Pete Rose wants a second chance

Never agree to 3 points on top of the vig.

Did he ever shave (or cause to have shaved) a single point

Probably
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67%
Not likely
1
17%
Everybody shaves points on Planet X
1
17%
 
Total votes: 6

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Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:23 pm

http://www.si.com/mlb/2014/08/21/rob-ma ... ond-chance
"I've been led to believe America is a forgiving country, and if you do the right things – keep your nose clean, be a good citizen, pay your taxes, do all the things you're supposed to do – eventually you'll get a second chance," Rose said.


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Re: Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by Rob Lister » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:39 pm

You should turn this into a poll.

Did he ever shave (or cause to have shaved) a single point
Probably
Not likely
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I know that nobody is outright accusing him of that, but really, absent that potential, there'd be no rule against what he did so he wouldn't be in the doghouse he's in.

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Re: Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:43 pm

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Re: Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by Rob Lister » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:20 pm

I had to vote yes.

My standard of proof here is my gut.

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Re: Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by shemp » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:57 pm

Rob Lister wrote:I had to vote yes.

My standard of proof here is my gut.


That's a mighty big standard of proof.
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Re: Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by Doctor X » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:04 pm

Well, "let us review the catechism":

    1. keep your nose clean, FAIL--broke the rules and the law until caught.
    2. be a good citizen, FAIL--denied breaking the rules until the last year of his eligibility for the Hall of Fame
    3. pay your taxes, BWA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!--went to jail for . . . anyone?
    4. do all the things you're supposed to do, EPIC FAIL--lied consistency . . . in his "Prison Without Walls."

Thank you for playing! If alive, Don Pardo would tell you about your wonderful consolation prizes:

The chance to sit outside the Hall of Fame and sell your autographs to idiots who think your saturation of the autograph market does not make theirs worthless!
Get to sit with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens outside of the Hall of Fame . . . and sell your autographs to idiots. . . .
The MLB Home Game!
Rice-a-Roni! "That San Francisco Treat!"
A year's supply of Turtle Wax!

Fuck him.

The only tragedy of all of this is we never saw how Bart Giamatti would have handled the steroid era.

I have little sympathy for such. If "I were in Control!" I would flush the "Hall of Fame" of a number of members--first would be Thomas "Get Those Nig[CENSORED--Ed.]ers Off My Field!" Yawkey.

So get this! You can cheat. You can break the "one unbreakable rule" regarding gambling that is suppose to help keep the game not become like European Pansyball. Whether or not anyone wants to believe the "evidences"--thanks!--that he may or may not have managed to influence outcomes he bet on his team. EVERY bookie he dealt with knew he bet on his team.

Guess what they knew every day he did not bet on his team?

You can stone wall until the evidence buries you. You can deny and deny for years and try to curry sympathy.

Then?

One day you cry into a camera and "all if forgiven" because you lacked the opportunity to cheat and lie for a few years.

And you get rewarded.

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Re: Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:08 pm

Did he shave points? I think not.

Should he be in the Hall of Fame? I also think not.
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Re: Pete Rose wants a second chance

Post by ed » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:12 pm

Pyrrho wrote:http://www.si.com/mlb/2014/08/21/rob-manfred-pete-rose-wants-second-chance
"I've been led to believe America is a forgiving country, and if you do the right things – keep your nose clean, be a good citizen, pay your taxes, do all the things you're supposed to do – eventually you'll get a second chance," Rose said.


"I want what I gotta get!"


He is forgiven. He has a second chance. Is he going to try out for the majors again?
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