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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:34 pm

And unlike Microsoft's racist stoner chatbot (the first Turing test passer), this one wrote a paper on nuclear physics that is way over the head of current art.

And no one wants to believe it, so they rationalize.

At least that's how I choose to interpret this story. :coolspecs:

Nonsense paper written by iOS autocomplete accepted for conference
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Postby sparks » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:18 pm

These jokers need to actually read the submissions before accepting them. An example of Chump's 'extreme vetting', perhaps.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:35 pm

Turing was a great man, but I'm afraid he got this one wrong.

Passing for human is not an adequate test of conscious intelligence. :)
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Postby Pyrrho » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:06 pm

Don't see how it qualifies as passing the Turing test. Autocomplete != AI.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:39 pm

Pyrrho wrote:Don't see how it qualifies as passing the Turing test. Autocomplete != AI.


Like the Good Soldier Schweik pretending to be stupid while outsmarting those around him?
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Postby Witness » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:51 pm

Abdul's source wrote:He did not have to pay money to submit the paper, but the acceptance letter referred him to register for the conference at a cost of US$1099 (also able to be paid in euros or pounds) as an academic speaker.

Come on, AA, stop trolling us. At that rate they'd even publish your groceries list as a research paper. :roll:

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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:00 am

Just because the AI is a little on the gullible side doesn't mean it failed the Turing test. :BigGrin3:
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Postby JEROME DA GNOME » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:10 am

The dumbing down of humanity has made the current incarnation of the test invalid.
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Postby JEROME DA GNOME » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:16 am

The OP link is an indictment of the peer review system.

100% guarantee, if the title of the paper was something like : Vaccine link to Autism , it would be have not been accepted, no matter how well done the science was.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:26 am

JEROME DA GNOME wrote:The dumbing down of humanity has made the current incarnation of the test invalid.


Oooh! Look who just failed the Turing test. 8)
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:19 pm

And again.

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It seems that human technology has reached a point where we keep breaking the Turing barrier again and again without even trying.

But no one will officially admit it, for one reason or another.
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Postby Nyarlathotep » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:38 pm

I think Turing's mistake was that he expected people to try his test with actual attempts at artificial intelligence, not just cleverly programmed chatbots.
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Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:40 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:I think Turing's mistake was that he expected people to try his test with actual attempts at artificial intelligence, not just cleverly programmed chatbots.


Technical details are not relevant, and neither is intention.

The whole point of the Turing test is that it deliberately sidesteps the philosophical issues about whether something "really" thinks.
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Postby Grammatron » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:38 pm

A simple chat does not prove anything. Where are the double-blind studies of a statistically significant samples of people?
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Postby Rob Lister » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:56 pm

Grammatron wrote:A simple chat does not prove anything. Where are the double-blind studies of a statistically significant samples of people?


If they were up your ass eating a ham and cheese on rye you'd know where they were.

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Postby Grammatron » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:00 pm

Rob Lister wrote:
Grammatron wrote:A simple chat does not prove anything. Where are the double-blind studies of a statistically significant samples of people?


If they were up your ass eating a ham and cheese on rye you'd know where they were.


That doesn't sound kosher at all.
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