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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Grammatron » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:47 pm

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Mentat » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:51 pm

Then don't use it as a shield.
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:54 pm

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Witness » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:11 am

Well, the West's decline is a theme since a century at least:

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And all that. :mrgreen:

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:55 am

In the case of Sweden we are not talking about some general "decline".

Their absolute moral commitment to their own extinction is far beyond anything found elsewhere in the declining West.

It is clearly a conscious deliberate policy, effectively being implemented. Not just a "trend" or a "tendency".
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by ed » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:56 am

I think that europeans are so fucked up by what they did to themselves in the last century that they are incoherent on a number of fronts. In fact, if they were a person, they'd be institutionalized for their own good. Sand sure as shit would not be allowed to pontificate on any moral or ethical topic.
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by ed » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:08 pm

Germans Will Ring in New Year With Extra Security, Especially for Women
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Giz » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:00 pm

ed wrote:
Germans Will Ring in New Year With Extra Security, Especially for Women
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/worl ... icle-click
More bollards, more police, more cctv, more assault , more vehicular rampages.

Just the new normal. Nothing to be done. Keep calm and invoke the dunkirk spirit (as if Churchill ignored the panzer in the room while telling folks to stay calm)

Depressing.

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by RCC: Act II » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:02 am

Mentat wrote:
And there are countless examples of false racist hysteria that society will collapse because of those demographics taking over america, and yet here we are.
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Witness » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:29 am

I just hope Europe won't sink into chaos before I've emptied my cellar.

And happy New Year to you all, bunch of heathens! :mrgreen:

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by sparks » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:53 am

Yea, she's a babe, but she's got a rotten brain...

(ixnay on the ottenray...)
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:12 am

2nd explosion rocks Malmo, Sweden in less than a week
Another explosion has rocked the Swedish city of Malmo, just days after a grenade attack directly targeted a police station.

No injuries have been reported in the blast that happened around 9pm local time outside a restaurant located in an office building in the Rosengard city district, police said.
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Rosengard is one of the locations in Sweden described as “a geographically-defined area characterized by a low socio-economic status where criminals have an impact on the local community.” Authorities have long struggled to quell the violence associated with conflicts erupting between various gangs and ethnic groups in recent years.
In other words "a no-go zone"

Teens roam streets with rifles as crime swamps Sweden
The blast was so powerful that it shook windows a mile away. Ahmad’s first thought was that someone had thrown yet another bomb at the police.

He was right. On Wednesday night an explosive device was hurled at the police station in Rosengard, a troubled area of Malmo, Sweden’s third largest city.

Attacks on the police are increasingly frequent. Rosengard’s force works from a black fortress of reinforced concrete with narrow windows and a 10ft-high electric fence.

“I knew it was a bomb again,” said Ahmad, 53, who lives in the area with his wife and their four teenage children.
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For a long time the Swedish establishment played down the decay of immigrant-dominated suburbs, but it can no longer ignore the explosion of violence.

Stefan Lofven, the Social Democrat prime minister, said last week that he was ready to deploy the military to “stamp out” organised crime. The next day another bomb went off in Malmo, this time in front of a private property.

“We have really reached the bottom: people use machineguns and hand grenades — they want to kill,” said Zoran Markovic, the former chief of community policing in Rosengard.

Markovic, a decorated officer, is the Swedish-born son of immigrants from Serbia. Rosengard’s new fortified police station was built after his locker room in the old building was peppered with bullets in a drive-by shooting.
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:55 am

Fuck it, since it is behind a pay wall, I will copy and paste the whole thing...
The blast was so powerful that it shook windows a mile away. Ahmad’s first thought was that someone had thrown yet another bomb at the police.

He was right. On Wednesday night an explosive device was hurled at the police station in Rosengard, a troubled area of Malmo, Sweden’s third largest city.

Attacks on the police are increasingly frequent. Rosengard’s force works from a black fortress of reinforced concrete with narrow windows and a 10ft-high electric fence.

