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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Doctor X » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:42 pm

Radrick wrote:Mulligan. You pick a team to lose, but not real confident. So you choose to use your mulligan. You choose a alternate team. At the half your 1st pick is winning. Your mulligan kicks in and at the half your alternate pick is now your pick regardless of the score of alternate pick. Your alternate pick can be the opposing team in your 1st choice or a completely different team.


Having talked with him the idea is to introduce risk to the Mulligan. His example was NE-Denver--say you picked Denver to lose but declare a "mulligan" of . . . I do not know . . . the Pirates against the Cubs. Since Indy is beating NE by 24 points at the half you default to your "mulligan." Whether or not your Mulligan "wins" you do not get "back" Denver.

Or: Doctor X Extra Greedy Bonus: everyone gets, once, a second pick. Yes, you can pick both teams of one team to guarantee points--unless there is a tie! We pick losers, not tiers! Or a riskier player could pick the NE-Denver and SF-Sea games . . . if he "wins" he could get like 24 points rather than 13 . . . or he could get nothing. Obviously that is a one-time. I can add a ⎙ or something to the players and remove when it is taken.

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Tiosylanyl » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:52 pm

Is his suggestion taking my original premise, but introducing a way to deal with the couchpotatoeswithoutanythngbettertodo that you mentioned earlier?

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Doctor X » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:19 am

Sort of. I mentioned what you wrote. He would like to keep an element of risk.

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby gnome » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:12 am

You mentioned once... and I think it has merit... to have the previous year's champion be able to name the team the Meanie Points center around.

I would ask for tradition's sake that it still be named the ExtraEvidencesDr.XMeaniebonus and Doctor X is a MEANIE Point bonuses.

If we implement that, what of the DoNotJudgeOthersbyYourStandardsCHARLEY_BIGTIMEbonus rule, however?
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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby gnome » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:25 am

Some other random ideas, may be fun, may be dumb:

In the rain bonus: if someone earns points for a game, they get +1 point if it rained at the location of the field during the game. (that way covered stadiums aren't immune).

or, some other reason to give +1 having nothing to do with actual rain. I just like the name of the rule.

Friendship and Ponies bonus: I'm not sure what "n" should be set at, but +2 for owning a team that starts the season at 0-n (losing streak) but makes it to the playoffs anyway. "They could still make it!!!!" should be the idea here. How many games can you lose and still technically have a possible playoff slot?
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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Doctor X » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:34 am

Well, technically, you lose nine games and make the playoffs in that teams have won a division with a 7-9 record. 8-8 is more common. However, given scheduling, a team might just eliminate itself because of loses in the division. For example, if you have an "unbalanced" schedule in that you play the same division team twice prior to Week 8 and lose both, you have to imagine epic collapses to overcome tie-breaker. This is why 10-6/11-5 teams do not make the playoffs some years. So I am not sure "what" number would work.

An NFL historian could probably tell what was the worse opening to make a play-off. The worse record to make a playoff is still the 7-9 Seamen who won their Division! They also won their Wild Card home game to?

The Faints


However:

Using the league alignment and scheduling instituted by the NFL in 2002, it is possible for all four teams in a division to be 3-13; one of them will have to be the winner. In this scenario, each team loses 4 inter-conference games and 6 intra-conference games for 10 total losses. Additionally, each team in the division splits with each other divisional opponent for 3 more losses.

It is also possible to win the division with a 0-10-6 record. Each team must tie in all games with divisional opponents, then lose the rest of their games. One team will win a tie breaker and win the division. It is very unlikely, but theoretically possible. Imagine that, a team makes the playoffs with no wins!

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The various MEANIE points are sort of a tradition. RCC started it to tweak me against the Patriots. He also refused to recognize Thursday games which was, frankly, idiotic given the NFL's attempts to put premier games on Thursday . . . even though they fail. Could you imagine NOT picking on Thanksgiving? Anyways, when I took over I decided to tweak the Squealer fans such as Charley as well as add a balance given I would not pick NE. If you review the games I have tested the the effects of the MP. NOT being able to pick the Pats is a greater detriment than having the Meanie Points.

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I could consider letting a winner pick a
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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby gnome » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:50 am

Fasciniating stats!

