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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Doctor X » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:26 pm

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Not Pittsburgh fans, though.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby WildCat » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:29 pm

Mentat wrote:There is no democracy at this point to have faith in. Even if proof came out today that Trump worked with Putin, the new right narrative will be that there's nothing wrong with it. You all see even investigating the connection as more evil than them working together.

That extreme desperation is just sad at this point.
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby corplinx » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:06 am

You had 95% of the mass media accusing Trump of being a rapist over some shit talk with Billy Bush, but a little trolling paid for by a russian oligarch swung the election.

If you think that really happened, then Hillary was absolute AIDS to lose to that.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Doctor X » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:15 am

She was not a nice lady, corps.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby corplinx » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:33 am

She was so bad she lost to a rapey version of Hitler. She was bad and mentat should feel bad for carrying her ballsack so long after her hilarious defeat.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Mentat » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:45 am

Look at them frantically try to rationalize their treasonous alliance with enemies. But this is what the 2nd amendment is for.
It's "pea-can", man.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Doctor X » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:16 am

corplinx wrote:She was so bad she lost to a rapey version of Hitler. She was bad and mentat should feel bad for carrying her ballsack so long after her hilarious defeat.


The magnitude of bad proved so damning she lost to a clown. As I have indicated previously, America :freedom: was given the choice between a criminal and a clown. A criminal with rather "shady" connections with Gram Russia herself. Pointing out the clown's past with regards to women appears laughable in comparison to what the criminal did to cover up her husband's actual rapes. She attacked victims, and she continues to attack victims since she depended upon the lout for her political opportunities.

I sometimes wonder if she just divorced his dumb ass back in the 90s if it would have helped her overall. Who knows? Granted, that might have exposed a few skeletons--see what I did there?--in her park, but consider "Lady Di." She fucked everything that moved while Stupid Prince just fucked Everyone's Mom. He was the "bad guy" since he, apparently, started fucking Everyone's Mom prior to and during their marriage, so she got a "free pass." Perhaps Hillary would have as well.

Whatever, she did not do that, she chose to attack her husband's victims. She then decided to act like a foolish criminal for years.

All jokes aside--PHILLY HAD AN ILLEGALS UNDOCUMENTED PLAY--the last one came down to two teams whose defenses were at another game at the time. Review of the year showed the problems. Rabid Pats fans will scream about Buttler, but the game came down to the Eaglettes making a critical play not unlike Hightower's strip sack of Ryan the Super Bowl before.

Hillary Fans are the Worst Sports Fans. They will burn down their cities trying to pretend they did not lose. The signs her campaign was in trouble were there, but were clouded by the fact she ran against a clown!

They are like Eagles fans who think they can get the Supreme Court and Congress both to review a Super Bowl and get the outcome to change. Even the most disturb'd Pats Fans have not tried that--and there are some who claim Belichick "threw the game" because . . . because . . . REASONS!

Same delusional thinking. Same wearing of "pussy hats" ala team jerseys as IF the Team/Candidate gives a shit. Okay, if you are a major donor/Season Ticket Holder, they may shake your hand--for a hefty fee.
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Gram The Russkies do not "want" Trump, they do not "want" Hillary: they want chaos.

They got it.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:14 am

Mentat wrote:Look at them frantically try to rationalize their treasonous alliance with enemies. But this is what the 2nd amendment is for.


Aw c'mon.

You're not even trying now. :)
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby ed » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:38 pm

This is like true believers going on an expedition to mt. Ararat in search of the ark. They get there and they find shit but they say "see, we found something".

I think that Hillary boy-toys and sufferers of TDS are the same. The absence of evidence is evidence in and of itself.
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Mentat » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:13 pm

The evidence is in your own response.
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Giz » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:19 pm

Mentat wrote:The evidence is in your own response.


Accusations of edvidence are not edvidence of accusations.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:35 pm

Giz wrote:
Mentat wrote:The evidence is in your own response.


Accusations of edvidence are not edvidence of accusations.


Reminds me of the good old days at TOP when TOP was TOP. :)
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Mentat » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:24 am

Giz wrote:
Mentat wrote:The evidence is in your own response.


Accusations of edvidence are not edvidence of accusations.


Sorry, I don't speak gibberish.
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Giz » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:30 am

Mentat wrote:
Giz wrote:
Mentat wrote:The evidence is in your own response.


Accusations of edvidence are not edvidence of accusations.


Sorry, I don't speak gibberish.


Hopefully you don't speak Anglo-American (racist) or Russian (treasonous ) either.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Mentat » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:39 am

What the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Doctor X » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:44 pm

Flynn may withdraw his guilty plea.

Long-ass but detailed article with shit-tone of linkypoos in the Japanese Federalist Original:

How A Plea Reversal From Michael Flynn Could Uncover More Federal Corruption
Did Robert Mueller’s office withhold other evidence in Michael Flynn’s prosecution, either from the FISA court or from Flynn’s attorneys? There is reason to believe so.

Margot Cleveland
February 19, 2018

On Friday, Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order in United States v. Flynn that, while widely unnoticed, reveals something fascinating: A motion by Michael Flynn to withdraw his guilty plea based on government misconduct is likely in the works. So speculation but, according to her, reasonable given the following.

Just a week ago, and thus before Sullivan quietly directed Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team to provide Flynn’s attorneys “any exculpatory evidence,” Washington Examiner columnist Byron York detailed the oddities of Flynn’s case. The next day, former assistant U.S. attorney and National Review contributing editor Andrew McCarthy connected more of the questionable dots. York added even more details a couple of days later. Together these articles provide the backdrop necessary to understand the significance of Sullivan’s order on Friday.

["Snip!"--Ed.]

