Military action in North Korea: yes or no

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Rob Lister » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:26 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:What's with Lister?

A USS Pueblo irredentist? I didn't even know there were any of those.

At least Woodrow Wilson didn't wait 50 years to get pissy about the Lusitania. :p


It's ours. There is no statute of limitations of piracy or murder or torture.

I'm giving ed an in.

I'm willing to let them off easy. Return it by Friday, 29 December, or the rockets fly and turn it into dust.


Unfortunately there is a statute of limitations. An unwritten one, but you can't let something slide for 50 years and then say "ackchyually".

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What about the Alamo?

The statute of limitations is up to the pussy presiding in the white house.

We were busy. Nation states have long memories. I'm being asked for reparations. DocX repeatedly bitches about the comfort women in Korea and China and other cities. The south will rise to fall again! You can't give a Heil Hitler almost anywhere.

Fuck your statute. It ain't even fuckin' written (as you admit!!eleventy11)

I'm fucking serious.

Our boat. Either give it back or let's bomb the fuck out of it.

On a serious note. We should do it.

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby ed » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:33 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:What's with Lister?

A USS Pueblo irredentist? I didn't even know there were any of those.

At least Woodrow Wilson didn't wait 50 years to get pissy about the Lusitania. :p


It's ours. There is no statute of limitations of piracy or murder or torture.

I'm giving ed an in.

I'm willing to let them off easy. Return it by Friday, 29 December, or the rockets fly and turn it into dust.


Unfortunately there is a statute of limitations. An unwritten one, but you can't let something slide for 50 years and then say "ackchyually".

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Pueblo, still held by North Korea today, officially remains a commissioned vessel of the United States Navy.[


Take that, minion of the God Emperor of Nippon.

It's a US Navy ship and we goddamn want it god damn the fuck back right goddamn now, dammit. :x :x :x :x
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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Rob Lister » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:35 am

ed wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:What's with Lister?

A USS Pueblo irredentist? I didn't even know there were any of those.

At least Woodrow Wilson didn't wait 50 years to get pissy about the Lusitania. :p


It's ours. There is no statute of limitations of piracy or murder or torture.

I'm giving ed an in.

I'm willing to let them off easy. Return it by Friday, 29 December, or the rockets fly and turn it into dust.


Unfortunately there is a statute of limitations. An unwritten one, but you can't let something slide for 50 years and then say "ackchyually".

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Pueblo, still held by North Korea today, officially remains a commissioned vessel of the United States Navy.[


Take that, minion of the God Emperor of Nippon.

It's a US Navy ship and we goddamn want it god damn the fuck back right goddamn now, dammit. :x :x :x :x


quoted just to fucking quote and fuck naysayers.

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby ed » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:48 am

Rob Lister wrote:
ed wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:What's with Lister?

A USS Pueblo irredentist? I didn't even know there were any of those.

At least Woodrow Wilson didn't wait 50 years to get pissy about the Lusitania. :p


It's ours. There is no statute of limitations of piracy or murder or torture.

I'm giving ed an in.

I'm willing to let them off easy. Return it by Friday, 29 December, or the rockets fly and turn it into dust.


Unfortunately there is a statute of limitations. An unwritten one, but you can't let something slide for 50 years and then say "ackchyually".

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Pueblo, still held by North Korea today, officially remains a commissioned vessel of the United States Navy.[


Take that, minion of the God Emperor of Nippon.

It's a US Navy ship and we goddamn want it god damn the fuck back right goddamn now, dammit. :x :x :x :x


quoted just to fucking quote and fuck naysayers.


Damn right, dammit!!

And don't you let a damned frickerfracker say any different(ly). :x

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby RCC: Act II » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:30 pm

sparks wrote:General question for the board: If we strategically turned the norks into a sheet of glass, with or without provocation, what do you really thing the Chinks would do? What could they do without turning the entire Planet(tm) into a radioactive hell? They're Commie Chinks, but they're not stupid.

"Mister Secretary, we should advise Teh Orange Fuctard not recall those planes. We should advise him to make an all out first strike now......"


The Chinese are the least of our problems. Without it being really goddamn clear that it was absolutely necessary, It will be the biggest mass murder in history, and go down as a second Holocaust. Beyond the 25 million dead North Koreans, we will have any number of dead from aftereffects in other countries as the radiation cloud drifts around the most densely populated region of the planet.

