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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Witness » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:17 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco.
Read that years ago; pleasant. But the superficiality of the ("classical European") woo background buttressing the story undermined my belief in Eco as a universal polymath.

He has written extremely boring stuff on semiotics, but his Diario minimo (Misreadings in English) is a delightful collection of short parodies and learned jokes. Recommend.

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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:24 pm

"Universal polymath" ?

Who cares? :BigGrin3:
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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Witness » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:12 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:"Universal polymath" ?

Who cares? :BigGrin3:
I also prefer decent physics in my Sci-Fi. :P

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Re: Recommend readings

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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:27 am

Witness wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:"Universal polymath" ?

Who cares? :BigGrin3:
I also prefer decent physics in my Sci-Fi. :P
Me too.

What does that have to do with Eco doing what amounts to Lovecraft shtick? He does it better than Lovecraft. 8)
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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Witness » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:47 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:What does that have to do with Eco doing what amounts to Lovecraft shtick? He does it better than Lovecraft. 8)
Not the same thing, in my opinion. Lovecraft is mostly into fantasy, while Eco wrote something mimicking a historical novel. As in hard SciFi, where your grasp of the quantum-gravitational paramagnetic interocitor better be over pop-cultural level, I expected (mostly from preceding readings, and his reputation) Eco's esoteric ramblings to be based on more than just what you can scrape from a cursory perusal of some basic literature on the subject.

Of course my expectations are my responsibility – but I didn't buy any other of his books. :mrgreen:

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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:10 pm

Wait a minute.

I forgot one author you must read.

https://www.steynonline.com/8512/hammer-and-tongues :BigGrin3:
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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Witness » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:47 am

Can we also discommend books (avoiding boring reads and all that)? :P

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Re: Recommend readings

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Re: Recommend readings

Post by ed » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:27 pm

I recently read Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls.

Turgid, smugly self-satisfied, dated, unrewarding, banal.

I was extremely disappointed.

He affected this pseudo formal English to replace the Spanish spoken by the characters "Thee and thou" and antique sentence constructions. I guess you could not print cusses and vulgarities back then so he uses circumlocutions likes "Thou devourer of the manhood of the donkey"

What began as silly after a bit it came across as really affected. Try that for 275 pages.

I read some of his other stuff ages ago. I had some fond memories of him so I will go back but at the moment, I am in recovery.
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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:10 pm

Anything by Ambrose Bierce. :coolspecs:

Ape and Essence by Aldous Huxley. Post apocalypse, a boatload of explorers from New Zealand "discover" California.

Where the people have mutated to have a once a year mating season and the persecuted minority is the "hots" (people who are always ready for love).
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Re: Recommend readings

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:12 pm

Island by Aldous Huxley. A behaviorist "paradise" in the South Pacific.

In a way, a definitive refutation of Brave New World.
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