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Re: Windows 10

Postby Rob Lister » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:36 pm

Now, presumable, the deadline to upgrade to Win 10 for free is tomorrow. I'll bet a month of my avatar that gets extended within a month of the expiration.


Looks like Ron is safe ...

ZDNET on 3 Aug wrote:But the reality goes beyond this. It seems Windows users who have not yet updated to Windows 10 can still use any valid Windows 7/8.x retail product key to install Windows 10 as of now on any PC.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10 ... duct-keys/
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Re: Windows 10

Postby corplinx » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:11 pm

Microsoft truly hates end users.

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Re: Windows 10

Postby Grammatron » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:29 pm

Truly.

Or you can turn off the internet. Or you can set up a proxy layer and block Cortana through there.
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Re: Windows 10

Postby Pyrrho » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:21 pm

Rob Lister wrote:
You can't turn off Cortana in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update
Microsoft made an interesting decision with Windows 10’s Anniversary Update, which is now in its final stages of development before it rolls out on August 2.

Cortana, the personal digital assistant that replaced Windows 10’s search function and taps into Bing’s servers to answer your queries with contextual awareness, no longer has an off switch.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3100358/ ... pdate.html

Satya Nadella said in a statement, "All your base truly are belong to us" [/sarc]

Does anyone ... Can anyone believe this will be the final assault?

Now, presumable, the deadline to upgrade to Win 10 for free is tomorrow. I'll bet a month of my avatar that gets extended within a month of the expiration.

Wait...so if I search my machine for JPG files, Cortana is going to check with Bing?
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Re: Windows 10

Postby Grammatron » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:32 pm

Yes.
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Re: Windows 10

Postby Pyrrho » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:26 am

Only if I use Cortana or if I use the File Explorer search also?
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Re: Windows 10

Postby Grammatron » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:49 am

Excellent question.
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Re: Windows 10

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Re: Windows 10

Postby Rob Lister » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:11 pm

Rob Lister wrote:Now, presumable, the deadline to upgrade to Win 10 for free is tomorrow



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Re: Windows 10

Postby Witness » Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:38 pm

Some W10 matter:

Program compatibility

My trusty sidebar launcher worked till 8.1, but the 10 upgrade proved fatal. Tried reinstall, compatibility tweaks, nope.
So I portabilized it with Cameyo (on a clean XP VM) – works splendidly, drag & drop, the full works. And it's now portable!

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(screen border on the right)

Worth a try if you have problems with antique software… :mrgreen:


Getting Safe Boot back

Instructions distilled from some site:

  • Win + X, admin command prompt, type bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 10 Safe Mode" (or any title you fancy);
  • launch msconfig, System configuration, boot tab;
  • select the just created "Windows 10 Safe Mode" entry, tick Safe boot, Minimal & Make all boot settings permanent, click OK.
Same method for implementing other boot options. You may want to diminish the timeout (min. 3 s).

Hope it'll be useful. :wink:

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Re: Windows 10

Postby sparks » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:55 pm

Death to Win10. Long live Win7
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Re: Windows 10

Postby Witness » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:16 am

sparks wrote:Death to Win10. Long live Win7

μSoft will send you an upgrade team:

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Re: Windows 10

Postby asthmatic camel » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:30 am

Witness wrote:
Getting Safe Boot back

Instructions distilled from some site:

  • Win + X, admin command prompt, type bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 10 Safe Mode" (or any title you fancy);
  • launch msconfig, System configuration, boot tab;
  • select the just created "Windows 10 Safe Mode" entry, tick Safe boot, Minimal & Make all boot settings permanent, click OK.
Same method for implementing other boot options. You may want to diminish the timeout (min. 3 s).

Hope it'll be useful. :wink:


Excellent. Thank you.

Edited to add: Or so I thought.

On second reboot my system became inoperable and I had to use every failsafe and backup option I had to get things up and running again. Use with extreme caution!
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Re: Windows 10

Postby Witness » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:58 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:On second reboot my system became inoperable and I had to use every failsafe and backup option I had to get things up and running again. Use with extreme caution!

Sorry to hear that, Asthmatic! :(

For me it worked first time, and still works:

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I'm running W10 home version 1511, build 10586.545.

Perhaps it's time you look into your system's health? I'd go to https://www.sysnative.com/forums/ and describe what happened on the W10 forum. They'll probably send you some small tools & scripts to analyze your machine. At least that's what they did when my laptop started rejecting updates. (Everything runs smoothly since then.)

Or your machine is just jinxed (I blame sparks, of course) and you have to hang some garlic around the screen… :wink:

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Re: Windows 10

Postby asthmatic camel » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:18 pm

It's OK, Witness! I'm the kind of person who makes backups of backups. :D

I got the same screen as above but I think the USB drivers failed to load so I couldn't use mouse or keyboard, then it automatically booted into safe mode and I couldn't do anything! All solved in half an hour but wouldn't have been were I less cautious.
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Re: Windows 10

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:52 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:It's OK, Witness! I'm the kind of person who makes backups of backups. :D


Hey! Me too. :)

It's a symptom of some sort of neurosis, right? :cowbell:
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Re: Windows 10

Postby asthmatic camel » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:19 pm

Reckon so, Abdul, reckon so.

Just out of curiosity, I tried the tweak again and the same thing happened. I think it's likely the USB keyboard and mouse I'm using, I've had problems for years with Windows being flaky installing USB drivers at boot. PS2 forever! (Except this machine only has one PS2 port.)

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Re: Windows 10

Postby Witness » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:36 am

asthmatic camel wrote:Just out of curiosity, I tried the tweak again and the same thing happened.

Added Safe with Network, no problem.

asthmatic camel wrote:[…]I've had problems for years with Windows being flaky installing USB drivers at boot.

I don't know what you mean by "installing drivers at boot". And "for years"! For me it would be priority n° 1 to get rid of that. Now is it really Windows or some hardware? I refer you again to the site I mentioned…

Quite to the contrary all USB stuff works flawlessly on my two W10 machines. I routinely switch from one to the other: Wacom tablet, keyboard (even for the laptop, it's a very pleasant kb), mouse (with cord), mouse (with USB Bluetooth receiver) and of course various HDs, thumbdrives, card readers and my old scanner (driven from a XP VM).

asthmatic camel wrote: :woowoo: :crazy: :corn: :BananaFinger: :pb: :BananaCheers: :woowoo:

A typical day in AC's life, I presume? :mrgreen:
Mine would be more like:

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Re: Windows 10

Postby Witness » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:47 am

P. – S. Windows devolution:

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Re: Windows 10

Postby asthmatic camel » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:06 am

I'm not sure if it's necessarily Windows to blame, Witness but I've found on several machines that USB keyboards and mice often don't work in time to enter BIOS at boot. The tweak above caused the ones I'm using not to work at all!
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