American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

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American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:30 pm

While trying to remember the name of that great movie for which I gave for a great review that was greatly received on this great forum, I remembered that it starred Tom Hanks. So I imdb'd Tom Hanks and see that he has announced the production of American Gods.

For those of you that have not read the book
Wiki wrote:American Gods is a Hugo and Nebula Award-winning[1] novel by Neil Gaiman. The novel is a blend of Americana, fantasy, and various strands of ancient and modern mythology, all centring on the mysterious and taciturn Shadow. It is Gaiman's fourth prose novel, preceded by Good Omens (a collaboration with Terry Pratchett), Neverwhere, and Stardust. Several of the themes touched upon in the book were previously glimpsed in The Sandman graphic novels.


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HarperTorch wrote:Shadow is a man with a past. But now he wants nothing more than to live a quiet life with his wife and stay out of trouble. Until he learns that she's been killed in a terrible accident. Flying home for the funeral, as a violent storm rocks the plane, he is greeted by a strange man in the seat next to him. The man calls himself Mr. Wednesday, and he knows more about Shadow than is possible. He warns Shadow that a far bigger storm is coming. And from that moment on, nothing will ever be the same.
Not a great back flap.

Summary:
The central premise of the novel is that gods and mythological creatures exist because people believe in them (a form of thoughtform). Immigrants to the United States brought with them dwarves, elves, leprechauns, and other spirits and gods. However, the power of these mythological beings has diminished as people's beliefs wane. New gods have arisen, reflecting America's obsessions with media, celebrity, technology, and drugs, among others.
The Tobacco God is awesome.

Now I know for certifiable certitude that Naryl has read this.

I guess a good conversational description of the theme is that real flesh and blood gods are instantiated through popular cultural obsessions. There is a god of Fashion, because people obsess over it. Their power is derived through the extent of that obsession. The more people that obsess, the more power Fashion has.

I have not read all of Neil Gaiman works, and that is a good thing. I savor his writing so I have something to live for.

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by ed » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:53 pm

Rob Lister wrote:While trying to remember the name of that great movie for which I gave for a great review that was greatly received on this great forum, I remembered that it starred Tom Hanks.
Given my assessment of your viewing habits it was probably this one

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by ed » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:10 pm

ha ha indeed.
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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Cloverlief » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:03 pm

Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:16 pm

Cloverlief wrote:Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
he might be just producing it. but if he does play a part, then yea, I'm guessing Odin. Certainly not Shadow.

I pictured Oden as short and stocky.

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Cloverlief » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:35 am

Rob Lister wrote:
Cloverlief wrote:Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
he might be just producing it. but if he does play a part, then yea, I'm guessing Odin. Certainly not Shadow.

I pictured Oden as short and stocky.
Hmmm, I pictured him rather as Anthony Hopkin's portrayed him in Thor. Except a little more tricksey.
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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by clarsct » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:32 am

I would be up to see this.

I have read the book....I read a bit of his stuff.
Neverwhere is also a worthy read.

Can't see Hanks as Odin, though. Maybe Loki....


Jim Beaver would be a good Odin....Bobby Singer in Supernatural.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0064769/

Too bad Micheal Clarke Duncan died...woulda made a decent Shadow.
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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Rob Lister » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:48 am

On Tuesday, cable and satellite network Starz announced that it was moving ahead with a series adaptation of Neil Gaiman's 2001 novel American Gods.

The show will be written and produced by Bryan Fuller and Michael Green. Fuller has worked on shows such as Hannibal, Pushing Daisies, and Heroes, and Green is known for his work on The River and Heroes. Gaiman will be an executive producer for the show.

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According to Variety, production of the show will begin as soon as a leading man is found to play Shadow. FremantleMedia North America is the company in charge of production, and it will distribute the series outside of Starz's TV and subscription video on demand (SOVD) rights.
So a series instead of a movie. Much more betterestlyer.

What does Neil have to say about that?
I am thrilled, ‎scared, delighted, nervous and a ball of glorious anticipation. The team that is going to bring the world of ‘American Gods’ to the screen has been assembled like the master criminals in a caper movie: I’m relieved and confident that my baby is in good hands. Now we finally move to the exciting business that fans have been doing for the last dozen years: casting our Shadow, our Wednesday, our Laura.
http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2 ... -on-starz/

So who to play Shadow?

Read the AG wiki to get a better cult view.
http://americangods.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Grammatron » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:57 am

Ian McShane for Odin or bust.

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Rob Lister » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:37 am

Production begins.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1898069/epi ... t_eps_sn_1
Grammatron wrote:Ian McShane for Odin or bust.
How'd you do that?

Yes, Ian for Mr. Wednesday.
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Ricky Whittle for Shadow.
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Emily Browning for Laura Moon.
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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Grammatron » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:00 am

Don't know about the Shadow casting, but I'm not sure who would play him well.

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Grammatron » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:00 pm

Premiers April 30th.

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Witness » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:52 pm

Rob Lister wrote:
Summary:
The central premise of the novel is that gods and mythological creatures exist because people believe in them (a form of thoughtform). Immigrants to the United States brought with them dwarves, elves, leprechauns, and other spirits and gods. However, the power of these mythological beings has diminished as people's beliefs wane. New gods have arisen, reflecting America's obsessions with media, celebrity, technology, and drugs, among others.
The idea isn't new and is the central theme of Jean Ray's Malpertuis. (Old French meaning "bad house".)

English translation:

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Summary: The Greek gods, having lost their powers for lack of believers, are brought back to the Malpertuis house, somewhere in Belgium (presumably Ray's childhood house in the Ham in Ghent). Strange & terrible things ensue, the thinly disguised inhabitants acting according to their mythological persona.

But of course it's not about "new gods" – different story.

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Grammatron » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:56 pm

It's more of an immigration allegory than a mythical showdown. IMO

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:23 pm

And the trailer ...
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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon May 01, 2017 8:56 am

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by ed » Mon May 01, 2017 10:39 am

Rob Lister wrote:
Cloverlief wrote:Hmmm would Hanks play Odin? I did so like that book.
he might be just producing it. but if he does play a part, then yea, I'm guessing Odin. Certainly not Shadow.

I pictured Oden as short and stocky.
Typical microaggression.
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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by ed » Mon May 01, 2017 10:43 am

Rob Lister wrote:.

I guess a good conversational description of the theme is that real flesh and blood gods are instantiated through popular cultural obsessions. There is a god of Fashion, because people obsess over it. Their power is derived through the extent of that obsession. The more people that obsess, the more power Fashion has.
This is clearly wrong courtesy of the Sniff Test (tm). As such the central pemise is flawed and therefore the whole thing is unwatchable.

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Re: American Gods: Preproduction Discussion

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed May 03, 2017 11:23 am

So I watched the premiere.

Looks interesting, but weird. In a good way.
Spoiler:
Some old Jewish guy named Wednesday is one of the Gods. And some vaguely Hispanic guy who says he's a leprechaun. Also a sexy black woman who draws power (and youth) by shrinking old white guys and shoving them up her pussy. And an annoying young white hacker dude.
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