Is he indicted yet?

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by xouper » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:06 pm

sparks wrote:
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And while I hate to use the same quote on the same day: "There are none so blind as those who will not see." And if you can't/won't see that Trump is the worstest POTUS to come down the pike since the inception of our country, then I feel for your lost ability to reason, and your Mom.
Trump is like a Rorschach Test. People see things filtered through their prejudices and biases, not what is really there.

Secondly, I don't have to like Trump personally to be appreciative of his policy accomplishments.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:07 pm

Giz wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:02 pm
sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:53 pm
Giz wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:37 pm
Worst ever in terms of:
- decent man that you'd be happy to have as friend/neighbor, or
- effect on the nation's security, economy, immigration, etc?
Fallacy.

We all know what Trump is.
Assume I don't. Can you putin a bit more info?
Pussy grabbing narcissist who wants to fuck his own daughter. He's said so himself and it's a matter of record.

'Nuff said?
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by xouper » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:08 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 pm
That would be your opinion.
As are your opinions about Trump. :wink:

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:09 pm

No. My opinions about Trump are a matter of the mans record.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by xouper » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:13 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:07 pm
Pussy grabbing narcissist who wants to fuck his own daughter. He's said so himself and it's a matter of record.
That is factually incorrect. Those are inferences you made from what he said. He did not actually say those things.

I assume you will disagree, so it will be necessary for you to post this "record" you speak of.

sparks wrote:
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No. My opinions about Trump are a matter of the mans record.
Wrong. It is not a matter of record. It is merely your prejudiced and biased inferences from the actual record.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:15 pm

And what would you conclude from him saying that if Ivanka weren't his daughter, he'd probably be dating her?

At the very least, it shows that he has a propensity to open his mouth without thinking too much about what he's about to say.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Giz » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:18 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:15 pm
And what would you conclude from him saying that if Ivanka weren't his daughter, he'd probably be dating her?
Seems unlikely. Marrying trump has historically been one of the jobs that Americans won't do.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:21 pm

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And what would you conclude from him saying that if Ivanka weren't his daughter, he'd probably be dating her?
That he does not actually want to "fuck his own daughter" as you claimed.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by WildCat » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:54 pm

sparks wrote:
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a shithole as a person
I don't think you're using that word correctly.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Grammatron » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:01 pm

sparks wrote:
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At Grammy:

That would be your opinion.
Yes, which is different from fact. For example, you have only presented your opinion.

The future will tell.

Are you really so naive as to believe that he's a shithole as a person (do you believe he's a shithole as a person?) and that this fact won't affect his performance as POTUS?

You cannot separate the two.
Actions speak louder than shitholes. So far the actions of POTUS have been to the benefit of USA, in my opinion. Further, and still in my opinion, the actions of POTUS have not been detrimental to USA.

Finally, I can recognize we have a different set of standards on which we as individuals form an opinion. But I do recall when Bush was POTUS there were attempts to label him as worst President ever, by you included. Is Trump worse than Bush in your opinion?

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:09 pm

What you do not understand, Gram is that it was Her Turn to be the worst President ever!

More partisan crying. He is not the worse, Obama was not the worse, et cetera.

Granted, if he stopped tweeting and acting like a reactionary child, he would give the partisan crybabies less ammunition.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Grammatron » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:13 pm

Doctor X wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:09 pm
Granted, if he stopped tweeting and acting like a reactionary child, he would give the partisan crybabies less ammunition.

--J.D.
Very likely but they would still have ammunition. Bush did not tweet from what I recall.

On the other hand, Trump has every right, just like any other American, to permanently attach his foot to his mouth, shove his head up his ass and tweet from there. No one is forced to read twitter.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:39 pm

As I have indicated many times, politics have made sports arguments seem rational. Had it been Her Turn, the Republican controlled House and Senate would have made her life a living hell. Granted, since everyone pretty much expected it to be Her Turn, there would only be Trump screaming she cheated along with the usual types still looking for Obama's placenta.

His critics never gave him a chance; I doubt her critics would have either.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Doctor X » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:53 pm

Which brings me to the Uncomfortable Question I have asked those I know who chose--with noses pinched--Her Turn:
"What has Trump done that is 'bad?'"
The various tariffs are a point worthy of mootage.

Other than that, behaving like a buffoon? I really do not give a shit what Pierre and Hans who sat around while Group with Silly Hats committed genocide with that Other Group with Silly Hats in the cesspool that was Yugoslavia think.

Here are some things that, so far, Trump has not done:
1. Start a war: "Oh but he WILL!!11! With Russia . . . as Russia's lapdog! Er!"
2. Use FISA warrants to spy on his many critics.
3. Use the IRS the same way to punish his many critics.
4. Propose/Advocate/Endorse Constitutional Amendments that would:
  • *Effectively make gay marriage illegal.
    *Return abortion to individual states.
    *Introduce school prayer or otherwise favor religion
5. Round up minorities, target minorities, randomly shoot minorities, et cetera.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:21 pm

Give the man a chance Doc.

Patience.
Patience.
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Grammatron » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:27 pm

Disappointing but not unexpected.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:34 pm

He (Trump) is indeed Gram. :De_Bunk:
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by xouper » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:45 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:07 pm
Pussy grabbing narcissist who wants to fuck his own daughter. He's said so himself and it's a matter of record.
xouper wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:13 pm
That is factually incorrect. Those are inferences you made from what he said. He did not actually say those things.
sparks wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:15 pm
And what would you conclude from him saying that if Ivanka weren't his daughter, he'd probably be dating her?
Doctor X wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:21 pm
That he does not actually want to "fuck his own daughter" as you claimed.
My answer is the same as Doctor X's answer.

Here's more context and explanation from sources I assume most liberals usually trust:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/peo ... rump_x.htm

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donal ... -daughter/

Thus, contrary to your claim, Trump has not said he'd like to "fuck his own daughter". That is a faulty inference you made all on your own (or possibly you heard it from the Fake News without bothering to fact-check it).

I'm not going to speculate about your motive for arriving at such an uncharitable "interpretation" of what Trump actually said or intended to say. However, this example seems to support my previously stated observation that Trump is like a Rorschach Test.

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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:49 pm

Tough shit sparks.

Wanting to fuck one's own daughter, or even actually doing it, is not an impeachable offense unless the US congress says so. :BigGrin3:
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Re: Is he indited yet?

Post by sparks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:59 pm

He said that if Ivanka weren't his own daughter, he'd probably be dating her.

Twist that up any way you want, and I'll do the same.

That is all.

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