Examples of self defense with a gun

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:19 am

And it doesn't matter that it doesn't matter that it doesn't match an acronym among people who value facts over emotional knee jerk reactions.
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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby xouper » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:39 am

Mentat wrote:Being shot is a health issue. Period.


That is not a valid rebuttal to the arguments I cited by Paul Hsieh (a physician) and Trevor Burrus (a lawyer).

Just because an individual requires personal medical attention for a gunshot injury does not mean that gun violence in general is a public health issue.

Apples and oranges, etc.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Giz » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:27 am

Mentat wrote:Being shot is a health issue. Period.


Great. Let’s sack all our generals and replace them with doctors.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:34 am

Giz wrote:
Mentat wrote:Being shot is a health issue. Period.


Great. Let’s sack all our generals and replace them with doctors.


Are you capable of writing anything that isn't completely moronic? I'd ask the same of xouper, but we already know the answer.
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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Giz » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:34 pm

Mentat wrote:
Giz wrote:
Mentat wrote:Being shot is a health issue. Period.


Great. Let’s sack all our generals and replace them with doctors.


Are you capable of writing anything that isn't completely moronic? I'd ask the same of xouper, but we already know the answer.


If you feel that there’s a spread of moronic posts, perhaps you should report it to the CDC? They can analyze the vector and determine how access to the forum should be restricted.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby WildCat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:07 pm

Mentat wrote:Are you capable of writing anything that isn't completely moronic?

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:26 pm

So that's a no then.
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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby xouper » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:36 pm

Mentat wrote:
Giz wrote:
Mentat wrote:Being shot is a health issue. Period.


Great. Let’s sack all our generals and replace them with doctors.


Are you capable of writing anything that isn't completely moronic? I'd ask the same of xouper, but we already know the answer.


I cited the professional opinion of a physician (Paul Hsieh) who clearly understands that being shot requires medical attention, and yet also understands that gun violence in general is not a public health issue, but rather is a public policy issue.

There's nothing moronic about quoting from such an expert, and there's nothing moronic about his expert opinion.

Nor have you presented any argument whatsoever that might be a valid rebuttal to the experts I cited.

You have merely made a red herring observation, which while true in its own context, is nonetheless irrelevant to the larger issue of nationwide gun violence.

Consequently, you do not have any moral standing to insinuate that others are making moronic posts.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:45 pm

I'm not going to waste time debating semantics with you. That's your game. You say something completely stupid, get called out on it, then retreat into word games and circular arguments.

And I don't have any time to be lectured about "morality" from some nazi loving asshole. The only thing that people like you understand is guns and might makes right.
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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Giz » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:51 pm

Mentat wrote:I'm not going to waste time debating semantics with you. That's your game. You say something completely stupid, get called out on it, then retreat into word games and circular arguments.
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That's your problem; you won't stick to your guns.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:00 pm

I'm all for sticking to guns. Xouper, ed, and wildcat are proof that now more than ever, we need the means to defend ourselves against radical terrorists.

But that does not mean I am so dishonest as to freak out at the fact that public health organizations want to collect data on the harmful side effects of firearms on health of the general populace. That is an emotional, irrational knee jerk reaction.
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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby xouper » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:51 pm

Mentat wrote:I'm not going to waste time debating semantics with you.


And yet that is exactly what you attempted to do with your original comment about "being shot is a health issue". You were arguing semantics.


Mentat wrote:You say something completely stupid, get called out on it, then retreat into word games and circular arguments.


Words mean things and when you misuse them, it is fair game to point that out.

Secondly, you have not demonstrated that I said anything stupid, or that my arguments are in any way flawed, circular or otherwise.


Mentat wrote:And I don't have any time to be lectured about "morality" from some nazi loving asshole.


Fact: I am not some nazi loving asshole. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for your absurd accusation.

I might be an asshole sometimes, but that is not at all relevant to the merits of my arguments. :P


Mentat wrote:The only thing that people like you understand is guns and might makes right.


That is factually incorrect.

Insults do not refute my comments or my position. Especially false insults.

When you resort to insults and bullying, it reveals you have no other argument.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:56 pm

:roll:
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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby xouper » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:00 pm

I win.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:05 pm

I'm not dead yet, so no.
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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby xouper » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:28 pm

You haven't scored any points in the game debate, so yes, I win.

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Rob Lister » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:55 pm

Has this thread covered any ground since ...
http://skepticalcommunity.com/forums/vi ... 77&p=22593

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:03 pm

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Re: Examples of self defense with a gun

Postby Mentat » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:06 pm

The only one trolling here is you and xouper.
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