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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:41 am

This is a little bit like what happened in the Republican party a few years ago, when Eric Cantor lost his primary. He was House Majority Leader at the time, 2nd in rank only to the Speaker of the House.

Top Democrat Crowley loses in shocker
Rep. Joe Crowley was unseated Tuesday night by primary challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in his New York City district, an astonishing fall for the powerful chairman of the House Democratic Caucus just as talk was building in Washington that he was a potential future speaker of the House.

Crowley became the highest-profile Democrat to lose a primary this year, and the highest-ranking House member to lose an intra-party fight since Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost in 2014. Crowley, the longtime Democratic Party boss in Queens, had not faced a primary challenger in over a decade. But Ocasio-Cortez's activist campaign overran Crowley's old-guard support and cast more uncertainty on the future of Democrats' leadership in the House.
Old white-guy "party boss" defeated by a young latina woman and socialist.
Ocasio-Cortez, 28, challenged Crowley on ideological, generational and racial grounds, arguing that the 10-term congressman was not in step with his majority-minority district and was too cozy with corporate donors. A former Bernie Sanders organizer, Ocasio-Cortez campaigned on abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency and pushing the Medicare-for-all bill championed by Sanders.

Born in the Bronx to a Puerto Rican mother, she also made the district's diversity a central message of her campaign.

“We meet a machine with a movement, and that is what we have done today," Ocasio-Cortez told NY1 before the race was called. "I think what we’ve seen is that working class Americans want a clear champion and there is nothing radical about moral clarity in 2018.”

Ocasio-Cortez took 57 percent of the Democratic primary vote to 43 percent for Crowley.

In a statement conceding defeat, Crowley said he was "proud of the race we ran" and congratulated Ocasio-Cortez, pledging to support her in the fall.

"The Trump administration is a threat to everything we stand for here in Queens and the Bronx, and if we don't win back the House this November, we will lose the nation we love. This is why we must come together," Crowley said.
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Re: Bernie supporter ousts high-ranking Dem

Post by Grammatron » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:50 am

Is this DNC's new course?
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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:09 am

Grammatron wrote:Is this DNC's new course?
This is what the primary voters in the district decided.

The DNC was probably as shocked as anyone else and had just assumed that the old incumbent would win because of course he would.
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Post by Pyrrho » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:58 am

The DNC's course remains what it has been for some time: not listening to their constituents.
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Post by Pyrrho » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:07 am

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Yes, it's nice to see all the Dem pundits & officials congratulate @Ocasio2018. But it's still worth remembering & focusing on that the whole party establishment united against her. That says a lot about the party and what it reveals still needs to be radically battled & smashed:
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Post by Skeeve » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:07 pm

Then Skank Of America could start in...

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Post by WildCat » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:30 pm

Grammatron wrote:Is this DNC's new course?
Yes.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:32 pm

They have a "course"?

All the tricks that used to work have stopped working after that peek behind the curtain.
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Post by RCC: Act II » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm

Pyrrho wrote:The DNC's course remains what it has been for some time: not listening to their constituents.
It isn't so much not listening as not liking it. The establishment Democrats are in the same boat the conservative movement is in. It is slowly being demographically crushed. The conservatives have managed to maintain relevance mostly through taking advantage of the less democratic aspects of US politics. The EC, the senate, gerrymandering on various levels, etc.

The Establishment Dems are in the same boat. They control the party machine and are far more palatable to moneyed interests so they also have fundraising advantages. So they can stave off Sanders and other more left leaning dems for a while, but probably not for long.

This result is impressive but probably limited in scope. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If Ojeda picks up WV-3, that's going to pretty much be it for corporate democrats trying to middle of the road things. Ojeda isn't exactly a leftist progressive, but he's clearly left of center, rabidly pro-labor, and is famous for telling lobbyists to go fuck themselves. If a guy saying the coal industry sucks wins a congressional district made up almost entirely of the coalfields and that went for Trump by like 50 points.... maybe the Democratic Party as an entity starts to understand that the moneyed interests do more harm than good.

