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Childhood's End

Postby sparks » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:24 am

I see where SyFy is doing this one, starts next Monday I bleeve.

I shall report back after the first episode and let you know.



Should be good provided they don't fuck with the original story too much.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Doctor X » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:14 am

I am not sure how the robot flying piranha-sloth hybrids fits the story. . . .

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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Nyarlathotep » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:39 am

They also start The Expanse the same day. Gonna watch both.

I hear tell that SyFy is trying to reinvent itself again, more classic hard science fiction. I have my doubts, but we'll see. I hope they are going in that direction anyway. I find it about as unlikely as MTV showing a music video or TLC showing something educational though.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:46 am

I see no reason why there shouldn't be a niche for science fiction on TV. A good-sized one too.
Only problem is producing good Sci-Fi probably costs a large budget, whereas one of those stupid "reality TV" programs costs very little to produce. If the ratings are similar, the one that costs less to produce is more profitable.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Doctor X » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:50 am

Anaxagoras wrote:Only problem is producing good Sci-Fi probably costs a large budget, whereas one of those stupid "reality TV" programs costs very little to produce. If the ratings are similar, the one that costs less to produce is more profitable.


You pretty much summarize what happened to the "Science Fiction Channel," the "History Channel," "Arts & Entertainment," "Discovery Channel," and "The Learning Channel."

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Re: Childhood's End

Postby sparks » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:21 am

They all are children of the parent company soon to be knows as The Speculation Network.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby gnome » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:53 am

Childhood's End almost put me off Arthur C. Clarke.

I HOPE they fuck with the original story.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Rob Lister » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:52 am

gnome wrote:Childhood's End almost put me off Arthur C. Clarke.

I HOPE they fuck with the original story.


Really!? I liked it much.

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Re: Childhood's End

Postby gnome » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:24 am

Take your pick:

Spoiler:
Be a part of a collective mind bearing no resemblance to humanity as you know it, or fade away and die on your obsolete homeworld even after learning there's a whole big inhabited universe out there. Only you don't get to pick either. I found that way too damn depressing.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby sparks » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:11 am

With Rob on this one: It was a helluva good book. Not all stories get to have/need a happy ending.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby ed » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:51 am

Good book without the signature Clarke snarky social commentary.

Rob is, for once, right.

Very sad book though.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby gnome » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:54 am

I'm usually OK with sad ending. This one just wasn't for me.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby ed » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:11 pm

So you liked Love Story then?

Homo.

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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Rob Lister » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:18 pm

gnome wrote:I'm usually OK with sad ending. This one just wasn't for me.


Well then. There it is. Proof that you are narrow and shallow like the piss stream of an old man with a swollen prostate pissing down a slightly sloping incline.

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Re: Childhood's End

Postby ed » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:58 pm

He is a girlie-man who is selective.

Pathetic.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Rob Lister » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:02 pm

ed wrote:He is a girlie-man who is selective.

Pathetic.


I hear he has had many women.

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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:07 pm

Here's my fan theory, which I came up with right after I finished the book (as a teenager).

It mentions in the book that if it weren't for the Overlords, humans would have ended up like the Overlords.

So basically, the evil Overlords destroyed Mankind to eliminate the competition.

The Overmind is some sort of alien mind eater of no particular moral character that was manipulated by the Overlords. The mystical shit about the Overmind was just the Overlords' diabolical propaganda to ruin us, which succeeded.

Devils indeed.

This theory enabled me to preserve my view of Clarke as a "hard science" type. :coolspecs:
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby ed » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:37 pm

Your fan theory sucks.
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:49 pm

ed wrote:Your fan theory sucks.


So go join the Overmind if you're so smart. :P
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Re: Childhood's End

Postby ed » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:07 pm

Ooooh oooooh he used a Clarke allusion to insult me.
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