Sullivan enters identical standing orders as a matter of course in all of his criminal cases, as he explained in a 2016 Cardozo Law Review article: “Following the [Ted--Ed.] Stevens case, I have issued a standing Brady Order for each criminal case on my docket, updating it in reaction to developments in the law.” A Brady order directs the government to disclose all exculpatory evidence to defense counsel, as required by Brady v. Maryland. The Stevens case, of course, is the government’s corrupt prosecution of the late senator Ted Stevens—an investigation and prosecution which, as Sullivan put it, “were permeated by the systematic concealment of significant exculpatory evidence. . . .”

While the December standing order represented Sullivan’s normal practice, as both McCarthy and York noted, Flynn had already pled guilty. In his plea agreement, Flynn agreed to “forego the right to any further discovery or disclosures of information not already provided at the time of the entry of Flynn’s guilty plea.” On Wednesday, however, the attorneys in the Flynn case presented the court an agreed-upon protective order governing the use of the material — including sensitive material — the special counsel’s office provides Flynn. This indicates Mueller’s team will not fight Sullivan’s standing order based on the terms of Flynn’s plea agreement.

With a protective order in place, Flynn’s attorneys should start receiving the required disclosures from the special counsel’s office. There is reason to believe these will include some bombshells.

First, we know from the recently released GOP House Intelligence Committee memo and the Grassley-Graham criminal referral of Christopher Steele, the FBI and DOJ withheld significant (and material, in my view) information in seeking a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to conduct surveillance on Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page. There is cause to believe the FISA court was connected to the criminal charge filed against Flynn because Contreras, who recused less than a week after accepting Flynn’s guilty plea, “is one of just three FISA court judges who sits in the District of Columbia, where it is likely the Trump-Russia FISA warrants were sought.”

Was other evidence withheld, either from the FISA court or from Flynn’s attorneys in negotiating a plea? Again, there is reason to believe so, given the players involved and the facts already uncovered. "Did Trump commit treason and unlawful physical contact with a shrubbery? Again, there is reason to believe so, given the players involved and the facts already uncovered."

Remember, the special counsel charged Flynn with lying to FBI agents on January 24. While the charge did not identify the FBI agents involved, we know that Peter Strzok conducted the January interview that eventually led to the criminal case against Flynn. Strzok formed a part of Mueller’s team until he was removed following the discovery of hostile text messages concerning Trump, including a planned “insurance policy” should Trump win the White House.

Obama political holdover Sally Yates’ involvement in the case raises additional concerns. While Strzok and Mueller initially indicated they believed Flynn had been truthful, Yates, while serving as acting attorney general, had directed Strzok to interview Flynn and had pushed for charges against Flynn under the Logan Act. Another member of Mueller’s team, Andrew Weissmann, is likewise suspect given his praise for Yates’ refusal to defend Trump’s travel ban. Weissmann remains a part of the special counsel’s team, notwithstanding calls for his ouster.

Mueller must now provide Flynn all exculpatory evidence: Significantly, if the information is favorable to Flynn but the special counsel’s office believes it is immaterial, government attorneys must nonetheless provide the evidence to Sullivan to allow him to make the call. In other words, Mueller’s team cannot unilaterally decide what evidence matters, as the Department of Justice did in applying to the FISA court for a surveillance warrant on Page while withholding the key fact that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paid for information crucial to the application.

No one knows yet what the evidence will show. Nor does this author. But she does at least make a better "case" than Random Person Screaming on News Show. However, there are enough shady characters involved to believe there will be something of significance. Then what?

["Snip!"--Ed.]

On the surface, Friday’s order seems inconsequential, but in comparing the December 12, 2017, version to the February 16, 2018, version, one substantive change stood out.

It was subtle, but significant given the posture of this case: The revised version added one sentence specifying that the government’s obligation to produce evidence material either to the defendant’s guilt or punishment “includes producing, during plea negotiations, any exculpatory evidence in the government’s possession.”

While it is impossible to know whether Sullivan modified the standing order in response to special concerns in the Flynn case, it differs from the model text he included in his 2016 article, as well as the standing order he used most recently in a criminal case from August 2017. It is significant because it indicates that, if the government did not provide Flynn material evidence during plea negotiations, Flynn has grounds to withdraw his plea.

Sullivan’s revised standing order made that point clear, too—well, at least for Flynn’s lawyers. To explain: The Supreme Court has never addressed the question of whether a defendant may withdraw a guilty plea if the prosecution withholds exculpatory evidence during plea negotiations. The lower federal courts are split on this question. In his revised standing order issued on Friday, Sullivan dropped a lengthy footnote, detailing the case law and setting forth his position that, if material exculpatory evidence is withheld during plea negotiations, a defendant is entitled to withdraw his guilty plea.

Flynn’s attorneys now know what to do should Mueller’s team disclose such evidence. After the spanking Sullivan gave the prosecutors in the Stevens case, Mueller is on notice as well.

How A Plea Reversal From Michael Flynn Could Uncover More Federal Corruption


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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby Anaxagoras » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:16 pm

This was one of the infamous Russian troll Facebook ads.

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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby ed » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:19 pm

Absurd.
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby WildCat » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:17 am

Anaxagoras wrote:http://www.cracked.com/blog/stupid-trending-1-5B11-02-175D/

"I don't want to undermine how insidious this Russian-government funded troll campaign was. It was designed to divide the voting population along arbitrary lines such as race, gender, sexuality, and religion."

And the difference between them and the Democratic Party is...?
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Re: Mueller Investigation of Russian Interference

Postby WildCat » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:19 am

ed wrote:Absurd.

It's like a real-life Monty Python episode, and instead of laughing at them because such a campaign has no chance of swaying anyone they take it seriously.
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