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Re: Anglo-American..... you know what he meant....

Post by WildCat » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:19 pm

And then he scurries off, without supporting a single one of his claims. Sad.
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Post by Doctor X » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:25 pm

Searching for Sessions' actual views and actions yields a seeming cauldron of contradiction. Though from the ultra-conservative Trump shill The New York Times gives a nice summary:
Aiding Transgender Case, Sessions Defies His Image on Civil Rights
By MATT APUZZOOCT. 15, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department has dispatched an experienced federal hate crimes lawyer to Iowa to help prosecute a man charged with murdering a transgender high school student last year, a highly unusual move that officials said was personally initiated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

In taking the step, Mr. Sessions, a staunch conservative, is sending a signal that he has made a priority of fighting violence against transgender people individually, even as he has rolled back legal protections for them collectively.

The Justice Department rarely assigns its lawyers to serve as local prosecutors, and only in cases in which they can provide expertise in areas that the federal government views as significant. By doing so in this instance, Mr. Sessions put the weight of the government behind a small-city murder case with overtones of gender identity and sexuality.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Nine months into his tenure as the nation’s top law enforcement official, the nuances of Mr. Sessions’s civil rights policy are coming into focus. As a senator from Alabama, Mr. Sessions had spoken out against same-sex marriage and voted against expanding federal hate crimes laws to protect transgender people, and civil rights groups were livid when President Trump nominated him to be attorney general. They predicted he would reverse policies on discrimination, police abuses and other areas.

In many ways, Mr. Sessions has fulfilled those predictions. He declared that the Justice Department no longer considered gay or transgender people to be protected from workplace discrimination and reversed a policy encouraging schools to let transgender students use bathrooms that fit their gender identities. He abandoned objections to voter identification requirements in Texas and signaled that he would not try to force federal oversight on police departments suspected of abuses.

But he has also brought several hate crime cases, including one against a man accused of burning a mosque. He condemned white supremacist violence in Charlottesville, Va., far more forcefully than the president. And he has vowed tough action against hate crimes, speaking aggressively in ways that few of his most ardent opponents could have predicted. He has tied enforcement of those crimes to his tough stance against violence, a cornerstone of his policies as attorney general.

“Hate crimes are violent crimes,” Mr. Sessions said in a speech in June. He has publicly applauded aggressive hate crime prosecutions, including one in which a Mississippi man received a 49-year prison sentence in the death of a transgender woman. That case was brought in the final weeks of the Obama administration. “No person should have to fear being violently attacked because of who they are, what they believe, or how they worship,” Mr. Sessions said.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Critics and supporters agree that Mr. Sessions is more likely to pursue civil rights matters in individual cases, rather than trying to address larger, systemic issues, as the Obama administration did. He has promised to “punish any police conduct that violates civil rights,” for example, but is skeptical of efforts to force department-wide overhauls. He supports prosecuting those who commit violence against transgender victims but opposes reading the law in a way that broadly extends discrimination protection for transgender people.

“He has no problem with discrimination against L.G.B.T.Q. people in jobs, education and other facets of life, but will lean forward in this one case where a transgender individual has been killed,” said Vanita Gupta, the president of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and the head of the Justice Department’s civil rights division in the Obama administration. “While it is of course good that D.O.J. is aggressively pursuing this case, it would behoove Sessions to connect the dots between his policies that promote discrimination and hate that can result in death.”

In March, six House members wrote Mr. Sessions and implored him to investigate a spate of killings of transgender black women. The letter got his attention, and he summoned one of his top civil rights prosecutors to a meeting about it.

Federal law — the one Mr. Sessions opposed in the Senate — makes it a crime to attack someone based on gender identity. Typically, civil rights prosecutors monitor news reports and other public information, looking for signs of a hate crime that would give them reason to investigate.

“That may not be good enough,” Mr. Sessions said, according to an official in attendance.

