'PEOPLE WILL GO TO JAIL'...

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Re: 'PEOPLE WILL GO TO JAIL'...

Postby corplinx » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:55 pm

Carter Page had sued for defamation over the dossier. The Nunes release helps him. He can show actual damages.

Manafort is suing the DOJ.

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Re: 'PEOPLE WILL GO TO JAIL'...

Postby ed » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:02 pm

And these are people with clout who can get attention.

Now: what exactly are the Feds capable of when they are not under scrutiny?

Frankly, I don't particularly give a shit about any of these low lives individually (except for the expected schadenfreude) but I very much care about what the behavior of these various policing agencies means for the rest of us. To nod in bovine agreement with the contention that "The FBI is a professional organization that never blah blah blah" is the problem. The FBI had been for most of it's life a political organization whose activities have never been fully explored. This virginal pose is relatively new.

These fuckers lie. They lie to congress, they lie to us. We should be afraid.
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Postby Doctor X » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:00 pm

ブTHTHエ *Changes Keyboard* BUT THE NFL JSUT ADMITS PHILLY WAS ILLEGAL FORMATION ON TD!!1!!!1!

#PATSROBBED

Which means Gene Steratoredekurt NEEDS TO GO TO GAOL!








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Re: 'PEOPLE WILL GO TO JAIL'...

Postby ed » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:23 pm

Doctor X wrote:ブTHTHエ *Changes Keyboard* BUT THE NFL JSUT ADMITS PHILLY WAS ILLEGAL FORMATION ON TD!!1!!!1!

#PATSROBBED

Which means Gene Steratoredekurt NEEDS TO GO TO GAOL!


What?

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:shock: :shock: :shock: ^ This

Clearly, they have installed a keylogger on Doc's machine. A key logger developed by the lowest bidder that has the habit of replacing the characters that are actually entered. This is proof, as if any were needed, that we should be afraid.
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Postby RCC: Act II » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:01 pm

ed wrote:These fuckers lie. They lie to congress, they lie to us. We should be afraid.


Are you talking about the investigators or the people being investigated?

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Postby ed » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:55 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
ed wrote:These fuckers lie. They lie to congress, they lie to us. We should be afraid.


Are you talking about the investigators or the people being investigated?


I am talking about the principles of federal policing/intelligence agencies.
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Postby corplinx » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:56 pm

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Postby Doctor X » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:57 pm

Explains why 2+2=5.

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Postby Doctor X » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:53 pm

Meanwhile, a Lawsplainer on the "Fruits of the Poisonous Tree," which, apparently, has been evoked with respect to the Mueller investigation and the coming Pony Apocalypse.

Wibble.

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Re: 'PEOPLE WILL GO TO JAIL'...

Postby corplinx » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:57 am

I wasn't aware people were considering this outside of the mockery of "justice" that was the Manafort raid/arrest/prosecution.

Ken's analysis is spot on with the Flynn/etc stuff related to the wiretaps (THAT DIDNT HAPPEN).

The only thing I would humbly suggest as no legal expert, is that the note that the source was partisan was salted with corroboration of a Yahoo news article that seemed to have been leaked just to use as corroboration in order to secure the FISA warrant.

They manufactured their own "its partisan, but it's being reported here as well".

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Postby shuize » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:34 am

So, in the last minutes on her last day on the job, within minutes of Trump's inauguration, Susan Rice made a point of sending an email to herself documenting a meeting about Obama's instructions on Russiagate. She told herself in her email to herself that Obama instructed them to play it "by the book." Just in case she forgot, she used the phrase "by the book" twice in the same paragraph. She also noted to herself that Obama told them when dealing with the incoming team, they would have to "ascertain if there is any reason we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia."

Nevermind the large redacted section immediately following the "any reason we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia," the timing of the message is totally not suspicious and not to be read as a giant CYA memo dropped into the official records at the very last minute. Less trusting individuals, however, have suggested that among such information they might have been a tad reluctant to share with the incoming team would include how the FBI and Team Clinton walked hand in hand down to the FISA court with team Obama's blessing to peddle their garbage warrant application to spy on a rival candidate and his staff during a presidential election.

Just for fun, I'm imagining how apeshit the MSM would go if the roles were reversed and Trump's FBI used an application it knew was garbage to a get FISA warrant to spy on the next Democratic presidential candidate.

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Re: 'PEOPLE WILL GO TO JAIL'...

Postby ed » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:41 am

Collusion?
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Postby shuize » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:11 pm

ed wrote:Collusion?

I'm not sure how it could be. Rice's email to herself says "Susan Rice did not collude."

Susan Rice: "Note to self: Remember to write last minute email to self to remind self that did I not collude."
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Postby ed » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:14 pm

I am amazed that there is virtually no treatment of this stuff in the MSM, nothing actually.
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Re: 'PEOPLE WILL GO TO JAIL'...

Postby ed » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:49 pm

To review. Please answer with SHORT declarative sentences. One word answers are acceptable.

1) Is there evidence that Russia attempted to influence the last election?
2) if so, is there evidence that they changed any votes?
3) is there any evidence that anyone in Trumps campaign worked with the Russians?

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4) Did any countries other than Russia attempt to influence the last election?
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Postby gnome » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:57 pm

1 - Yes
2 - No, but can there be any direct evidence if a propaganda campaign changed someone's mind?

Really 3 is the only important question. 4 is interesting though.
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Postby WildCat » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:10 pm

ed wrote:I am amazed that there is virtually no treatment of this stuff in the MSM, nothing actually.

The Democratic Party dies in the light Ed, and that's unacceptable.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:46 pm

The latest from Wikileaks:

https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/st ... 88?lang=en

Synopsis: Mueller Delivered Uranium Sample to Russians.
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Postby gnome » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:49 pm

What uranium sample and why? I'm not sure what conclusion we're supposed to draw from this.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:51 pm

gnome wrote:What uranium sample and why? I'm not sure what conclusion we're supposed to draw from this.


Conclusions are for suckers. :BigGrin3:
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