Did something happen w/ North Korea?

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Re: Did something happen w/ North Korea?

Postby Grammatron » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:25 am

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Re: Did something happen w/ North Korea?

Postby Anaxagoras » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:47 am

One view of this is that Trump got "hoodwinked". I hope that's not true, but only time will tell.

Kristof | Trump was outfoxed in Singapore

It sure looks as if President Donald Trump was hoodwinked in Singapore.

Trump made a huge concession — the suspension of military exercises with South Korea. That’s on top of the broader concession of the summit meeting itself, security guarantees he gave North Korea and the legitimacy that the summit provides his counterpart, Kim Jong Un.

Within North Korea, the “very special bond” that Trump claimed to have formed with Kim will be portrayed this way: Kim forced the U.S. president, through his nuclear and missile tests, to accept North Korea as a nuclear equal, to provide security guarantees to North Korea, and to cancel war games with South Korea that the North has protested for decades.

In exchange for these concessions, Trump seems to have won astonishingly little. In a joint statement, Kim merely “reaffirmed” the same commitment to denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula that North Korea has repeatedly made since 1992.

“They were willing to de-nuke,” Trump crowed at his news conference after his meetings with Kim. Trump seemed to believe he had achieved some remarkable agreement, but the concessions were all his own.

The most remarkable aspect of the joint statement was what it didn’t contain. There was nothing about North Korea freezing plutonium and uranium programs, nothing about destroying intercontinental ballistic missiles, nothing about allowing inspectors to return to nuclear sites, nothing about North Korea making a full declaration of its nuclear program, nothing about a timetable, nothing about verification, not even any clear pledge to permanently halt testing of nuclear weapons or long-range missiles.
There was also something frankly weird about a U.S. president savaging Canada’s prime minister one day and then embracing the leader of the most totalitarian country in the world.

“He’s a very talented man,” Trump said of Kim. “I also learned that he loves his country very much.”

In an interview with Voice of America, Trump said “I like him” and added: “He’s smart, loves his people, he loves his country.”

Trump praised Kim in the news conference and, astonishingly, even adopted North Korean positions as his own, saying that the U.S. military exercises in the region are “provocative.” That’s a standard North Korean propaganda line. Likewise, Trump acknowledged that human rights in North Korea constituted a “rough situation,” but quickly added that “it’s rough in a lot of places, by the way.” (Note that a 2014 United Nations report stated that North Korean human rights violations do “not have any parallel in the contemporary world.”)

Incredibly, Trump told Voice of America that he had this message for the North Korean people: “I think you have somebody that has a great feeling for them. He wants to do right by them and we got along really well.”

It’s breathtaking to see a U.S. president emerge as a spokesman for the dictator of North Korea.


Of course we all know that North Korea is a country of gulags and probably the least free country in the world, but maybe if we pretend it isn't at least they will stop threatening people outside their borders?
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Re: Did something happen w/ North Korea?

Postby Grammatron » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:42 am

Anaxagoras wrote:One view of this is that Trump got "hoodwinked". I hope that's not true, but only time will tell.

Kristof | Trump was outfoxed in Singapore

At best you can say it was a big nothing burger. I don't see any outfoxing personally. The suspension of military exercise is viewed as some big concession yet it was and is as official as North Korea's concession to denuclearize.
Of course we all know that North Korea is a country of gulags and probably the least free country in the world, but maybe if we pretend it isn't at least they will stop threatening people outside their borders?


Actions will always speak louder than words especially when it comes to North Korea and their long list of broken promises.

PS: The least free country in the world is Eritrea.
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