“I knew it was a bomb again,” said Ahmad, 53, who lives in the area with his wife and their four teenage children.

Sweden is among the world’s safest, richest and best-run countries enjoying steady growth and rising employment. But it has been experiencing an unprecedented surge of gang shootings, bombings and sexual assaults.

In a country of 10m people, more than 320 shootings and dozens of bombings were reported in 2017, along with more than 110 murders and 7,226 rapes — a 10% increase on 2016. More than 36% of young Swedish women say they feel unsafe at night.

The authorities have admitted they are unable to investigate rape cases immediately because the resources are focused on gang crime. “We are forced to choose between two evils,” the police said.

The crime surge is mainly confined to so-called “areas of social exclusion”, a code for neighbourhoods such as Rosengard that are predominantly populated by immigrants. They are not classic ghettos — the infrastructure and services are better than in areas of central London — but these communities are plagued by high crime rates and unemployment.

In Malmo, where a fifth of the 340,000 inhabitants are under 18, children as young as 14 roam the streets with Kalashnikov assault rifles and bulletproof vests. The average age of gang members is 22, the vast majority of them hailing from migrant families.

Sweden has pursued a liberal immigration policy for more than a generation; its government speaks of being a “humanitarian superpower” for having taken in a large number of asylum seekers. After the migrant crisis of 2015, when more than 160,000 people sought asylum, the policy was abruptly changed. Yet there is little debate or reliable data about the integration of the 12% of the population that derive from non-western countries.

For a long time the Swedish establishment played down the decay of immigrant-dominated suburbs, but it can no longer ignore the explosion of violence.

Stefan Lofven, the Social Democrat prime minister, said last week that he was ready to deploy the military to “stamp out” organised crime. The next day another bomb went off in Malmo, this time in front of a private property.

“We have really reached the bottom: people use machineguns and hand grenades — they want to kill,” said Zoran Markovic, the former chief of community policing in Rosengard.

Markovic, a decorated officer, is the Swedish-born son of immigrants from Serbia. Rosengard’s new fortified police station was built after his locker room in the old building was peppered with bullets in a drive-by shooting.

The situation has drastically worsened in the past two years. Markovic said the police are overstretched. Rosengard’s main school, which had pupils from nearly 200 different ethnic backgrounds, was closed because of social tension.

Barely three miles away, in Malmo’s centre, there is little sign of the crime epidemic. The old Hanseatic port is a vibrant area of medieval cobblestoned squares and contemporary architecture.

This is replicated across the country. Alongside the pockets of violence, Sweden continues to flourish, with low crime rates and a booming economy. Its citizens read about gangland wars with disbelief, although crime is increasingly spilling into middle-class areas.

Ted Eriksson, 34, was inspired to become a police officer after a stint as an assistant to Kenneth Branagh, the British actor, during the filming of the Wallander crime series.

Last August Eriksson was on duty at a pro-refugee rally in Stockholm when he was stabbed by an Afghan asylum seeker. He survived with minor injuries. The assailant claimed to be 17 but was suspected of being in his late twenties. He said he wanted to kill a policeman.

Rinkeby, a 20-minute metro ride from Stockholm’s old centre, is one of Sweden’s most crime-ridden areas. Paramedics and firefighters demand a police escort to go there. After nightfall, gangs of young men dominate the streets, offering drugs at the entrance to the station. A 25-year-old man was shot dead in a pizzeria this month.

When I visited Rinkeby last week a group of youths in shell suits aggressively asked why I was in their neighbourhood. Their tone turned more respectful when they found out that I am from the Balkans — the homeland of many local criminal kingpins. Born and raised in Rinkeby, they declared themselves not Swedish but Somali, Afghan or Lebanese.

Hanif Azizi, who came to Sweden from Iran as an unaccompanied refugee at the age of nine nearly 30 years ago, is a senior policeman in Rinkeby. “Hating police is part of some of these kids’ cultures. If as a society we have decided to take in refugees, we must set high standards: not ask what our society can do for them, but what they can do for our society,” he said.

