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Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby Pyrrho » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:28 pm

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/ ... ighters-go

"We have repeatedly said in this room, the war is not over," Defense Secretary James Mattis noted last week at the Pentagon.

He said U.S. forces are still tracking down small pockets of ISIS fighters. In Iraq, the U.S. is still working closely with the Iraqi security forces, in hopes they can take full control of the country's territory.

"It may be a dozen [ISIS] guys who finally find each other. They get together and live in the one house. They start licking their wounds and thinking, 'What can we do?' " Mattis said. "What we want to do is drive this down to a point it can be handled by local authorities, by police and that sort of thing."
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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby Doctor X » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:35 pm

They go to 11?

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Postby Witness » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:01 am

Pyrrho wrote:
[…]"It may be a dozen [ISIS] guys who finally find each other. They get together and live in the one house. They start licking their wounds and thinking, 'What can we do?' " Mattis said. "What we want to do is drive this down to a point it can be handled by local authorities, by police and that sort of thing."
So a dozen guys isolated in a house are still too much for Iraqi security forces + police + army? :roll:

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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby gnome » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:03 am

They go the house.
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Postby Doctor X » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:11 am

I know, right, because Latin does not have a definite or indefinite article.

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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby WildCat » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:22 am

Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.
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Postby Doctor X » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:35 am

He could not, WC, because he was not a U.S. citizen!

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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby gnome » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:06 am

WildCat wrote:Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.


I thought it ended on May 1, 2003?
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Postby Doctor X » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:09 am

gnome wrote:
WildCat wrote:Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.


I thought it ended on May 1, 2003?


You're fooling yourself!

We're living in a dictatorship!

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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:16 pm

gnome wrote:
WildCat wrote:Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.


I thought it ended on May 1, 2003?


Ending the war is like quitting smoking.

We've done it lots of times. :|
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Postby WildCat » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:53 pm

gnome wrote:
WildCat wrote:Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.


I thought it ended on May 1, 2003?

I don't recall that, got a link?
Iraq war draws to a quiet close
By Liz Sly and Craig Whitlock December 15, 2011
BAGHDAD — The American war in Iraq came to an unspectacular end Thursday at a simple ceremony held on the edge of Baghdad’s international airport, not far from the highway along which U.S. troops first fought their way into the capital more than eight years ago.

There were speeches paying tribute to the fallen, promises that the United States would not abandon Iraq, vague declarations of “success” and warnings of challenges ahead. A brass band played, and the flag that had flown over the headquarters of the U.S. mission here was lowered for the last time and folded away.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:00 pm

It goes on forever because the real war aim is to turn them all into little Americans (working on the assumption that's what they really want).
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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby gnome » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:18 pm

WildCat wrote:
gnome wrote:
WildCat wrote:Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.


I thought it ended on May 1, 2003?

I don't recall that, got a link?


White House Archives: President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended

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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby WildCat » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:00 pm

gnome wrote:
WildCat wrote:
gnome wrote:
WildCat wrote:Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.


I thought it ended on May 1, 2003?

I don't recall that, got a link?


White House Archives: President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended

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Can you quote the part that said the war was over? Maybe my eyes are just bad.
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Postby gnome » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:06 pm

Certainly "The end of major combat operations" implies so.

If we're allowed to bring nuance into statements then I'd like similar leeway for any statement Obama made.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:13 pm

gnome wrote:Certainly "The end of major combat operations" implies so.

If we're allowed to bring nuance into statements then I'd like similar leeway for any statement Obama made.


Or that strictly speaking some particularly closely defined mission was accomplished?
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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby Mentat » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:27 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
gnome wrote:
WildCat wrote:Fake news, Obama declared the Iraq War over on December 15, 2011.


I thought it ended on May 1, 2003?


Ending the war is like quitting smoking.

We've done it lots of times. :|


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Re: Where did they go? What are they doing?

Postby gnome » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:28 pm

In actuality I'm inclined to go with the reports that someone hung the banner without proper authorization.

My point isn't that it really was a whopper, it's that if we're going to interpret it kindly I'd like to do the same for Obama.
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