Grammatron wrote:A good friend of mine's family owned season tickets starting all the way back to 1946 when they moved to Los Angeles from Cleveland.
Personally, I find the idea of this concept silly. I am a fan of all Los Angeles teams, but they have to prove to me that they are trying to win -- looking at you Clippers -- otherwise why care?
"My Local Team is Better than YOUR Local Team!" That "living through someone else crap aside," way back when you wanted to hear music you tossed a servant in the general direction of some musicians and they played with far too much brass, teams were "local." But that is no longer. I just saw a Pats player give an interview where he "apologized" sarcastically for being from L.A. and a F
Laker fan. Heck, SB Winning Pat Now Sports Talking Head with ADD Christian "SQUIRREL!" Fauria is a devoted Lakers fan as well and loves to "poke" his partner who was a long-time Celtics commentator--tried to keep Johnny Most sober "just long enough!"--by promoting "Magic" over "Biiiiiiiirrrrddd!"
They respond by reminding him that "Vrabel was better!"
Brady was a 'Niner's fan growing up.
Schilling is a devote Steelers fan, but hating, and beating, the MFYs excuses a lot of sins.
Anyways, back to your point, I think a "Local Team" has to care about the region more than as an excuse to "make money." Bob Kraft was "Local," was a season ticket holder when you could not give away tickets for another 2-12 season, and did act to prevent the team from moving. He is one guy.
The rest? Most do not give a shit. They want to make their money. Okay, I am a bit cynical. Some do care, try to contribute to the community, but it is rare. The Clippers, as you indicate, was one long "I just need to make money" from a horrible owner. The Sullivans--first owners of the Pats--might have been "local," but they were incompetent and remained such.
The Yawkeys who owned the Red Sox and were
the "Curse of the Bambino" similarly did not give a shit about their fans. His and then his wife and "Trust"'s basic attitude was one of "they will come anyway."
So I do definitely agree with you regarding a team earning respect. The Pats have about 0 respect until Kraft took over. He made moves that suggested he gave an actual shit about winning
rather than racking in $$$. But when you consistently have a team of incompetents running a show and wanting you to pay for it, you can understand why fans give up.
When Rams moved back here, drafted a QB, hired a competent FO and coaches, and showed everyone they intent to compete for the prize, I was more than happy to follow and make it a point to watch their games. I would go to see them live, but the stadium they plan in is horrible. It has no shade and day games happen in temperature that is in the 90's. Why subject oneself to such torture? When the new stadium is finished I might get some season tickets.
You should have been to the old "Sullivan/Shaefer Stadium" which is first like driving into Los Angeles on a two-lane road, to sit in an open field on hard steel, and buy what your Mad Uncle pissed into a cup as your beer--available only because it owned the stadium or something equally stupid. I was there once as a Wee Spud and I still cannot feel my ass.
In a strange way, I do think owners merely rent
a franchise. Modell was a greedy cunt for moving the Browns. Yes . . . yes . . . yes . . . YES . . . I know, but he was still just a greedy cunt. In a rare Moment of Humanity, His Not Yet Merciful Dark Hoodie contacted one of the leaders of the "Dog Pound"--who excoriated him in a time where that required an effort given no interwebs--to apologize
for not winning. To this guy's surprise, Belichick was very upset he "failed" in Cleveland and hated the idea of the move.
The Current Cunt Owner of the Lambs simply wanted a team for $$$. He wanted the Pats. He could not get them. So he got the Lambs. I often joked that his "commitment to excellence" could be summarized by hiring Jeff Fischer. Anyways, as I heard too many times from Lambs Fans over beers--aside from "THE PATS CHEATING!!11!!!
"--hey, sorry Marshall Faulk turned out to be a pussy--the owner made some really, really, REALLY horrendous decisions that sank the team.
I guess simply moving was a way to "start over."
In the smog.