Norway’s immigration minister, Sylvi Listhaug, visited Rinkeby last year to “learn” from the mistakes of “uncontrolled migration and poor integration”.

Stockholm’s mayor, Karin Wanngard, protested that Rinkeby was a “fine neighbourhood” and “teeming with vitality”.

A spate of shootings forced her to change her tune. The “growing brutality” among gangs has become “unprecedented” she said earlier this month.

It is taboo to make a link between immigrants and crime, according to Tino Sanandaji, a Swedish economist of Iranian-Kurdish origin who argues in Mass Challenge, his bestselling book, that the country has failed to integrate many newcomers: “Sweden was successful in abolishing the traditional class society, but politicians are now creating an ethnic underclass.”

Criticism of Sweden’s immigration policy has been the prerogative of the unsavoury far right for so long that Sanandaji’s book, soon to be published in English, was blacklisted by some public libraries, despite praise from experts.

“The attacks would have ended my career had I been a white ethnic Swede,” he said.

Paulina Neuding, an internationally acclaimed writer, was accused of xenophobia for linking the rise of anti-semitic and sexual crime to mass migration.

Neuding, 36, born to a Jewish family who migrated from Poland, said Sweden is experiencing a “sexual assault crisis”.

Statistics published last week revealed the percentage of women who reported being victims of sex crimes rose from 1.4% in 2012 to 4.1% in 2016. In 2014 a study on the geography of outdoor rape in Stockholm found two-thirds of the suspects were non-Swedish citizens.

“Our government declared itself the world’s first feminist government, yet they have quietly abandoned women,” Neuding said. “There is mounting evidence that large-scale migration of men from extremely patriarchal cultures is limiting women’s freedom.”
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by WildCat » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:03 am

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by corplinx » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:28 pm

Sweden's fine, it's all FakeNews(tm). I heard so on CNN.

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Giz » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:40 pm

The only no-go zone is calling somewhere a shithole

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by ed » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:15 pm

If you drop in a large number of people who are cultural aliens what else would you expect? What in the world are the political leaders thinking?
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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by RCC: Act II » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:45 pm

"Rosengard is one of the locations in Sweden described as “a geographically-defined area characterized by a low socio-economic status where criminals have an impact on the local community.” Authorities have long struggled to quell the violence associated with conflicts erupting between various gangs and ethnic groups in recent years."

In other words "a no-go zone"

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In other words, a bad neighborhood where some people don't feel safe. How novel.

Bad by Swedish standards, at that.

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by corplinx » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:52 pm

If you only know about London from the media, you'd think it's full of knife wielding terrorists. Having visited London this summer, I would have to say Islamification isn't working well since Book Of Mormon is playing on the West End and there are still tons of pubs.

I am hesitant to make a judgement about Sweden. On one hand, the richers living in their enclaves in Sweden won't see the issues in the ghettos. "what the heck are these people taking about, my neighborhood is just fine?"

Then you get right wing nationalist propaganda on the other hand.

So who do you believe? Is there an endemic issue Sweden is embarassed about and covering up? When bombs are going off, it's hard to say "nothing see here".

Skeeve's paywall copypasta points to another factor. The "soft bigotry of low expectations" where Sweden is becoming re-classed by setting a lower expected standard for non-natives.


These things are rarely one-dimensional and sometimes there are lessons to be learned from distrusting all the bastards and carefully distilling things.

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Re: News from Sweeden

Post by Grammatron » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:06 pm

https://www.apnews.com/438bb0ac98d04459 ... -say-where
BERLIN (AP) — German officials have been left speechless by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s comment that there are “no-go areas” in the country.

The notion there are places in Germany outsiders — including police — can’t visit has previously been dismissed by officials.

In an interview Monday with German broadcaster n-tv, Merkel said she favors a zero tolerance policy on crime and that includes preventing no-go areas, “that’s areas where nobody dares to go.”

She added: “There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them.”