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Murder on the Orient Express

Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:35 pm

I finally got around to seeing it last night at the cheap theater. It was an excellent movie, surprised it didn't do better at the box office. Kenneth Branagh played Hercule Poirot as kind of a jerk, but a very different kind of jerk genius than we see in the likes of Sherlock Holmes. He was just really fussy and fastidious rather than being socially inept and mean. That made him kind of interesting. Plus his epic mustache was a thing to behold. If I a genie granted me three wishes, one of them would be to have a mustache like that. Lots of other good performance by great actors in the cast too. But Branagh was the stand out.

The movie's visuals were great too. Lots of spectacular mountain shots, city scapes, and some interesting ways of dealing with the fact that much of the action takes place in train cars that are only 10 feet wide or so, but you have to get a bunch of actors into the scene.

Won't go too much into the plot, because that would give things away. But if you have read the novel (or even looked it up on Wikipedia) you know "whodunnit" and why. And it raised an interesting dilemma but I can't really talk about it without spoiling it.

Very good movie over all.
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Re: Murder on the Orient Express

Post by ed » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:45 pm

There was a funny episode of Toast of London where the main guy gets a gig playing in the Mousetrap (Moosetrap in the show) and tells whodunnit on a tv interview. The rest of the show revolves around the outrage he engenders by giving away the plot for a thing that ran for 50 year in the west end. AC probably saw in on opening day.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:48 pm

Have you seen the earlier movie of same?

How does it compare?
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:53 pm

I just don't want to give it away because since the movie just came out, it is very possible that lots of people may be encountering the story for the first time with this movie. But the killer and the reason are the same as in the book (and, I assume, the same as in older adapations of the book, but I haven't seen any of those in decades)

I will say this. I read somewhere that Agatha Christie took an interesting approach to her mysteries. Instead of doing what one would expect, and deciding on a killer beforehand then writing the book so that the clues pointed at that person, she would just write the story with no particular ending in mind. Then when she got to the end, she would look back at the story, decide at THAT point who seemed most likely to be the killer, and sprinkle in clues and such pointing at that person in her second and subsequent drafts.

If that's true, she must have had a hell of a time when she got to the end of the first draft of this one.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:55 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Have you seen the earlier movie of same?

How does it compare?
The one with Peter Ustinov?

I have but it has literally been at least 20 years, maybe 30. So I don't remember it all that well. It's the same story. And this was a far more visually interesting movie. I don't really remember that much about Ustinov's Poirot, so I can't really compare him to Branaugh, might have to do a compare and contrast next weekend
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:59 pm

I was thinking of the one with Albert Finney as Hercule Poirot.

IIRC Ingrid Bergman was in it.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:09 pm

I don't think I saw the '70s one, which is the one you are talking about, no.
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Post by gnome » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:50 pm

It should be an interesting experience for me, as I think my only exposure to the story was a parody presented as a school play. I played the dead guy, which was not much of a stretch of my acting abilities.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:17 pm

Go see it, if its still playing somewhere near you. If not, I am sure it will be on DVD/Netflix/Whatevs fairly soon
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Re: Murder on the Orient Express

Post by gnome » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:06 pm

If I'm picking between that one and Jumanji?
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:57 pm

Tough choice. Jumanji was far better than it had any right to be (I was absolutely not expecting to find it even tolerable, much less enjoyable, but I enjoyed the hell out of it. Remake + Jack Black were two strikes against it right out of the gate). I guess it depends on your mood and how much you feel you can tolerate kids in the theater. When I went to see it, Jumanji had lots of kids in the theater.

If I had to pick one and only one, I would probably go with Murder. YMMV
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Re: Murder on the Orient Express

Post by gnome » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:19 pm

Those two strikes don't hit me very hard. I more or less see it as a different story under the same umbrella of the "Jumanji" concept. Kind of like the "Loknar" was the uniting factor in the different stories of Heavy Metal.

Also, I like Jack Black anyway.

Maybe I'll see both.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:30 pm

Actually, it turned out to be a sequel not a remake anyway. But I didn't know that going in (the trailers made it look like a remake). And much to my surprise, Jack Black turned out to be one of the best parts of the film. Normally, if I find myself like a Jack Black movie its despite him, he never adds to my enjoyment of the film. But I think this role was just the sort of thing he is perfect for.

But yeah, see both.
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Re: Murder on the Orient Express

Post by ed » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:49 pm

He was good in long kong
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:25 pm

ed wrote:He was good in long kong
Never saw that. The only other movie of his I liked was Nacho Libre, which I think I liked despite, rather than because of, him.
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Re: Murder on the Orient Express

Post by gnome » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:29 pm

Didn't like School of Rock? That one used him best, I think.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:30 pm

Nope. In fact I think that was what first put me off of him
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Post by Grammatron » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:33 am

Watched it on whim without remembering the story. Interesting twist.

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