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| Eos of the Eons |
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http://www.nap.edu/sec
| Quote: | Regrettably, effective science
education in our schools is being undermined by efforts to introduce non-scientific concepts about evolution into science classrooms. |
Most already know this well, but I nonetheless enjoyed the presentation of information. The 8 page pdf is free to download with no need to register. http://books.nap.edu/html/11876/SECbrochure.pdf |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:53 am |
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Good stuff.
Although, in the scientific realms, there really isn't any controversy. Only when the cameras are on do these tiny-minded wipers of other people's bottoms come out of the woodwork. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:26 am |
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| Abdul Alhazred |
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| clarsct wrote: | | ... tiny-minded wipers of other people's bottoms ... |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:14 pm |
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| Cool Hand |
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| Abdul Alhazred wrote: | | clarsct wrote: | | ... tiny-minded wipers of other people's bottoms ... |
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Oh, give credit where credit is due. Clarsct is quoting John Cleese from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. As if anyone on the internet didn't already know that...
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pillory is nice that way at least he relies what self concentrated man he is.....he just ought to be nice to Mr.Skinny.......and somehow turned it to himself.......that's not nice .....but it is funny that ashhole like him even realises it.....
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:13 pm |
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| Cool Hand wrote: | | Abdul Alhazred wrote: | | clarsct wrote: | | ... tiny-minded wipers of other people's bottoms ... |
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Oh, give credit where credit is due. Clarsct is quoting John Cleese from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. As if anyone on the internet didn't already know that...
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Here I thought he was complimenting the oh-so-appropriate use of the phrase.... |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:58 pm |
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| Cool Hand |
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| clarsct wrote: | | Cool Hand wrote: | | Abdul Alhazred wrote: | | clarsct wrote: | | ... tiny-minded wipers of other people's bottoms ... |
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Oh, give credit where credit is due. Clarsct is quoting John Cleese from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. As if anyone on the internet didn't already know that...
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Here I thought he was complimenting the oh-so-appropriate use of the phrase.... |
Oh yes, it was. In that case, take a bow, Sir. It was a good and witty usage.
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pillory is nice that way at least he relies what self concentrated man he is.....he just ought to be nice to Mr.Skinny.......and somehow turned it to himself.......that's not nice .....but it is funny that ashhole like him even realises it.....
-- pillory in a "say something nice about the poster above you" thread, to himself
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| Eos of the Eons |
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Okay, back on track... the article outlines what is and is not science. Something that others wish to blur the lines of nowadays. I hear in Australia they have enjoyed a period where politicians are frowned on if they try to use religion as a step-up. Here in America it seems to be a requirement to be uber religious to get votes.
However, in Australia they figure far more medical woo woo is running rampant. I find that hard to believe, since ear candling and feedback machines are so common here. There's even homeopathy in all the stores now, even in baby sections here (Hyland's prodcuts, Arnica, Boiron).
A debate over whether the same kind of thinking (non-critical) makes people susceptible to medical woo woo is the same kind of thinking that makes people susceptible to religious woo woo and antiscience sentiments.
I figure it's one and the same. The lack of education in science makes everyone susceptible in believing the earth is only 6 thousand years old or belieiving magic diluted stuff can help diaper rash.
Science is poo pooed by woo woos no matter what the topic. The homeopath woo woo says science can't explain everything. The religious woo woo says science can't explain everything. Same story, same result in the end. And most people eat it up and say they don't care that SCIENCE "says" the opposite of what is claimed by woo woos.
It doesn't matter who bashes science or tries to blur the lines of science. The result is the same, meaning they get people to buy into their products. |
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Motion affecting a measuring device does not affect what is actually being measured, except to inaccurately measure it. -Eos
"the immaterial world doesn' t matter, cause it ain't matter" -Jeff Corey
I like my men already wounded and full of biting sarcasm. -SamanthaMc
"You are free to be an idiot. I choose not to be." -Skeptica
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| Abdul Alhazred |
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| Eos of the Eons wrote: | | Okay, back on track... the article outlines what is and is not science. ... |
Thank you.
You're in my blog. Click the motto in the sig. 
BTW, what's up with your 'homepage' link? Did you lose the domain? |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:06 pm |
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| Abdul Alhazred wrote: | | Eos of the Eons wrote: | | Okay, back on track... the article outlines what is and is not science. ... |
Thank you.
You're in my blog. Click the motto in the sig.
BTW, what's up with your 'homepage' link? Did you lose the domain? |
My site links to http://www.skeptix.ca/about/skepticism.html and that's still there, so they may be in the middle of heeding my complaint about auto-starting flash with loud sound on the home page.
Or not.
The page that is showing up instead of their home page seems to be a routine fall-back page from their hosting company. |
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