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look on the right. India.
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Rob Lister wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:57 am look on the right. India.
Ummm. . . . never mind . . .

. . . obvious joke is obvious.
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Neuroskeptic
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"Your brain on brands". It's just a standard brain function diagram with the word 'brand' added a few times. You could say it's phrenology rebranded.
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14 is not 15 though.
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Now eat your vitamins:

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Witness wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:04 am
Spoiler:
https://i.imgur.com/v6ItO2F.png
Nice bit of cherry-picking. Now show us the graph for the past 150 years.
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If The great flood of 1862 happened now, it would be blamed on global warming


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xouper wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:21 am
Witness wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:04 am
Spoiler:
https://i.imgur.com/v6ItO2F.png
Nice bit of cherry-picking. Now show us the graph for the past 150 years.
What was claimed other than California experiencing drought conditions currently?
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Hotarubi wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:14 am
xouper wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:21 am
Witness wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:04 am
Spoiler:
https://i.imgur.com/v6ItO2F.png
Nice bit of cherry-picking. Now show us the graph for the past 150 years.
What was claimed other than California experiencing drought conditions currently?
Seems to me, but I could be wrong, there was an implied claim (based on the thread title) that the three years you posted were in some way noteworthy or "thought provoking"?

California has a long history of such droughts. What you posted is nothing new.

So perhaps I simply missed the point you hoped to make.

On the other hand, your post did provoke some thoughts in my head, so you got that going for you.
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xouper wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:28 am Seems to me, but I could be wrong, there was an implied claim (based on the thread title) that the three years you posted were in some way noteworthy or "thought provoking"?
What implied claim? Can you point it out? I can see no claim, implied or otherwise other than that "there's a bit of a nasty drought" at the moment. There is nothing to support anything else.

Bizarre. Perhaps witness can help us out by explaining what his implied yet intangible claim was other than "there's a drought."
xouper wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:28 amCalifornia has a long history of such droughts. What you posted is nothing new.
Well it is new because it's this year. And the level of current "dryness" is kinda thought provoking.
xouper wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:28 amSo perhaps I simply missed the point you hoped to make.
I didn't make any point, witness posted the graph.

Madness.
xouper wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:28 amOn the other hand, your post did provoke some thoughts in my head, so you got that going for you.
Isn't that wizard.
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Hotarubi wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:43 am
xouper wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:28 amSo perhaps I simply missed the point you hoped to make.
I didn't make any point, witness posted the graph.
OOPS. I'm so old . . . I lost track who I was replying to. :oops:

In any case, my point was, and still is, there's nothing noteworthy about the current California drought.

But I'm willing to revise my opinion if someone presents a persuasive explanation.
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From 1917-1937 California only had two years of normal rainfall

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_in_California
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Water is wet. California is dry.
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I grew up in Southern California. Inland, away from the beaches.

As a kid, I can’t remember a time when we weren't being warned to be careful about how much water we used.

Even now I get a bit nervous watching Japanese people's profligate water use.
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I must admit, witness's graph is conclusive, irrefutable evidence both for and against global warming.
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xouper wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:21 am Nice bit of cherry-picking.
Ah, another mind reader. We'll soon start making money with all the extra-lucid talents here. :mrgreen:

xouper wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:21 am Now show us the graph for the past 150 years.
Easy to find online, suit yourself.
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Witness wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 11:40 pm
xouper wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:21 am Nice bit of cherry-picking.
Ah, another mind reader. We'll soon start making money with all the extra-lucid talents here. :mrgreen:

xouper wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:21 am Now show us the graph for the past 150 years.
Easy to find online, suit yourself.
Yeah, I had already seen those long before I posted that. I had my sarcasm hat on when I posted that.

Perhaps I should have been more direct: What thoughts were you hoping to provoke by posting that "graph" about California droughts?

Seriously, what exactly was your point?

Were you hoping that "graph" would be evidence of something ominous?

Seriously, what exactly was your point?
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xouper wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:58 am Perhaps I should have been more direct […] what exactly was your point?
For such a matter-of-fact graphic it indeed generated a lot of thoughts. :mrgreen:
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From Wikipedia:


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Witness wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:53 pm
xouper wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:58 am Perhaps I should have been more direct […] what exactly was your point?
For such a matter-of-fact graphic it indeed generated a lot of thoughts. :mrgreen:
I've decided that wasn't what you meant and you should be purged.
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Witness wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:53 pm
xouper wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:58 am Perhaps I should have been more direct […] what exactly was your point?
For such a matter-of-fact graphic it indeed generated a lot of thoughts. :mrgreen:
Well, then . . . there ya go. Witness for the win! :figamagee:
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https://i.imgur.com/BE1nibh.png

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Witness wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 1:37 am
Spoiler:
https://i.imgur.com/BE1nibh.png
From that map of drug overdose death rate . . .

Norway: 4.5 per 100,000
Sweden: 4.7
Finland: 5.3
Denmark: 3.4
England 3.4
Scotland: 9.2 :shock:


Compare that with San Francisco which had a drug overdose death rate of 80 per 100,000 in 2020.

Source: https://www.ktvu.com/news/fentanyl-givi ... ose-deaths
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To be fair you should compare a city with a city
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↑ USA! USA! USA!
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robinson wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 3:47 am To be fair you should compare a city with a city
Not necessary if the point is to show how bad a city is compared to entire European countries.
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Witness wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 3:51 am ↑ USA! USA! USA!
Fallacy of composition.

The Democrat run city of San Francisco is not representative of the entire USA.
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xouper wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 3:37 am
Witness wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 1:37 am
Spoiler:
https://i.imgur.com/BE1nibh.png
From that map of drug overdose death rate . . .

Norway: 4.5 per 100,000
Sweden: 4.7
Finland: 5.3
Denmark: 3.4
England 3.4
Scotland: 9.2 :shock:


Compare that with San Francisco which had a drug overdose death rate of 80 per 100,000 in 2020.

Source: https://www.ktvu.com/news/fentanyl-givi ... ose-deaths
Nice bit of cherry-picking. Now show us the data for the past 150 years.
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Hotarubi wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 12:59 pm
xouper wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 3:37 am
Witness wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 1:37 am
Spoiler:
https://i.imgur.com/BE1nibh.png
From that map of drug overdose death rate . . .

Norway: 4.5 per 100,000
Sweden: 4.7
Finland: 5.3
Denmark: 3.4
England 3.4
Scotland: 9.2 :shock:


Compare that with San Francisco which had a drug overdose death rate of 80 per 100,000 in 2020.

Source: https://www.ktvu.com/news/fentanyl-givi ... ose-deaths
Nice bit of cherry-picking.
Thank you.

The cherry picking was intentional. I deliberately chose San Francisco as my target of scorn.

Further clarification: I was not making any kind of argument where cherry picking would be a fallacy.

But thanks for noticing, and for bumping my post.
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Someone explain it to him.