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Re: Bernie supporter ousts high-ranking Dem

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:53 pm

The latest on Ocasio-Cortez.

Link is to Democratic Underground thread because it is more instructive than the story itself.

I was a big fan, but Ocasio-Cortez is starting to get on my nerves.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210888942
I wasn't happy to hear she was going in to Kansas with Bernie Sanders to campaign against Lacy Clay, a progressive CBC member, but I'm furious that she's campaigning against Sharice Davids, a progressive gay, Native American woman.

I expect this from Sanders, but Ocasio-Cortez really needs to get some better advice and chill.
A long thread, and not all agree.

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Post by corplinx » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:02 pm

I'm all in favor of the youth ousting the machine.

But Ocasio-Cortez is a high functioning retardo who is getting by on being skinny/young and there is a large complicit wing of the DNC media wing who is trying to create a star out of her and shove her down everyone's throats.

She is a Gnocialist. A neo-socialist who Gnows nothing.

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Post by WildCat » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:37 pm

corplinx wrote:I'm all in favor of the youth ousting the machine.

But Ocasio-Cortez is a high functioning retardo who is getting by on being skinny/young and there is a large complicit wing of the DNC media wing who is trying to create a star out of her and shove her down everyone's throats.

She is a Gnocialist. A neo-socialist who Gnows nothing.
You're only saying that because she's not a white man you racist misogynist.
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Post by corplinx » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:39 pm

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She's a seditious hick. Probably shacking up with those Bundy Ranchers. buncha toothless yokels, amirite?

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:49 pm

How can she be a seditious "hick"?

She's from the Bronx. Probably never met a "hick". :BigGrin3:


Also -- If "they" (whoever the hell they are) occupy airports, they really will be rounded up.
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Post by xouper » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:11 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Also -- If "they" (whoever the hell they are) occupy airports, they really will be rounded up.
Rounded up and separated from their children (if "they" have any).

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Post by xouper » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:38 pm

Grammatron wrote:Is this DNC's new course?
Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 'represents the future of our party,' DNC Chairman Tom Perez says



And in other news, Ocasio-Cortez exposes her ignorance of economics, despite boasting on twitter that she has a degree in economics from Boston University.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ wrote:During the interview, Ocasio-Cortez said, "Unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low because people are working 60, 70, 80 hours a week and can barely feed their family."

. . . We rate the statement Pants on Fire. Image
Error #1: The number of jobs a person has is irrelevant in calculating the unemployment rate. Either they are employed or not employed.

Error #2: According to government data, about five percent of people with jobs have more than one job, and that percentage has been declining over the past 20 years.

Error #3: The number of hours per week a person works is also irrelevant in calculating the unemployment rate.

If this is the future of the Democratic Party, then it seems to me they are doomed.

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Post by Giz » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:42 pm

xouper wrote:
If this is the future of the Democratic Party, then it seems to me they are doomed.
You seem to be assuming a discerning, skeptical electorate.

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Post by WildCat » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:10 pm

xouper wrote:
Grammatron wrote:Is this DNC's new course?
Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 'represents the future of our party,' DNC Chairman Tom Perez says



And in other news, Ocasio-Cortez exposes her ignorance of economics, despite boasting on twitter that she has a degree in economics from Boston University.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ wrote:During the interview, Ocasio-Cortez said, "Unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low because people are working 60, 70, 80 hours a week and can barely feed their family."

. . . We rate the statement Pants on Fire. Image
Error #1: The number of jobs a person has is irrelevant in calculating the unemployment rate. Either they are employed or not employed.

Error #2: According to government data, about five percent of people with jobs have more than one job, and that percentage has been declining over the past 20 years.

Error #3: The number of hours per week a person works is also irrelevant in calculating the unemployment rate.

If this is the future of the Democratic Party, then it seems to me they are doomed.
Is Boston University a "real" college, or a diploma mill?
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