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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:23 pm

So Colin Kaepernick is good for business, but only if he is not allowed to play. :)
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by ed » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:24 pm

I have not followed this and I don't give a rats ass for overpaid steroid junkies but I would like to observe that standing during any national anthem is simply good manners.

When these elite fuckers "protest" the same way in Iran or some other shithole where there might actually be a risk to their manicure, I'll start taking them seriously.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by gnome » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:19 pm

I'd just say, why don't we fire the ones with more serious offenses than rudeness, before we get in a twist about Mr. Kaepernick?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:23 pm

I still want to know where to get some of those cop pig socks.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by ed » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:26 pm

gnome wrote:I'd just say, why don't we fire the ones with more serious offenses than rudeness, before we get in a twist about Mr. Kaepernick?
Fire them all. They are a waste of oxygen. Let them get a real job, like something that relys on their college education.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:26 am



:roll:

Gee, what a terrible "sacrifice." I wonder how much Nike is paying him? Something in the millions? :roll:

Of course, it's a free country and if Nike thinks that this is what will sell sneakers, they are welcome to spend their advertising dollars as they see fit . . .
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Doctor X » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:05 am

He was always a willfully ignorant overrated.

Still:
Republicans buy shoes too.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:29 am

Doctor X wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:05 am
He was always a willfully ignorant overrated.

Still:
Republicans buy shoes too.

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And the irony is that Michael Jordan was probably Nike's most important athlete/celebrity/endorser for years, perhaps decades.

I'm sure their bean counters must have done the math on this though. Perhaps their actual customer base skews liberal.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Doctor X » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:44 am

Meh.

If he does not sell, they will dump him. Move on to the next Flavor of the Month.

These guys grab at and dump sports starts every week.

Just keep remembering him loving the homicidal Cunt Castro and wearing "pig" socks.

On the other side is a bunch of degenerate "lucky sperm" owners who have collectively done worse than Kaepernick could ever hope to achieve in his most wettest of dreams, led by one of the luckiest of sperms who, despite failing miserably, is paid more than Gram's Mom sucks--see what I did there? I am clever!-- any of us will collectively see in a thousand years . . . to . . . fail.

Opposing them?

People whose careers last 3-5 years and have yet to grasp the concept of multiplication.

So even in this case the owners have screwed it up so severely, I am almost rooting for this ignorant fool to beat them.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:44 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
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Perhaps their actual customer base skews liberal.
Their customer base skews African American.

This is not a controversial statement, but I will not predict precisely how it plays with Kaepernick.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:05 pm

Oooh SNAP!

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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:31 am

I basically agree with Shapiro on this one. I think he clarifies the marketing logic too:
But this whole charade is a profit grab. That’s fine, but let’s recognize it for what it is. Nike is a corporation. This is free publicity, and the company can virtually guarantee that the president of the United States will sound off about the controversy, generating a pro-Nike backlash. What’s more, Nike’s marketing department is catering to a particular audience: black Americans are far more likely than non-black Americans to support Kaepernick (69 percent of black Americans said protests during the national anthem were appropriate, as opposed to 58 percent of white Americans who say such protests are always inappropriate); black Americans spend, on average, more money than white Americans on clothing and apparel; black Americans are far more likely to demand that the brands they support back social causes, and they’re also far more likely to interact with brands on social media, according to Nielsen.

And backlash? Nike’s counting on it. They understand that boycotts are generally overstated and small, that President Donald Trump is wildly unpopular, and that Trump jumping into this fray would merely allow them to pose as socially conscious political actors, even as they weather charges of labor exploitation in impoverished countries.

Capitalism always wins. Even politics can be turned into a commodity—especially politics. People love to signal their supposed virtue to others. There’s a reason that those on the Left buy Priuses rather than similarly environmentally-friendly vehicles that don’t look like bizarre bubbles: you can’t show your friends you care about the environment when you’re driving a car that doesn’t obviously show off your bona fides. Nike is hoping for a similar effect.
So far, Trump's reaction has been sort of low key. He said something about it in an interview with The Daily Caller, calling it a "terrible message", so that's a sort of "backlash", but he hasn't tweeted about it yet as far as I can tell from a quick glance at his Twitter feed. Perhaps he recognized the bait for what it was and decided not to take it?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Doctor X » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:15 am

Indeed.

Nike hopes they will become the "symbol of resistance," purchased by idiots who should be resisting corporate greed like Nike's.

Meanwhile, Kaepernick has been suffering from his 30 million + this new contract. I agree with Jason Witlock: he is as much of a "hero" as Bruce Jenner.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:22 pm

That's it!

Nike isn't just "virtue signalling" . It's a gamble that Trump would denounce them big time.

Then you would have to buy Nikes to prove you're not a Nazi, and sales would go up driven by lefties who wouldn't normally wear fancy sneakers.

But Trump let them down. :)
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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by Grammatron » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:50 pm

Great, now I have to worry about what shoes to wear because the company might have a social justice campaign

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Re: Colin Kaepernick

Post by xouper » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:17 am

This just in (from Wednesday evening) another point of view, from a business person:

Tucker Carlson Kaepernick's "Sacrifice" Nike Commercial To Run During NFL Opener (3:36)



Tucker Carlson: "Was that smart, Dave?"

Dave Portnoy: "By Nike? I do. I think it will pay off."

Later . . .

Tucker Carlson: "How are you [Nike] helping the cause of civil rights?"

Dave Portnoy: "I don't think they [Nike] care about civil rights. I think they care about selling shoes. . . . This is a business decision."

Portnoy makes a good argument from a business and demographics perspective. Apparently Tucker Carlson did not see that one coming.

Disclaimer: This latest PR move by Nike has not altered my shoe buying preferences nor my investment strategy, so clearly, I am not Nike's target market and thus my opinion does not matter.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick

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