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Be brave.
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Yeah well...I did get pretty good at changing out sump pumps every couple of years.
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Hey Pyrrho, do you know about Linndale, the "speed trap masquerading as a town"?

It's in Cuyahoga County so I figure maybe you've heard about it. Was recently featured on This American Life.

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-he ... fe-episode
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This is just a saga now.
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Anaxagoras wrote:Hey Pyrrho, do you know about Linndale, the "speed trap masquerading as a town"?

It's in Cuyahoga County so I figure maybe you've heard about it. Was recently featured on This American Life.

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-he ... fe-episode
Indeed I do. Will send you a PM.
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Pyrrho's basement (artist's view).
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Backflow device passed inspection! Tomorrow, the water meter gets installed.

A pot to piss in, etc.
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So all of this was because you didn't like well water?
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Since the construction of new sewer lines, the well water is no longer potable. The contractors cut into the acquifer.
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Pyrrho wrote:Since the construction of new sewer lines, the well water is no longer potable. The contractors cut into the acquifer.
I gotta admire that you ran the connection yourself but you should really find the engineer that fucked up your well and have a talk with him.
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I will call them up and give them a good talking to.

615 mg/L total dissolved solids

24.65 mg/L Calcium
1.11 mg/L Iron
0.27 mg/L Manganese

Good for what ails you.

No chlorine or fluoride, though, so my precious bodily fluids will now have to take their chances.
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"Mandrake..."

"Yes Jack?"

You can lead them to knowledge, but you can't make them think.
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LOL...the County was supposed to notify the Cleveland Water Division that the sewer line was connected, so that the CWD would also bill for sewer. The County did not do that and although I've been getting water bills I haven't been billed for sewer. I called the local city hall and they told me to call CWD. I called CWD and they told me to call the local city hall.

The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is the sewer not working or are you merely in a position of not paying?
Sewer is working just fine AFAIK.

They have not been billing me. I figured I had better get their minds right so that at some point in the future I won't be charged thousands of dollars in retroactive billing.
The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
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The Kafka sewer.
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Yes...it will be listed on the bill as

(1) Water charges: $XX.XX (2) Local charges:$XX.XX
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Goddamn sump pump is running every 3 minutes. Lot of rain lately and I am hoping it's that and not that the water line is leaking somewhere. I think what's happening is that water is just naturally entering the sewer line trench that terminates against the foundation. Hope that in a few months when I can have the yard landscaped properly the drainage will be better. Still, I'm getting some chlorine test strips to make sure the water entering the sump pit is not from the water line. If it is, fortunately it's upstream of the water meter, but it would still mean another dig and repair. Pretty sure they ran a continuous 1" copper line to the street, no couplings outside my wall, so...I dunno.

Basement has always been prone to water seeping in. Old house built in a "simpler time."

Where they ran the new sewer drains through the wall seeps and drips when it rains. I'll have to try to patch it with hydraulic cement from the inside.
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Pyrrho wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is the sewer not working or are you merely in a position of not paying?
Sewer is working just fine AFAIK.

They have not been billing me. I figured I had better get their minds right so that at some point in the future I won't be charged thousands of dollars in retroactive billing.
You are a more honest man than me. If a cash register person hands me back too much change I will tell them because I know they will catch shit at the very least when their cash register comes up short. This has happened to me before. But if a large impersonal bureaucracy forgot to send me a bill, I think I would just pretend not to notice. Does that make me a bad person?
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Anaxagoras wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is the sewer not working or are you merely in a position of not paying?
Sewer is working just fine AFAIK.

They have not been billing me. I figured I had better get their minds right so that at some point in the future I won't be charged thousands of dollars in retroactive billing.
You are a more honest man than me. If a cash register person hands me back too much change I will tell them because I know they will catch shit at the very least when their cash register comes up short. This has happened to me before. But if a large impersonal bureaucracy forgot to send me a bill, I think I would just pretend not to notice. Does that make me a bad person?
I had to pay the local municipality hundreds of dollars in fees to get a permit. I get that fee refunded if and only if I present a bill showing that the sewer charge has been paid. They do that to make sure the connection work actually gets done. Sure. Yeah.

Like I said, I also didn't want them to "discover" the error ten years down the road and have them demand back payment.
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Anaxagoras wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is the sewer not working or are you merely in a position of not paying?
Sewer is working just fine AFAIK.

