Trump Derangement Syndrome

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Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by ed » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:48 am

I think I bumped into it yesterday.

I have a very sporadic correspondance with a pal from HS. We might email each other to see if the other is still alive every year or two. Well, I dropped my usual note to him. Nothing but "how are you still alive?"

Got this back:
Guess you’re pleased living under the Great Cheetolini.
Makes me glad I won’t be alive much longer.
We’re in a bizzarro-universe, Ed... up is down and Black is white.
But hey, your gun sales must be, uh, booming.
There were some intro pleasantries and a pleasant sign off but this part struck me as formalized virtue signaling.

So I replied. Don't care if he dislikes Trump; I dislike Trump. Generally I don't work him into missives with long lost pals though (isn't that odd?). Here is what I said
Gun sales are in the toilet. We need a democrat who will scare the bejesus out of gun owners as s/he pockets the dividends from the gun companies.

Trump is Trump, I am actually getting amusement from reading the rantings of people who suffer from TDS and still think Hillary won. Not that any of it makes any difference.
Again, pleasantries on both sides .

No word back. Re-reading it I guess I suggested he was ranting. Not my intent.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:00 pm

Aw we're just not used to 19th-century politics.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by ed » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:28 pm

yeah, that too.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:17 am

Scott Adams weighs in on Trump Derangement Syndrome...



At about 11 minutes in he asked: What would happen if Trump got impeached?
The answer is a bit scary...

The point about illegal immigration is the crime rate, and how irrelevant that fact will be. Image

Scott Adams: "Expect it to be debunked by noon"
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:39 am

Has anyone else noticed this?

What is 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' -- and do you have it? - From the Clinton News Network no less.

But wait, there's more...

THERAPISTS SEEING PATIENTS WITH TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME
Therapists around Washington, D.C., are noticing a sharp increase in patients describing symptoms of what has been called Trump Derangement Syndrome.

“There is a fear of the world ending,” said DC Counseling and Psychotherapy Center founder, Elisabeth LaMotte, referring to some of President Donald Trump’s decisions. “It’s very disorienting and constantly unsettling.”
Media's 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' endangering lives, president says
President Trump on Sunday escalated his rhetorical attacks on news outlets that have published critical stories about him and his administration.
...
"When the media -- driven insane by their Trump Derangement Syndrome -- reveals internal deliberations of our government, it truly puts the lives of many, not just journalists, at risk! Very unpatriotic!" Trump wrote on Twitter.
Rand Paul: Trump Derangement Syndrome Has Officially Come To The Senate
SEN. RAND PAUL (R-KY): Trump Derangement Syndrome has officially come to the Senate. The hatred for the President is so intense that partisans would rather risk war than give diplomacy a chance. Does anybody remember that Ronald Reagan sat down with Gorbachev and lessened the nuclear tensions? We need to still have those open talks.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:32 pm

...and Finally: Proposed Diagnostic Criteria for Trump Derangement Syndrome
Proposed Trump Derangement Syndrome DSM-IV™ Diagnosis & Criteria by funbobby51

309.81 Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)

Diagnostic Features

The essential feature of Trump Derangement Syndrome is the development of characteristic symptoms following the election of Donald Trump as president. (Criterion A1). The person's response to the event must involve intense fear, helplessness, or horror (or in children, the response must involve disorganized or agitated behavior) (Criterion A2).
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Specifiers

The following specifiers may be used to specify onset and duration of the symptoms of TDS:

Butthurt . This specifier should be used when the duration of symptoms is less than 3 months.
Snowflake. This specifier should be used when the symptoms last 3 months or longer.
With Delayed Onset. This specifier indicates that at least 6 months have passed between the traumatic event and the onset of the symptoms.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:33 pm

...and Finally: Proposed Diagnostic Criteria for Trump Derangement Syndrome
Proposed Trump Derangement Syndrome DSM-IV™ Diagnosis & Criteria by funbobby51

309.81 Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)

Diagnostic Features

The essential feature of Trump Derangement Syndrome is the development of characteristic symptoms following the election of Donald Trump as president. (Criterion A1). The person's response to the event must involve intense fear, helplessness, or horror (or in children, the response must involve disorganized or agitated behavior) (Criterion A2).
...
Specifiers

The following specifiers may be used to specify onset and duration of the symptoms of TDS:

Butthurt . This specifier should be used when the duration of symptoms is less than 3 months.
Snowflake. This specifier should be used when the symptoms last 3 months or longer.
With Delayed Onset. This specifier indicates that at least 6 months have passed between the traumatic event and the onset of the symptoms.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by corplinx » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:32 pm

Trump Derangement is why RUSSHUH is still a story despite this:
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They know it's bullshit, they're just deranged walking around shouting treason at clouds.

