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Stormy Daniels

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:35 am

So Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen paid off Stormy Daniels with his own money. I wish my lawyer was so good to me.

Trump's lawyer paid $130,000 of own money to porn star

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's personal lawyer said Tuesday that he paid $130,000 of his own money to a porn star who allegedly had a sexual encounter with the President before his time in office.
"In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford," Michael Cohen said in a statement. "Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly."
Just weeks before the 2016 election, Cohen reportedly created a private LLC to pay Clifford, otherwise known as Stormy Daniels, following an alleged July 2006 encounter with Trump, The Wall Street Journal reported in January.
The New York Times first reported that Cohen had said he made the payment himself.
Following initial reports last month that Cohen had made the payment, he said in a statement that Trump "vehemently denies" any encounter between the two.


So I guess his official explanation is that there was never "any encounter" but then why the payment? Was she blackmailing Trump with false accusations? If so, he paid off an extortionist.

In what permutation of the admitted facts is this not some sort of scandal?
Either they ("they"?) paid hush money to an extortionist or Trump had an affair with a porn star.
When asked why he made the payment, Cohen told CNN: "Just because something isn't true doesn't mean that it can't cause you harm or damage. I will always protect Mr. Trump."

It "isn't true" but it could have caused "harm or damage" to Mr. Trump so he paid her with his own money to protect Mr. Trump without any expectation of direct or indirect reimbursement. Got it?
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Grammatron » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:53 am

Well he wouldn't want Trump's sterling reputation to get tarnished.
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:14 pm

Does she own a blue dress?
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:28 pm

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:08 pm

Maybe, just maybe, Cohen was buying something other than (or in addition to) silence about Trump.
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:31 pm

Oh, a couple of silicone headrests, maybe?
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Mentat » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:03 pm

The administration caught in yet another lie. Who saw that one coming.
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Anaxagoras » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:36 pm

About that story that the National Enquirer buried:

'New Yorker' says handwritten note by former Playmate details affair with Trump

A former Playmate, who says she has been emboldened by the #MeToo movement and declining health, has confirmed to The New Yorker that she authored an eight-page, hand-written document about her alleged affair with Donald Trump that the magazine said was quietly buried by the National Enquirer after buying exclusive rights to it.

The deal, which netted Karen McDougal $82,500, has prevented her from discussing the alleged relationship with Trump.

McDougal, who was judged runner-up for "Playmate of the '90s," allegedly met Trump in 2006 at the Playboy mansion after Trump had been married to Slovenian model Melania Knauss for less than two years.

She spoke to writer Ronan Farrow, who has written recently about sexual abuse in Hollywood, but was circumspect about details regarding Trump. She acknowledged, however, that she wrote the account of the alleged affair, which Farrow said he obtained from John Crawford, a friend of McDougal's.

The Wall Street Journal, four days before the 2016 presidential election, reported that American Media Inc., the publisher of the National Enquirer, had paid $150,000 for exclusive rights to McDougal’s story, which it never ran. Buying the rights to a story in order to bury it is a practice that many in the tabloid industry call “catch and kill.”

David Pecker, CEO and chairman of A.M.I., has described Trump as a personal friend.

McDougal, choosing her words carefully, said the emergence of the #MeToo movement and health problems, which she blames on breast implant removal last year, has prompted her to be more conflicted about the moral compromises of silence, The New Yorker says.
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Anaxagoras » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:50 am

I know this is all a silly distraction, but it's back in the news.

So, her lawyer is claiming that the contract is invalid because Trump didn't sign the contract. That is a fail. I'm not even a lawyer, but contracts don't necessarily even have to be written down to be legally binding, much less signed. Those are just conventions, not legal requirements. She took the money, she cashed the check. So I think this is a losing argument. Besides, at this point does anyone really doubt what happened? If there was no relationship, then what exactly was she being paid for?

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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Witness » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:58 am

Another win!

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Postby Pyrrho » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:14 am

I tell ya, though, I am getting tired of seeing her photo in every damn news feed.
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Postby Doctor X » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:39 pm

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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby corplinx » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:49 pm

What kind of world do we live in where a man can't have a fling with a professional sex worker while his wife is recovering from child birthing without it being a presidential scandal.

