Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by gnome » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:48 pm

Nobody ever objects to things for less than obvious reasons. Legal proceedings are very orderly that way.
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by corplinx » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:29 am

It looks like they managed to steal Arizona while Florida was getting all the attention.

The most populous democrat county was doing the "curing the ballots" sketchy thing for 5 days following the election.

The GOP counties did not and sued to be allowed to change their rules to do so as well, or to stop the steal in Maricopa.

Maricopa was already organized and ready though. The GOP counties couldn't just turn it "back on". It takes co-ordination to have the registered voters list and a stack of pre-filled ballots ready to do.

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Surprise » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:12 am

corplinx wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:11 pm
Overt attempts to rig elections underway.

Seriously, wtf. Are the democrats just the party of evil now? Trump has made them completely unhinged?
Seriously, what evidence?

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:53 am

Surprise wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:12 am
corplinx wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:11 pm
Overt attempts to rig elections underway.

Seriously, wtf. Are the democrats just the party of evil now? Trump has made them completely unhinged?
Seriously, what evidence?
How about it corplinx?

Or is that argumentam ad "they always do that"? :cowbell:
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by gnome » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:09 pm

Hey, do we have a newbie and I missed the welcome party?
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Giz » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:19 pm

There was an October surprise?

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:16 pm

President Trump cites conspiracy theory to demand Florida stop recount with Republicans ahead

Trump wants to disenfranchise military voters. Sad.
There’s also a dark irony in Trump’s demand coming on Veterans Day: If the recount were to be halted immediately, it would have the effect of disenfranchising overseas military personnel who submitted absentee ballots that can be tallied until November 16.


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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by corplinx » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:29 pm

oh God, now they wrap their sedition in patriotism

it's for the vets!

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by gnome » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:46 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:53 am

How about it corplinx?

Or is that argumentam ad "they always do that"? :cowbell:
Wait, I got you on that train finally?
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:15 pm

gnome wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:46 pm
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:53 am

How about it corplinx?

Or is that argumentam ad "they always do that"? :cowbell:
Wait, I got you on that train finally?
You!!!? :HoppingMad2:
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by corplinx » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:40 am

Leaving it open 5 days to "cure" ballots thus allowing Maricopa to change the outcome and do so enough to avoid a recount...

eh.. if it walks like fraud and quacks like a fraud. I'll default to fraud since it's a black box. there is no presumption of legitimacy to be had.

but sure. the Barry Goldwater state elected an SJW senator. sure. that makes sense.it could happen. non Christian SJW.

I'd like to believe Arizona is forward enough to not cars about the Christian thing, but it doesnt jibe.

and it's the same stunt they tried in Maricopa.

I mean. what the fuck people. have you not listened to the news?

They cant prove their results are legitimate.

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:04 am

This right here is the cause of the problem,

Reporters Become Participants in Tribal Political Warfare

This cuts right to the heart of it
That America's political tribes hate each other is difficult to deny. "If you're wondering why American democracy seems to have decayed so quickly, the graph below gives a big part of the story," social psychologist Jonathan Haidt tweeted in October, pointing to data from political scientists Marc Hetherington and Jonathan that shows growing domestic political animus. "When groups hate each other, they more easily believe that the ends justify the means," Haidt added.
(Emphasis Mine)

That's the whole reason for this bullshit. If the other side wins, then it isn't that people who are wrong have won, it is that people who are EVIL have won. That belief explains just about every bad thing that is happening in modern politics, regardless of which side is doing it.

And hatred for those other guys is a very comfortable thing after a while. So don't expect things to get better in our lifetimes. The only way we are ever going to see things improve is when we get to a point where neither side feels that the other side is trying to get them lined up against the wall with blindfolds. I see no sign of that ever happening.
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:31 pm

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by xouper » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:58 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:04 am
This right here is the cause of the problem,

Reporters Become Participants in Tribal Political Warfare

This cuts right to the heart of it
That America's political tribes hate each other is difficult to deny. "If you're wondering why American democracy seems to have decayed so quickly, the graph below gives a big part of the story," social psychologist Jonathan Haidt tweeted in October, pointing to data from political scientists Marc Hetherington and Jonathan that shows growing domestic political animus. "When groups hate each other, they more easily believe that the ends justify the means," Haidt added.
(Emphasis Mine)

That's the whole reason for this bullshit. If the other side wins, then it isn't that people who are wrong have won, it is that people who are EVIL have won. That belief explains just about every bad thing that is happening in modern politics, regardless of which side is doing it.

And hatred for those other guys is a very comfortable thing after a while. So don't expect things to get better in our lifetimes. The only way we are ever going to see things improve is when we get to a point where neither side feels that the other side is trying to get them lined up against the wall with blindfolds. I see no sign of that ever happening.
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by WildCat » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:32 pm

xouper wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:58 pm
I'm willing to try to make things better between you and me. Are you willing?
LOL!

Nyarl projects his own feelings on to others. He truly would kill all his political opponents if he had the chance, and he really believes others would do the same. He has no idea that it really is just him who is the psychotic sociopath.
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by ed » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:14 pm

You say that with a hint of judgement in your tone.
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:24 pm

QED my previous post
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by WildCat » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:34 pm

ed wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:14 pm
You say that with a hint of judgement in your tone.
Ya think?
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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by xouper » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:47 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:24 pm
QED my previous post
Then prove him wrong by making a mutual effort to restore some civility between you and me.

I'm willing. Are you?

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Re: Another day, Another Bloodless Coup Attempt

Post by WildCat » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:55 pm

xouper wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:47 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:24 pm
QED my previous post
Then prove him wrong by making a mutual effort to restore some civility between you and me.

I'm willing. Are you?
He proves me right with every single post.
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