Joe Arpaio: The Crappy Sequel

[Nyarlathotep]

Someone on this board, I think it was Corplinx but I am not 100% sure, said that the bright spot in the 2016 election is that the world has finally seen the last of Joe Arpaio.

Well, rather like a shitty movie getting a shittier sequel, He's back and intends to inflict his stupidity on the whole country, not just one county in Arizona. He's running for a senate seat.

Given that Arizona is a pretty red state, he stands a pretty good chance of winning.

Yay. Things just get better and better.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Hate to sound like a lefty conspiracy monger, but it occurs to me that maybe Trump pardoned him so he could do this.

[gnome]

That doesn't really require a conspiracy. Nothing to cover up, no hidden motives.
Unless we're supposing Joe had some leverage on Trump that got him this. THAT would be a conspiracy theory.

[Nyarlathotep]

Yeah, "President encourages well known person with similar views to his own to run for Congress when his party holds a very slim majority" isn't much of a conspiracy theory, even if the president pardoned him first.

[RCC: Act II]

Arizona isn't quite red enough for this to be more likely than not. Anything can happen, but I suspect his main function were he to win the primary will be to drive up turnout for Dems by providing them a Moore-like nightmare scenario to rally around.

[ed]

Arizona isn't quite red enough for this to be more likely than not. Anything can happen, but I suspect his main function were he to win the primary will be to drive up turnout for Dems by providing them a Moore-like nightmare scenario to rally around.

So you are saying that Trump is conspiring with the Democrats to elect a Democrat?

[RCC: Act II]

Arizona isn't quite red enough for this to be more likely than not. Anything can happen, but I suspect his main function were he to win the primary will be to drive up turnout for Dems by providing them a Moore-like nightmare scenario to rally around.

So you are saying that Trump is conspiring with the Democrats to elect a Democrat?

The problem with the conspiracy theory is that Arpario wouldn't need a pardon to run. While state laws vary, a criminal conviction is not a bar from a Federal office.

[gnome]

I don't know if we can count on an effect similar to Moore, at least if they lean on the item he was pardoned for. He was pardoned for doing what most of his voters wanted him to, they would not be scandalized by it.

[ed]

Arizona isn't quite red enough for this to be more likely than not. Anything can happen, but I suspect his main function were he to win the primary will be to drive up turnout for Dems by providing them a Moore-like nightmare scenario to rally around.

So you are saying that Trump is conspiring with the Democrats to elect a Democrat?

The problem with the conspiracy theory is that Arpario wouldn't need a pardon to run. While state laws vary, a criminal conviction is not a bar from a Federal office.

No no no .... the pardon was simply a marketing ploy. Like increasing the package size without increase the amount of product.

-Pardon Ariapo
-Free publicity that he never would have had
-Close alignment to Trump
-Democrats ... well, we know how they respond to confrontation


Come out to vote and shake their tiny little fists.

[ed]

Think I like this one better.

[Skeeve]

Arizona isn't quite red enough for this to be more likely than not. Anything can happen, but I suspect his main function were he to win the primary will be to drive up turnout for Dems by providing them a Moore-like nightmare scenario to rally around.

Prediction: Gloria Allred will represent some woman
who will crawl out of the woodwork
claim something #metoo-worthy involving him happened x years ago ...



What, too soon?

[RCC: Act II]

I don't know if we can count on an effect similar to Moore, at least if they lean on the item he was pardoned for. He was pardoned for doing what most of his voters wanted him to, they would not be scandalized by it.

They will be now. Arizona isn't remotely as red as Alabama, so the effect can be way smaller. He lost re-election in 2016 by about ten points in a county that Trump won, so it seems people are already tired of his act.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Unless we're supposing Joe had some leverage on Trump that got him this.

The way it had to happen.

Welcome to the fold fellow left wing nutter.

[gnome]

I don't know if we can count on an effect similar to Moore, at least if they lean on the item he was pardoned for. He was pardoned for doing what most of his voters wanted him to, they would not be scandalized by it.

They will be now. Arizona isn't remotely as red as Alabama, so the effect can be way smaller. He lost re-election in 2016 by about ten points in a county that Trump won, so it seems people are already tired of his act.

Didn't even know that!

[Nyarlathotep]

I suppose, yeah, Arizona isn't so red that its a done deal.

But it's red enough that he isn't some "Vermin Supreme" level fringe/joke candidate with no real shot at it either. He has a real chance at winning, even if it isn't guaranteed. Enough of a shot to be worth taking seriously anyhoo.

[Anaxagoras]

He was elected or re-elected Sheriff of Maricopa County 7 times until 2016 and then he lost by 10 points. He's also 85 years old (he'll be 86 on election day), which is an issue in itself.

If he is the nominee I think Democrats win as long as they don't nominate a complete disaster of a candidate of their own.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... tion-fight

Arpaio's exit comes after he rose to fame for his reputation as the toughest sheriff in America. His hard-line views on immigration helped him form an alliance with President-elect Donald Trump and boost fundraising.

But among many of his constituents, Arpaio's legal troubles were seen as an expensive distraction. In September, Maricopa County agreed to pay $4.5 million in legal fees to the plaintiffs in the case, which dates from 2007. That payment was added to some $10.4 million that had already been paid, as AZ Central reported.

No, I think Arizonans are probably tired of Joe Arpaio finally.

[corplinx]

FUCK

[WildCat]

No matter how red AZ is, I don't see an 85 year old being elected to the Senate while not an incumbent.

[Doctor X]

That and what voter that voted against him as sheriff would vote for him as senator?

--J.D.

[Nyarlathotep]

That and what voter that voted against him as sheriff would vote for him as senator?

--J.D.

Different pool of people. Statewide vs single county.

And his fellow Republicans aren’t going to vote for a Dem. Not in any meaningful numbers. So it’s only really a question of how many Republicans stay home vs how many Dems come out just to vote against him