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Woke.

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:39 pm

Informal poll.

Who here has heard this expression used un-ironically in not-on-the-'net real conversation from anyone of any race?


Not me.
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Re: Woke.

Postby ed » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:44 pm

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Re: Woke.

Postby shuize » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:00 pm

No. But I look forward to it.

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Re: Woke.

Postby Skeeve » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:12 pm

Never...unless it is what happens when it is time to get ready for work...
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SO OKAY I cheated and did a google search, is this what you are talking about?
The political problem with being ‘woke’

A few weeks ago, I mentioned on “Meet the Press” that for all the horror of the recent school shootings, we shouldn’t be scaremongering. There’s much less gun violence overall in schools today than in the early 1990s. Four times as many students were killed per year back then than in recent years.

This comment elicited a lot of hatred on social media, of a very interesting kind. The general diagnosis was that I was doing something wrong by not maximizing the size of the problem. I was draining moral urgency and providing comfort to the status quo.

This mental habit is closely related to what we now call “wokeness.” In an older frame of mind, you try to perceive the size of a problem objectively and then you propose a solution, which might either be radical or moderate, conservative or liberal. You were judged primarily by the nature of your proposal.

But wokeness jams together the perceiving and the proposing. In fact, wokeness puts more emphasis on how you perceive a situation – how woke you are to what is wrong – than what exactly you plan to do about it. To be woke is to understand the full injustice.

Okay, sounds like a crock of SJW/Feminist clap trap, is that it?

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Re: Woke.

Postby Pyrrho » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:19 pm

Skeeve is lit.
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Re: Woke.

Postby Anaxagoras » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:53 pm

I see it used unironically on the internet all the time. But since I don't live in America or have a lot of progressive friends I don't think I can recall ever hearing it in a face-to-face conversation.
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Re: Woke.

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:55 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:... But since I don't live in America or have a lot of progressive friends I don't think I can recall ever hearing it in a face-to-face conversation.


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Re: Woke.

Postby Pyrrho » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:57 pm

Most of the time I see it used ironically, as in, "He thinks he woke."
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Re: Woke.

Postby Anaxagoras » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:01 pm

Are you suggesting that this word is only used on the Internet? Because I rather doubt that. You just don't know the right sort of people. I bet you it's used on college campuses not infrequently. Just like there are certain words that you will only hear in church or a synagogue, but only rarely outside of that.
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Re: Woke.

Postby Nyarlathotep » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:01 pm

The weird thing I find about the phrase is how it has kind of morphed in meaning in such a short time. It now seems to mostly refer to a particular brand of politics. When I first started spotting it, it was mostly the way people like 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers and other such scum referred to themselves.
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Re: Woke.

Postby Pyrrho » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:06 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:Are you suggesting that this word is only used on the Internet? Because I rather doubt that. You just don't know the right sort of people. I bet you it's used on college campuses not infrequently. Just like there are certain words that you will only hear in church or a synagogue, but only rarely outside of that.

Oh, not suggesting that at all. My social interactions are rather limited, so I only see it used on the Internet, and when I have, it's often been in the context of, "He thinks he's 'woke' because he retweets Antifa," or something like that, akin to criticizing people for "virtue signaling."
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Re: Woke.

Postby Pyrrho » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:06 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:The weird thing I find about the phrase is how it has kind of morphed in meaning in such a short time. It now seems to mostly refer to a particular brand of politics. When I first started spotting it, it was mostly the way people like 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers and other such scum referred to themselves.

"Wake up, sheeple!" etc.
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Re: Woke.

Postby corplinx » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:18 pm

Woke is when someone other than you see things your way. (left or right)

It's almost always someone else converting strangely...

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Re: Woke.

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:20 pm

corplinx wrote:Woke is when someone other than you see things your way. (left or right)

It's almost always someone else converting strangely...


Well yeah, but have you ever heard someone being serious say it in person?
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Re: Woke.

Postby Nyarlathotep » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:35 pm

Pyrrho wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:The weird thing I find about the phrase is how it has kind of morphed in meaning in such a short time. It now seems to mostly refer to a particular brand of politics. When I first started spotting it, it was mostly the way people like 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers and other such scum referred to themselves.

"Wake up, sheeple!" etc.


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Re: Woke.

Postby Skeeve » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:37 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
corplinx wrote:Woke is when someone other than you see things your way. (left or right)

It's almost always someone else converting strangely...


Well yeah, but have you ever heard someone being serious say it in person?

A Jehovah's Witness maybe...otherwise no...
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Re: Woke.

Postby Nyarlathotep » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:39 pm

I have never seen it in real life, but I keep the number of conspiracy theorists and people who use stupid slang to a minimum in my life
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Re: Woke.

Postby corplinx » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:52 pm

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Media getting woke... quick. Someone say RUSSHUH!!! (the only Xenophobia sanctioned and accepted by the DNC and Washington Press Corps)

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Re: Woke.

Postby sparks » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:04 pm

Woke. Brain-dead. It's all the same in the age of Orange.
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Re: Woke.

Postby Doctor X » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:27 pm

It is a term that reveals the lack of character of the user the same way as "cuck."

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