Is he indicted yet?

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Grammatron » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:40 pm

sparks wrote:
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Russians: we have dirt on Trump

Hillary: great, here's $15 million we can use that to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then get a special prosecutor appointed to nullify the election.
And if she'd won, I'd expect an investigation from the Right every bit as thorough (if that's the right word) as is going on now with Trump and his minions.
I guess we should weigh the investigation against a duck to see what kind of hunt it is.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:42 pm

Cute. But unhelpful.

(I, of course, have never posted anything .... aw shit!) :)
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by WildCat » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:49 pm

sparks wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:37 pm
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:52 pm
Russians: we have dirt on Trump

Hillary: great, here's $15 million we can use that to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then get a special prosecutor appointed to nullify the election.
And if she'd won, I'd expect an investigation from the Right every bit as thorough (if that's the right word) as is going on now with Trump and his minions.
Is there a statute anywhere where a crime only occurs if the person wins an election?
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:49 pm

In the case of Trump, the crime is that he won the election.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:34 am

WildCat wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:49 pm
sparks wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:37 pm
WildCat wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:52 pm
Russians: we have dirt on Trump

Hillary: great, here's $15 million we can use that to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then get a special prosecutor appointed to nullify the election.
And if she'd won, I'd expect an investigation from the Right every bit as thorough (if that's the right word) as is going on now with Trump and his minions.
Is there a statute anywhere where a crime only occurs if the person wins an election?
No, but the implication of a problem with the reciprocity I alluded to was yours. I was merely agreeing with the reciprocity. There you are with those pesky goal posts again. :)
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by WildCat » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:44 am

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No, but the implication of a problem with the reciprocity I alluded to was yours. I was merely agreeing with the reciprocity. There you are with those pesky goal posts again. :)
I have no idea what you're talking about. What reciprocity? The $145 million in donations from the Russian Oligarchs to the Clinton Foundation after Hillary was instrumental in the Uranium One sale? The $500,000 speech Bill gave in Moscow?
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:21 am

Those are not at all collusion.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:08 pm

"I have no idea what you're talking about."

Yes.

I know. :)

But seriously, those items you mentioned regarding Billary certainly could be seen as reprehensible, perhaps even actionable. But nothing will ever come of any of it because she didn't win! Oh, wait, she did win the popular vote, but IT WAS RIGGED!!!... and shit.

In short, Billary is a scumbag. But your boy Trump is even worse. Why do you insist on defending the douche-nozzle? Do you honestly buy into his bag of snake oil?
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Grammatron » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:36 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:08 pm
In short, Billary is a scumbag. But your boy Trump is even worse.
Billary are proven scumbags while Trump is only alleged.
Why do you insist on defending the douche-nozzle? Do you honestly buy into his bag of snake oil?
Because we are adults and can have a discussion where just because someone's a thief it doesn't follow they are also an arsonist.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by RCC: Act II » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:41 pm

So is this thread anything more than a massive inductive reasoning fail on the level of arguing that I'll never turn 50 because up to this point I've been on earth a long time and I haven't hit fifty yet?

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Grammatron » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:55 pm

RCC: Act II wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:41 pm
So is this thread anything more than a massive inductive reasoning fail on the level of arguing that I'll never turn 50 because up to this point I've been on earth a long time and I haven't hit fifty yet?
It's just a simple, theoretical conversation I'm sorry it's not sufficiently life changing for you.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:05 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:36 pm
sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:08 pm
In short, Billary is a scumbag. But your boy Trump is even worse.
Billary are proven scumbags while Trump is only alleged.
Why do you insist on defending the douche-nozzle? Do you honestly buy into his bag of snake oil?
Because we are adults and can have a discussion where just because someone's a thief it doesn't follow they are also an arsonist.
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And while I hate to use the same quote on the same day: "There are none so blind as those who will not see." And if you can't/won't see that Trump is the worstest POTUS to come down the pike since the inception of our country, then I feel for your lost ability to reason, and your Mom.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Giz » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:37 pm

Worst ever in terms of:
- decent man that you'd be happy to have as friend/neighbor, or
- effect on the nation's security, economy, immigration, etc?

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by WildCat » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:48 pm

If Andrew Jackson were alive today Trump would be a model of decorum by contrast.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:53 pm

Giz wrote:
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Worst ever in terms of:
- decent man that you'd be happy to have as friend/neighbor, or
- effect on the nation's security, economy, immigration, etc?
Fallacy.

We all know what Trump is.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by ed » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:54 pm

I wonder if he is going to start serving time before he is convicted. He could get a jump on the inevitable.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:55 pm

He will pardon himself.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Grammatron » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:57 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:05 pm
Grammatron wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:36 pm
sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:08 pm
In short, Billary is a scumbag. But your boy Trump is even worse.
Billary are proven scumbags while Trump is only alleged.
Why do you insist on defending the douche-nozzle? Do you honestly buy into his bag of snake oil?
Because we are adults and can have a discussion where just because someone's a thief it doesn't follow they are also an arsonist.
Gnome, Gnome, Gnome. Your Mom.

And while I hate to use the same quote on the same day: "There are none so blind as those who will not see." And if you can't/won't see that Trump is the worstest POTUS to come down the pike since the inception of our country, then I feel for your lost ability to reason, and your Mom.
Trump the person may be a shithole but as a POTUS he has not done anything yet to be in the worse contention.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Giz » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:02 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:53 pm
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:37 pm
Worst ever in terms of:
- decent man that you'd be happy to have as friend/neighbor, or
- effect on the nation's security, economy, immigration, etc?
Fallacy.

We all know what Trump is.
Assume I don't. Can you putin a bit more info?

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 pm

At Grammy:

That would be your opinion.

The future will tell.

Are you really so naive as to believe that he's a shithole as a person (do you believe he's a shithole as a person?) and that this fact won't affect his performance as POTUS?

You cannot separate the two.
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