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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Doctor X » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:04 am

Okay, you forced me into it . . . the fail that is Christopher Hunter Radford William Davis Ashida Kim:



the uploader thinks this is serious.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by ed » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:26 am

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"The Chi?" I hear penicillin will clear that right up
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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:28 am

Doctor X wrote:Okay, you forced me into it . . . the fail that is Christopher Hunter Radford William Davis Ashida Kim:



the uploader thinks this is serious.

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That was hilarious in a sad sort of way
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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Doctor X » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:57 am

Him and the FAIL he stole from, hairdresser John Keehan Count Dante are worth the read.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:54 am

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Grammatron » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:58 am

Rob Lister wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:Action hero Donald Trump totally would have gone in there, if he had been there. :roll:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... urn-recess
He also would have totally dropped the gunman with a sweet spin kick, like he learned in Karate class.
Yep. If only he had gone to Vietnam, we'd of won.
USA did win.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Doctor X » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:49 am

IT WAS A TIE!!!!1!!!!11!!!

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Pyrrho » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:16 am

Trump merely said what every ignorant yahoo thinks...that if THEY were there THEY would have done thus and so and saved lives, etc.

Dunning-Kruger, Walter Mitty, etc.

Fortunately, the White House has clarified.

WHATEVER
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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Doctor X » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:51 am

The sad reality is it highlights the failure of the Florida sheriff's office.

Trump, Her Turn Hillary, Arnold, Your Mom, et cetera are neither trained to handle such nor are they employed to. "We" can claim whatever we want. "They" can imagine what they want.

Has Trump ever fired a gun? Let alone received the training to use one? And I can destroy any bar provided you give me a twisty and an erasable pen.

"Permanent" ink . . . well . . . that would just not be fair, now would it?

The Florida Broward sheriff's office, however, have no excuse. They, and This Guy, hired themselves out to serve this position. If I advertise myself as a death-penalty experienced defense attorney . . . do I get to blame others when I wet my pants in front of the judge because I do not know what "Hear Ye" means?

Fuck them.

They fucked up.

They know they fucked up.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by shuize » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:05 pm

Cops have a tough job. But that's the job. If you volunteer for the position, the law enforcement training, accept the uniform and gun, then suck the government tit for 20 years on a cushy SRO gig, you damn well better do better than cowering in a stairwell or hiding behind your police cruiser while some lone jackass murders the students you've sworn to protect. Fuck that guy. And fuck the other Broward County Sheriff deputies who hid behind their cars. They should take all their pensions.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by corplinx » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:44 pm

Image

The march of the political props goes on. One of the reasons we can't have a real gun debate is because the paranoid right wingers are often times correct. The picture I gave is a bit of a stretch, since Soros gives money to everyone.

The democrats propose banning semi autos.
The NRA starts at No.
And the "movements" are largely astroturf.

Maybe we deserve this clusterfuck for not pointing out the same-old same-old shit.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by gnome » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:25 pm

Doctor X wrote:IT WAS A TIE!!!!1!!!!11!!!

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by WildCat » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:29 pm

corplinx wrote:The NRA starts at No.
Isn't starting at "no" a reasonable position at some point? Because the "compromise" in this goes only in one direction. At some point we've compromised enough. It's no secret that Democrats want bans, they see the SCOTUS decisions as just a temporary roadblock in their efforts to ban all handguns and will change that if they get to appoint replacements for the conservative justices. They're banning semi-autos all over the country, in fact today there will be a vote to ban semi-auto rifles and all magazines over 10 rounds (handgun and rifle) in Illinois and I have no idea what the outcome will be. And it will make it a felony to be caught in possession of one. They are also pushing a "dealer licensing" bill pushed as "common sense" but in reality is going to force 90% of FFLs out of business here. 100% in cook County will be out of business because the county shriff has ultimate power to deny a license and doesn' have to give a reason.

We already have the FOID card and waiting periuods. There is no such thing as a "gun show loophole" in Illinois. Still they come back for more.

And they refuse to sentence violent gun offenders to lengthy prison terms, but they sure want to go after those who are no threat to anyone and make them felons for having the 13 round magazine that came with their pistol.

Don't you think "no" is the only rational response at some point?
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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by gnome » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:36 pm

I think it would be, if they didn't come off as so opposed to the whole idea of being subject to any measures at all. They profess to reject the concept entirely--at least as clearly as you say Democrats want blanket bans.
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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by WildCat » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:38 pm

gnome wrote:I think it would be, if they didn't come off as so opposed to the whole idea of being subject to any measures at all. They profess to reject the concept entirely--at least as clearly as you say Democrats want blanket bans.
I've actually lived through a Democrat blanket ban on handguns. I'm not speculating that's what they want, nor am I imagining what the bill they're trying to pass today does.
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Post by gnome » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:44 pm

I'm not challenging you on that right now. I'm thinking there are very few organizations with any power adopting a sane position.
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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Doctor X » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:58 pm

Solutions and counter-proposals are not merely pointing at the other side and declaring it sucks.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by Grammatron » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:11 pm

gnome wrote:I think it would be, if they didn't come off as so opposed to the whole idea of being subject to any measures at all. They profess to reject the concept entirely--at least as clearly as you say Democrats want blanket bans.
To me it seems NRA's position isn't that far off from ed's or Wildcat's: Enforce the laws on the books before introducing any new measures.

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Re: Florida School Shooting

Post by ed » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:08 pm

gnome wrote:I think it would be, if they didn't come off as so opposed to the whole idea of being subject to any measures at all. They profess to reject the concept entirely--at least as clearly as you say Democrats want blanket bans.
Excuse me.

There are over 25,000 laws concerning firearms in this country. The Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 is the primary law that governs sales and use of firearms across all states. Remember also that BATF issues "rules" that have the force of law and such things cover EVERYTHING.

As I have painfully described, enforcement of Federal Law in Chicago would end the gun violence. Any law that does will, necessarily, be racist cuz guess what? Its a black problem.

When you say "any measures" please weigh that against the thousands of measures that are already out there many of which are enforced against the exact people who are not the problem.

This reminds me of something I posted about california's enforcement of law: it is easier and more productive to enforce laws against white people who can pay fines and can be caught and will come to court than against "protected classes".

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