or not, but Jordan clearly has a political agenda.

Here's what I take issue with:
Basically the top echelon of the FBI was composed of Hillary/Democrat sycophants who went to extraordinary lengths to exonerate Hilary and then went to equally extraordinary lengths to spy on the Trump campaign, with the full cooperation of the sitting President's administration. They took opposition research paid for by Hillary and the DNC of very questionable veracity, with much of the money being used to pay Russian sources, dressed it up as an intelligence document and used it to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. Then the Obama Administration selectively unmasked and leaked information from those wiretaps to influence the election towards the results they wanted.

This is really incredible stuff, much worse than Watergate. Much worse than McCarthyism. It's a unified effort by the sitting President, the FBI, and intelligence agencies to skew the results of a Presidential election. And now, because the efforts to get the person they wanted elected failed, those same agencies are trying to oust the President from office under false pretenses that he was the one collaborating with the Russians.

I don't care which side of the political spectrum you're on, or if you really hate Trump, this ought to have you extremely concerned. These government agencies are out of control, and the Obama Administration was even more corrupt than even most of his opponents thought possible.
I don't see any evidence for any of the highlighted parts.
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Post by Doctor X » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:29 am

He said it with conviction, Anax.

See, if you typed it in ALL CAPS you would convey those statements better.

You would also have no argument.

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Post by RCC: Act II » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:34 am

If Hillary was half as clever as the Trump people think, I guess I'd be irrationally obsessed with her too.