They have not been billing me. I figured I had better get their minds right so that at some point in the future I won't be charged thousands of dollars in retroactive billing.
You are a more honest man than me. If a cash register person hands me back too much change I will tell them because I know they will catch shit at the very least when their cash register comes up short. This has happened to me before. But if a large impersonal bureaucracy forgot to send me a bill, I think I would just pretend not to notice. Does that make me a bad person?
Yes Anax: By refusing to pay your sewer bill, some kids in Africa will have to go without shitting for a week! Think of the childrenz!!
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sparks wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Is the sewer not working or are you merely in a position of not paying?
Sewer is working just fine AFAIK.

They have not been billing me. I figured I had better get their minds right so that at some point in the future I won't be charged thousands of dollars in retroactive billing.
You are a more honest man than me. If a cash register person hands me back too much change I will tell them because I know they will catch shit at the very least when their cash register comes up short. This has happened to me before. But if a large impersonal bureaucracy forgot to send me a bill, I think I would just pretend not to notice. Does that make me a bad person?
Yes Anax: By refusing to pay your sewer bill, some kids in Africa will have to go without shitting for a week! Think of the childrenz!!
This guy has gone 33 days.
https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/ ... er-1251529
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You will all be amused to learn that another month has gone by without a sewer fee. Why is this? Because the billing is handled by Cleveland Water, and Cleveland Water, in the person of a district supervisor, has determined that our area is not on their service map. I get the water bill, sure, but as far as sewer is concerned, we aren't on the map, and unless we're on the map, they can't process the billing, because our sewers drain into a suburban system, and that suburb has to do some unknown thing to get us on the service map.

I advised them that we will not accept returns on any of the merchandise we've been shipping.
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Well, you might want to keep notes if possible in case you need them later. (when you called them, who you spoke to, what they said, etc.)
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Get to work.
Get the wax outta your ears!

You call the Captain "Captain!"

And you call the rest of us "Boss," you hear?!
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Got our first sewer bill today!

Yes, they billed us for the past 4 months.
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Boss Paul says you wasn't happy with your bill!

That you was complainin'!
Boss Paul says you wasn't happy with your job! That you was complainin'!

Well, we're goin' to give you a chance to think about it!
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I sure did complain! Throw me in the box here, Boss!

There is this "wastewater billing fee" they tacked on. So we get billed for the water when it comes in, get billed for when the water goes out, and get billed for getting billed.

How the bureaucracy feeds itself.
The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
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Pyrrho wrote:I sure did complain! Throw me in the box here, Boss!

There is this "wastewater billing fee" they tacked on. So we get billed for the water when it comes in, get billed for when the water goes out, and get billed for getting billed.

How the bureaucracy feeds itself.
Next month they'll tack on the 'Complaint Line Usage Fee'.
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Surprised there isn't a sales tax.
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Patience my friend, patience.
You can lead them to knowledge, but you can't make them think.
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There was a statement made by a Cleveland Water exec some time ago..."People have been using less water, so we had to raise the rates."
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Wow. Just wow.
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sparks wrote:Wow. Just wow.
Ah, sparks, always the optimist:
BP claims an oil spill off Australia's coast would be a 'welcome boost' to local economies

Coastal towns would benefit from an oil spill in the pristine Great Australian Bight because the clean up would boost their economies, energy giant BP has claimed as part of its controversial bid to drill in the sensitive marine zone.

BP, which has since withdrawn the drilling plan, also told a federal government agency that a diesel spill would be considered “socially acceptable”.

BP made the statements in an environment plan submitted to the National Offshore Petroleum Safety and Environmental Management Authority in March 2016.

The company had been seeking to drill two wells off the South Australian coast, raising fears of an environmental disaster akin to BP's 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
http://www.watoday.com.au/federal-polit ... 4z867.html

(Sorry to be somewhat off-topic in Pyrrho's thread.)
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These people are fucking nuts.
You can lead them to knowledge, but you can't make them think.
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Witness wrote:
BP claims an oil spill off Australia's coast would be a 'welcome boost' to local economies

Coastal towns would benefit from an oil spill in the pristine Great Australian Bight because the clean up would boost their economies,
An excellent example of the broken window fallacy.
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Rob Lister wrote:An excellent example of the broken window fallacy.
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Quotes are in for getting what's left of the dirt out of Boss Shorty's yard. THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS

I'm going to dig it out myself here, Boss.
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Get to work.
Get the wax outta your ears!

You call the Captain "Captain!"

And you call the rest of us "Boss," you hear?!
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Backslidin'!
What's your dirt doin' in my ditch?
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Pyrrho wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:16 amI'm going to dig it out myself here, Boss.