The US will become isolated as the rest of the world demands those in charge be brought to justice for this crime, and pretty much every arrangement we have based on international cooperation will end until that happens and reparations are paid. This will cause global political and economic chaos that is impossible to predict, but almost certainly will be grim.

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby ed » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:21 pm

But if they attack first it's allright?
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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby RCC: Act II » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:50 pm

ed wrote:But if they attack first it's allright?


Hard to say. At least then it is arguable. The question is proportionality.


At some point, the problem isn't taking out NK's military capacity as it is collateral damage to neighboring nations. With a bunch of nukes there is also possibly change in global weather patterns and such. If everything gets fucked up by a massive US strike, people aren't going to sweat the details of blame, although they will be too busy dying from famine and radiation poisoning to really worry about it, I guess.

The collateral damage caused by any kind of large scale nuclear attack, both material and diplomatic, is probably worse than the worst case scenario of what happens if the responses uses conventional means and/or very limited nuclear use.

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby ed » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:16 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
ed wrote:But if they attack first it's allright?


Hard to say. At least then it is arguable. The question is proportionality.




Never understood that concept. Seems to me that you want to be sure they don't even wiggle.
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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby RCC: Act II » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:19 pm

ed wrote:
RCC: Act II wrote:
ed wrote:But if they attack first it's allright?


Hard to say. At least then it is arguable. The question is proportionality.




Never understood that concept. Seems to me that you want to be sure they don't even wiggle.


Depends on the goal. Makes sense if the only consideration is to defeat a foe, but if using that level of force costs you in other ways maybe not.

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby ed » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:20 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
ed wrote:
RCC: Act II wrote:
ed wrote:But if they attack first it's allright?


Hard to say. At least then it is arguable. The question is proportionality.




Never understood that concept. Seems to me that you want to be sure they don't even wiggle.


Depends on the goal. Makes sense if the only consideration is to defeat a foe, but if using that level of force costs you in other ways maybe not.


Does not make even a little sense. Why in the world would you leave a foe with any war making ability whatsoever?
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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby RCC: Act II » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:37 am

ed wrote:
RCC: Act II wrote:
ed wrote:
RCC: Act II wrote:
ed wrote:But if they attack first it's allright?


Hard to say. At least then it is arguable. The question is proportionality.




Never understood that concept. Seems to me that you want to be sure they don't even wiggle.


Depends on the goal. Makes sense if the only consideration is to defeat a foe, but if using that level of force costs you in other ways maybe not.


Does not make even a little sense. Why in the world would you leave a foe with any war making ability whatsoever?


You don't have to. The hypothetical was killing everyone with nukes.

Still, there is always a cost-benefit. If removing the last tiny but of war making ability means spewing radiation throughout Asia and ending any sort of international cooperation with the US? Maybe not.

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:56 am

Scenario: China makes Kim disappear. New guy is one of those old NK army officers, and he knows who is boss.

But only China can. The US cannot, and China will not if it looks too much like they are doing it for us.
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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby ed » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:09 am

I was waiting for someone to come up with the right answer.
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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Grammatron » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:33 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Scenario: China makes Kim disappear. New guy is one of those old NK army officers, and he knows who is boss.

But only China can. The US cannot, and China will not if it looks too much like they are doing it for us.


Who says Kim isn't that scenario right now?
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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby sparks » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:35 am

OK. No nukes then.


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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Witness » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:47 am

sparks wrote:Ninjas.

Or hashishins.


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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:16 am

North Korea is playing the South like a fiddle now, getting concessions for temporarily refraining from taking actions that they shouldn't be taking anyway. It's a protection racket. Nice Olympics you got there, it would be a real shame if something were to disrupt them.

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 am

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

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Re: Military action in North Korea: yes or no

Postby Rob Lister » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:49 am

Anaxagoras wrote:North Korea is playing the South like a fiddle now, getting concessions for temporarily refraining from taking actions that they shouldn't be taking anyway. It's a protection racket. Nice Olympics you got there, it would be a real shame if something were to disrupt them.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nort ... SKBN1EY0KE


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