Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

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Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

Post by Grammatron » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:21 pm

Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning
Washington (CNN) -- President Donald Trump said he wants to meet with NFL players and other athletes who kneel during the National Anthem so they can recommend people they think should be pardoned due to unfair treatment by the justice system.

In what he seemingly sees a solution, President Donald Trump said he wants NFL players and other athletes who kneeled during the National Anthem "I'm going to ask them to recommend to me people who were unfairly treated," Trump said at White House Friday. Trump's contentious relationship with the NFL reached a peak last year when he lambasted players who took a knee during the National Anthem to protest institutionalized racism and police brutality.
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Re: Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:23 pm

I'll wait until I see the story other than from CNN before bothering to formulate an opinion.
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Re: Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

Post by ed » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:26 pm

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Post by Grammatron » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:27 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:I'll wait until I see the story other than from CNN before bothering to formulate an opinion.
No worries dude, I got your favorite source on standby :)

http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/08/donald-tr ... rs-pardon/

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:36 pm

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Post by Bruce » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:31 pm

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Who among feels they have been treated unfairly?

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Re: Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:59 pm

Having seen it elsewhere I now provisionally beleive the story just barely enough to have an opinion.

Is having champion athletes visit the White House some sort of venerable tradition or something? I may be totally out of it, but I have never heard of such a thing. Whatever foul or stupid motives Trump may have, I'm all for separation of sports and state.

So bravo Trump for this one. 8)

Too bad Trump didn't pass up the new tradition started by Bush II of Iftaar dinner at the White House. :evil:
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Post by Witness » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:46 am

If it's true ( :? ), using overpaid minstrels as ethics/judicial experts proves, if need be, that politics are (I'd like to write "now" here, but that would be ridiculous) just for show.

At least court jesters sometimes provided good counsel, or so I read. :mrgreen:

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Re: Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

Post by gnome » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:52 am

Actually not a terrible idea publicity wise. But he's wide open for a damaging comeback--they could say "Freddy Gray" or similar and drive the point that in the cases they are protesting it is usually too late for a pardon to help. That would be a provocative move. It might be better to hunt up someone alive who does need a pardon, though.
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Post by RCC: Act II » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:55 pm

gnome wrote:Actually not a terrible idea publicity wise. But he's wide open for a damaging comeback--they could say "Freddy Gray" or similar and drive the point that in the cases they are protesting it is usually too late for a pardon to help. That would be a provocative move. It might be better to hunt up someone alive who does need a pardon, though.
People being wrongfully convicted of significant offenses is a very small part of the larger issue of malignant law enforcement practices. It is a dramatic part, but pardoning people does exactly nothing going forward to change the conditions leading to the need for such a pardon. A lot of common abuses do not end in a significant wrongful conviction.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:50 pm

What RCC just said, except that I would amplify that when it comes to wrongful convictions being a systemic problem, I primarily blame the prosecutors not the cops.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:15 pm

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Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:10 pm

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1J41SR
Before leaving to attend the Group of Seven summit in Canada, Trump told reporters he was considering pardoning some 3,000 people, including Ali, who died in 2016.

“I’m thinking about somebody that you all know very well, and he went through a lot and he wasn’t very popular then,” Trump said. “His memory is very popular now. I’m thinking about Muhammad Ali. I’m thinking about that very seriously.”
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Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:27 am

Not to mention that pardoning dead people is exactly the sort of things that fits the pejorative sense of "virtue signaling". A purely symbolic gesture that changes nothing that happened in the past.
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Re: Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

Post by Rob Lister » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:31 am

Anaxagoras wrote:Not to mention that pardoning dead people is exactly the sort of things that fits the pejorative sense of "virtue signaling". A purely symbolic gesture that changes nothing that happened in the past.
Robert E. Lee would disagree. :wink:

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:06 am

Analysis:
Trump thinks (or his trusted advisers whoever they are think) he can peel off just enough of the "black vote" (it doesn't have to be that much) to make 2020 a landslide (say > 52% of the total vote).
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Post by corplinx » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:17 pm

4D chess, now we have 4D street dice.

No vote is weirder than the black one since anyone who is vocally D is an Uncle Tom race traitor. They way people who leave the plantation are treated is despicable and media largely _enables_ the attackers.