As far as the potential value of "n" I would settle on something that is rare but achievable. If it never, ever happens except that one time, it's not much use putting it in. In my mind I see something that occurs maybe one in three years.
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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Doctor X » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:04 pm

I could certainly institute a My Coward Bitch Siobhán Bonus where every time a player makes him cry and wet himself we all get a point.

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Postby Malfie Henpox » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:07 pm

Pffft. NFL players couldn't even make a whoopsy cry.

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Postby Doctor X » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:44 pm

Everyone gets a point!

A RIVER to my people!

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Postby Malfie Henpox » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:56 pm

And another! I must have a bladder like a traction engine!

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Doctor X » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:29 am

But then, I would need an extra-pair of hands to count up all of the points every time I sent My Bitch into an incontinent tantrum.

Never mind. Too much math.

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Got me on ignore yet, treacle toes? Soon. X

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Doctor X » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:02 am

So now that My Bitch is crying over multiple threads, returning to the business at hand we have:

    Mulligan: see various forms above.

    Tiosyde Bonus: if your team has a coach and/or GM fired by Brack Fliday . . . sorry . . . "Japanese Original" . . . Black Friday you get 1-2 points. Before the "Mid-Point"--arbitrarily Week 8-9--3-5 points. Exact points to be discussed. Resignation does not count. I would count what happened with the Texans: fire a coach then fire the interim coach as separate events worth t3h pointage! :hyper:

    Doctor X The Humble Yet [Get on with it!--Ed.] Greedy Bonus: once during the regular season you may pick two games. Perhaps the same game twice to guarantee a win. Of course, as "smart player" who gets two great teams basically picks up tons of points! :eager:

    To the Victor Goes the MEANIES I like the MEANIE points for NE and then Steelers. People have asked about players also having a MEANIE team. I thought of letting the winner not only pick the theme but pick a team that EITHER gains him a point if you pick against it--like My MEANIE POINTS--which are mine--OR like the Charley/NE where beating the Steelers/NE gives you an extra point.

    The only problem with that is it may give the really good player an extra advantage.

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Re: The NFL "Sorry to Make You Cry" Suggestion Thrad

Postby Tiosylanyl » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:44 am

Doctor X wrote:
Tiosyde Bonus: if your team has a coach and/or GM fired by Brack Fliday . . . sorry . . . "Japanese Original" . . . Black Friday you get 1-2 points. Before the "Mid-Point"--arbitrarily Week 8-9--3-5 points. Exact points to be discussed. Resignation does not count. I would count what happened with the Texans: fire a coach then fire the interim coach as separate events worth t3h pointage! :hyper:


The only problem I have with the "mid-point" is that coach firings at any point during the regular season tend to be pretty rare, usually limited to teams that are eliminated from playoff contention really early. Most firings tend to take place on the day following the conclusion of Week 17, which is why I think the 3-5 points should apply to any firings that occur during the full regular season, with the 1-2 points being awarded for firings occurring from the conclusion of the final game of the regular season through the end of the Super Bowl.

If you insist a mid-point in the regular season I would then suggest week 13 as that usually serves as the end of the "regular" season for Fantasy Football.


Doctor X wrote:Doctor X The Humble Yet [Get on with it!--Ed.] Greedy Bonus: once during the regular season you may pick two games. Perhaps the same game twice to guarantee a win. Of course, as "smart player" who gets two great teams basically picks up tons of points! :eager:


I'd do this OR the mulligan, but not both. I actually like this better.

Doctor X wrote:To the Victor Goes the MEANIES I like the MEANIE points for NE and then Steelers. People have asked about players also having a MEANIE team. I thought of letting the winner not only pick the theme but pick a team that EITHER gains him a point if you pick against it--like My MEANIE POINTS--which are mine--OR like the Charley/NE where beating the Steelers/NE gives you an extra point.

The only problem with that is it may give the really good player an extra advantage.


If you were to implement this as a feature, I'd say that the person shouldn't be able to pick up the team generating their MEANIE POINTS, in the same manner as you with NE.

My concern with this is if it is YOU who wins [Boo Hiss!--Ed.] you would then have two teams that generate MEANIE POINTS for you.


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