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QAnon?

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:32 am

Anyone heard of this yet?

White House press secretary denounces conspiracy theorists after QAnon followers appeared at Trump rally in Florida

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders denounced conspiracy theorists and other fringe groups a day after believers in “QAnon” showed up at a Trump rally in Florida Tuesday.

“The President condemns and denounces any group that would incite violence against any individual and certainly doesn't support groups that would promote that type of behavior. We've been clear about that a number of times,” Sanders said Wednesday.

QAnon refers to members who subscribe to a thread on 8chan, an anonymous image board also known as Infinitechan or Infinitychan.

“Q” is an anonymous user who claims to be a government agent with top security clearance, and claims knowledge of a “deep state” conspiracy run by liberals.

Sign-holding conspiracy theorists brought QAnon out of the dark corners of the web and into the light at Florida State Fairgrounds’ Expo Hall Tuesday, where they chanted “fake news” and “build the wall.”

“We are Q,” read one sign.

Another “Q”-follower held a sign reading, “For where we go one we go all,” spelled out in the shape of the letter.

They also wore T-shirts and caps available for purchase on Amazon.com.

QAnon followers tend to be “Trump supporters who have a strong conspiracy mentality and are probably evangelical,” University of Miami professor Joseph Uscinski, who studies conspiracy theories, told USA Today.

They believe the “deep state” is guilty of committing — and covering up — heinous crimes including child sex trafficking and false-flag shootings.

Its members declared victory on Wednesday after Sanders addressed their strong showing in Florida.

“Congratulations, Patriots. We are now mainstream. Enjoy the show,” user Qanye Quest wrote on Twitter. “The movement is growing exponentially. We are reaching critical mass. Direct confirmation will come from @POTUS,” the same user wrote, warning that the attacks on the group “will only get worse.”
So is this a sincere belief or some kind of elaborate trolling? Poe's Law has me stumped here.
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Re: QAnon?

Post by Skeeve » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:02 am

We are Q’: A deranged conspiracy cult leaps from the Internet to the crowd at Trump’s ‘MAGA’ tour
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But viewing their message boards, it’s clear that QAnon crosses a new frontier. In the black hole of conspiracy in which “Q” has plunged its followers, Trump only feigned collusion to create a pretense for the hiring of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is actually working as a “white hat,” or hero, to expose the Democrats. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and George Soros are planning a coup — and traffic children in their spare time. J.P. Morgan, the American financier, sank the Titanic.
The bit with Trump and Mueller sounds laughable kind of strange,
and the Soros bit (although EU migration maybe tied to Clinton "donors") is a a bit of a stretch....

NGO Fleet Bussing Migrants Into The EU Has Ties To George Soros, Hillary Clinton Donors
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Re: QAnon?

Post by ed » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:13 am

Thing is that once you get to certain rarefied levels of wealth, everyone knows everyone. Everyone has ties to everyone and everything. So, by extension, every conspiracy theory has some basis in fact.
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Re: QAnon?

Post by Pyrrho » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:47 pm

Check JJ MacNab on Twitter for QAnon info. It's just more fringe hate going mainstream.
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Re: QAnon?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:09 pm

So is this a sincere belief or some kind of elaborate trolling?
I'm gonna call "false dichotomy" on this one. 8)
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Re: QAnon?

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:56 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:09 pm
So is this a sincere belief or some kind of elaborate trolling?
I'm gonna call "false dichotomy" on this one. 8)
"Trolling" is by nature insincere.
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Re: QAnon?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:04 pm

"Tolling" is by nature deliberate provocation.

This may be consistent with sincerity, rather than merely 4 teh LULz.
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Re: QAnon?

Post by Pyrrho » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:47 pm

It's abusive, antisocial behavior.
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Re: QAnon?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:51 pm

Pyrrho wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:47 pm
It's abusive, antisocial behavior.
But not necessarily insincere. :)
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Re: QAnon?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:02 pm

If by that, you mean that even socio and psychopaths think they're right, then ... um ... you may be ... um ... right. :ImOuttaHere:
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:15 pm

sparks gets it. 8)
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Re: QAnon?

Post by xouper » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:19 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:32 am
Anyone heard of this yet?
Lots of people have heard of it.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=qanon

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Re: QAnon?

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:27 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:56 pm
"Trolling" is by nature insincere.
Certainly by the Japanese Original definition which is simply seeking attention, any attention, negative or positive.

This is different from satire such as "POE" where one attracts the attention to generate critical examination to ridicule of the target.

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Re: QAnon?

Post by corplinx » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:18 pm

They don't believe Jeremy Epstein and Harvey Weinstein were not known to be predators.

They look at people like Jimmy Saville and the only logical conclusion they draw is that more people in power were not just complicit but enablers.

The easy answer "cowardice/looking away" isn't enough for them.

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Re: QAnon?

Post by Pyrrho » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:47 pm

Abusers can be very good at causing a social system that minimizes their own risk. Often that works because the abused keep the secret, the abuser by default has already intimidated the abused, and other people often do not recognize the abuse for what it is. People in positions of power have the advantage. Abuse by its nature is an imposition of power and control. Often difficult to overcome.
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Post by corplinx » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:51 pm

You and I both know that, but they look at it and say "oh come the fuck on".

Their healthy disbelief turns toxic though.

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Re: QAnon?

Post by Witness » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:24 am

Qanun?



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