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:58 pm

corplinx wrote:What kind of world do we live in where a man can't have a fling with a professional sex worker while his wife is recovering from child birthing without it being a presidential scandal.


All we know is there was an out of court settlement.

Could have been some sort of business dispute about real estate. :laugher:
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Doctor X » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:36 am

corplinx wrote:What kind of world do we live in where a man can't have a fling with a professional sex worker while his wife is recovering from child birthing without it being a presidential scandal.


Thanks Clinton!

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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Anaxagoras » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:22 pm

Honestly though, legally what she's doing seems very dubious to me. If she ends up getting her pants sued off by Trump, who has never been particularly shy about suing people, I'm not going to be especially sad for her. She acted basically as a blackmailer and she got her payoff. Now she wants more. Too bad. She get her hush money. Probably should have left well enough alone. According to the contract there's like a million dollar penalty per instance if she breaks it. She's gambling that Trump won't sue her to enforce the contract.
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:41 pm

OK folks, here's The Narrative.

Stormy Daniels (in the words of Muhammad Ali) doesn't want to end up like Joe Louis.

So while she still rich and before her looks fade, she's getting into real estate. A sleazy real estate deal, and Stormy Daniels being naive about real estate, etc. So she gets into some messy deal typical of the Trump organization that isn't illegal exactly, but would look bad if a sitting president had been involved before he was president.

That's the ticket. :BigGrin3:
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Anaxagoras » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:11 am

As I stated earlier, Trump is a creep but that doesn't justify what she is doing. Frankly, I don't think much of the people who are cheering her on just because they hate Trump. I think she's getting bad legal advice, being greedy, reneging on a contract, and engaging in blackmail. If she ends up getting her thong panties sued off, it'll be World's Smallest Violin time as far as I'm concerned.

Trump’s lawyers say Stormy Daniels owes him $20 million

IANAL or a judge, but a contract is a contract and she broke it. She knew or should have known what she was signing. She had the advice of counsel. You want to change your mind later because you no longer like the terms of the contract? Tough shit.

President Donald Trump is finally weighing in on the Stormy Daniels saga. His lawyers claimed in court papers on Friday that the adult film actress — who allegedly had an affair with him beginning in 2006 — has violated a confidentiality agreement at least 20 times, opening her up to damages of $20 million. An attorney for Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, slammed the president’s team for pursuing such an enormous amount from a private citizen over “bogus” damages in a maneuver that is “likely unprecedented in our history.”

President Trump’s lawyers filed two motions on Friday in the United States District Court in California, where Daniels sued to get out of a nondisclosure agreement to stay quiet about her affair with Trump ahead of the election. One of the motions is filed on Trump’s behalf and mentions him directly. “Mr. Trump intends to pursue his rights to the fullest extent of the law,” it reads. Until now, Trump has tried to keep his distance from the Daniels saga, instead leaving it to his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to deal with. Cohen has claimed he paid Daniels $130,000 with his own personal money.

But as the story continues to move closer to Trump’s orbit, Trump himself has had no choice but to get involved. The Wall Street Journal reported that a Trump Organization attorney was listed on confidential arbitration documents that included the restraining order against Daniels. And Daniels is likely to appear on 60 Minutes next Sunday.


Her lawyer's response: "Trump is a bully. Boo-hoo-hoo!" Tough shit. (The old argument from misery)



Yeah, and your client is a greedy extortionist. She shouldn't have taken the hush money to begin with.
I think Trump will sue, if necessary, to enforce the contract. We already know pretty much what happened.
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby Pyrrho » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:10 am

Selling lots of clickbait ads, though. Each of them should demand a percentage.
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Re: Stormy Daniels

Postby gnome » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:51 pm

I have a guess that she figures the story is worth more than Trump can collect from her. I don't know if it will turn out that way.

From a political standpoint, I'm waiting for the same people who claimed Clinton's affair made him "unfit" to weigh in, but I'm not holding my breath. They deserve to have their nose tweaked for it, though--and if it cuts down on bullshit moralizing because this embarrases them as hypocrites, all the better.

Of course, the day a political hypocrite is embarrassed by it is probably the day we all get our ponies.
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