He ordered civil rights prosecutors and the F.B.I. to review each of the seven cases lawmakers had asked about and to contact local authorities to offer assistance. “A lot of concerns and questions were out there about how this was occurring and what we were doing about it,” Mr. Sessions recalled in his June speech.

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Re: Anglo-American..... you know what he meant....

Post by Giz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:30 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:I'll be back after lent. Probably.
Hmm, "lent" is a germanic root word for spring. Which may sound innocuous but when you consider RCC has a history of talking about offensive matters, this is clearly a dog whistle shout out to the German spring offensives of 1918. And who fought in those? Nazis-to-be.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:59 pm

Giving up SC for Lent.

Now THAT'S a penance. :notsure:
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:01 pm

I think that Session is most likely a racist, but that doesn't mean everything he says is proof of it.

Also, less of a racist than the Democrats officially think every non-Democrat is.
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Post by Giz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:10 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:I think that Session is most likely a racist, but that doesn't mean everything he says is proof of it.
This is reasonable. But out of step with the witch hunting hysteria of this age.

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Post by ed » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:25 pm

Do you think that jewish liberals actually like black folks?
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Post by corplinx » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:55 pm

Well you see, Sessions comes from the Anglo-American tradition of protecting rich white aristocrats.

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Post by Giz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:00 pm

If your name is Beauregard, by definition you're held in ill regard.

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Post by Doctor X » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:26 pm

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:53 pm

ed wrote:Do you think that jewish liberals actually like black folks?
It varies quite a bit actually.

Also, capital J please.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
ed wrote:Do you think that jewish liberals actually like black folks?
It varies quite a bit actually.

Also, capital J please.
How do you figure? Historically Jewish liberals have been instrumental in civil right movement (a fact that seems to fade with time).

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Post by ed » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:25 pm

I grew up in ny and went to school and college with mass quantities of ny jewish liberals. Far more than christians since they all went to parochial schools. In fact, i feel that my acculturation is eastern european jewish.

From this lofty pertch i make my observation. And abdul can only counter with "it varies ".
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:36 pm

Grammatron wrote:How do you figure? Historically Jewish liberals have been instrumental in civil right movement (a fact that seems to fade with time).
So they have.

However I speak from personal experience of people who are not politicians.

It varies from people who have married blacks to those who would rather avoid them.

Of course there's the No True Liberal TM thing.
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Post by Grammatron » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:39 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Grammatron wrote:How do you figure? Historically Jewish liberals have been instrumental in civil right movement (a fact that seems to fade with time).
So they have.

However I speak from personal experience of people who are not politicians.

It varies from people who have married blacks to those who would rather avoid them.

Of course there's the No True Liberal TM thing.
I guess Los Angeles has truer Jewish liberal than Chicago

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:41 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Grammatron wrote:How do you figure? Historically Jewish liberals have been instrumental in civil right movement (a fact that seems to fade with time).
So they have.

However I speak from personal experience of people who are not politicians.

It varies from people who have married blacks to those who would rather avoid them.

Of course there's the No True Liberal TM thing.
It's almost like Jewish people are individuals rather than a monolith.

Funny how that only applies to certain groups
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Post by Grammatron » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:43 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
It's almost like Jewish people are individuals rather than a monolith.

Funny how that only applies to certain groups
That a legit point, but if I may offer a retort: The kind of person who would label themselves as a "Jewish Liberal" would tend to be closer to monolithic than an individual.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:46 pm

Grammatron wrote:I guess Los Angeles has truer Jewish liberal than Chicago
New York actually.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Grammatron wrote:I guess Los Angeles has truer Jewish liberal than Chicago
New York actually.
Well duh, they can make a bagel there.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:48 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:It's almost like Jewish people are individuals rather than a monolith.

Funny how that only applies to certain groups
No no no no.

We all take orders from Jew Central.

When we seem to disagree it's because we're THAT sneaky. :BigGrin3:
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