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:35 pm

corplinx wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:32 pm
They know it's bullshit ...
Yes.
... they're just deranged walking around shouting treason at clouds.
No.

I get the sense they still believe they can control public opinion.

Which may be delusional, but it's not TDS.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by corplinx » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:51 pm

Ohhhhhh....

So THEY are the treasonous ones then! The old projection technique.

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:59 pm

The constitutional definition of "treason" is quite clear, and lying propaganda is not covered by it.

Even "advocating violent overthrow" isn't "treason" though it might be illegal.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by RCC: Act II » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:59 pm
The constitutional definition of "treason" is quite clear, and lying propaganda is not covered by it.

Even "advocating violent overthrow" isn't "treason" though it might be illegal.
Treason is narrowly defined. Anyone bringing it up as to Trump is one of three things:

1) Wrong
2) Using it in a very broad colloquial sense
3) Strawmanning

It's irrelevant. If someone wanted to impeach or imprison Trump there is quite a bit of lower hanging fruit than literal Treason.

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Grammatron » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:32 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm
It's irrelevant. If someone wanted to impeach or imprison Trump there is quite a bit of lower hanging fruit than literal Treason.
Such as?

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by xouper » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:33 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm
Treason is narrowly defined. Anyone bringing it up as to Trump is one of three things:

1) Wrong
2) Using it in a very broad colloquial sense
3) Strawmanning
You left out some other possibilities:

4) Grandstanding
5) Suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome
6) All of the above

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:09 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm
3) Strawmanning
That one.
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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by RCC: Act II » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:38 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:32 pm
RCC: Act II wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm
It's irrelevant. If someone wanted to impeach or imprison Trump there is quite a bit of lower hanging fruit than literal Treason.
Such as?
Anything else? It would be easier to build a case that he kidnapped the Lindbergh baby than meeting the requirements for literal treason. Just no reason to aim that high.

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Grammatron » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:44 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:38 pm
Grammatron wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:32 pm
RCC: Act II wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm
It's irrelevant. If someone wanted to impeach or imprison Trump there is quite a bit of lower hanging fruit than literal Treason.
Such as?
Anything else? It would be easier to build a case that he kidnapped the Lindbergh baby than meeting the requirements for literal treason. Just no reason to aim that high.
If there are quite a bit of lower hanging fruits that will lead to imprisonment of Trump I just wanted to know what those fruits are.

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by RCC: Act II » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:11 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:44 pm
RCC: Act II wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:38 pm
Grammatron wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:32 pm
RCC: Act II wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:09 pm
It's irrelevant. If someone wanted to impeach or imprison Trump there is quite a bit of lower hanging fruit than literal Treason.
Such as?
Anything else? It would be easier to build a case that he kidnapped the Lindbergh baby than meeting the requirements for literal treason. Just no reason to aim that high.
If there are quite a bit of lower hanging fruits that will lead to imprisonment of Trump I just wanted to know what those fruits are.
Like I said, if I were building a case to impeach or imprison Trump, Treason would be at the end of both. For impeachment, the enolument clause would be the best place to start as to more technical grounds rather than political. For imprisonment, obstruction.

Those strike me as the lowest hanging fruits.

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by xouper » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:25 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:11 pm
. . . For impeachment, the enolument clause would be the best place to start as to more technical grounds rather than political. For imprisonment, obstruction.
Please explain your case against Trump on those two allegations.

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Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Post by Grammatron » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:54 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:11 pm
Like I said, if I were building a case to impeach or imprison Trump, Treason would be at the end of both. For impeachment, the enolument clause would be the best place to start as to more technical grounds rather than political. For imprisonment, obstruction.

Those strike me as the lowest hanging fruits.
There's already an emolument working its way through courts