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I'm sure pleased its xmas, because we in Truedemocracynofiddlinginourelectionsplease Britland get to see the "Morecambe and Wise" breakfast sketch 17,943 times in the space of two weeks. Which, considering it wasnt all that funny to begin with, is always a pleasure.
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Official Christmas Number 1 update: LadBaby retains strong lead with Don't Stop Me Eatin', while Boris Johnson protest song climbs into Top 10



Essex synthpop outfit The K**ts have been scaling the Official Singles Chart this week with their track about the prime minister, titled Boris Johnson is a F***ing C***. The 56-second song, backed by Charlie Brooker and original Sex Pistol Glen Matlock, has climbed to Number 6 and is currently the UK's second most-downloaded song of the week.
https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-ne ... 10__31917/
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Hundreds of UK tourists flee Covid quarantine in Swiss ski resort

About half of the 420 visitors ordered to self-isolate left Verbier in ‘cloak and dagger’ operation

Hundreds of British tourists fled the upmarket Swiss ski resort of Verbier in a “cloak-and-dagger operation” this week, breaking quarantine rules retroactively put in place to contain the spread of the coronavirus variant first discovered in the UK.

Following the detection of the new mutation of Covid-19 in Britain, Swiss authorities announced on 21 December that all people who had arrived from the UK since 14 December would need to self-isolate for 10 days from their date of arrival.

The new quarantine rules also applied to hundreds of British tourists who had planned to spend the Christmas break in Verbier, an alpine village located in the municipality of Bagnes in Canton du Valais, nicknamed “Little London” by locals for the British visitors who make up 20% of tourists during a typical winter season.

Swiss authorities managed to track down 420 visitors from the UK, who were told go into quarantine.

However, according to a report in the Swiss newspaper SonntagsZeitung, at least half of these tourists fled the resort in “clandestine” fashion, with some later reporting back to their hotels from France.

“Many of them stayed in quarantine for a day before setting off under the cover of darkness,” said Jean-Marc Sandoz, communications officer for the Bagnes municipality.

Many hoteliers had only noticed their British guests’ departure after they failed to answer calls to their rooms or left meals deposited outside their rooms untouched.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... rt-verbier

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We are British. The funny rules of the natives don't apply to us.
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The British state confirms it is too weak and cowardly to stand up for its own

By TruePublica: The British state via the Foreign Office, headed up by Dominic Raab has confirmed that British citizens arrested overseas through no fault of their own have no right to the government’s assistance or protection, even if they are tortured or held as diplomatic leverage against their country.

In 2016, just before the EU referendum that led to Brexit, the British passport was the most powerful passport in the world according to the Global Passport Power Index. Today, it is ranked 18th behind countries such as Portugal and Greece with Germany, Sweden and Finland taking the top three positions for the first time in history.

Worse still, British citizens now find themselves in the unnerving position of knowing that the British passport, is in fact, now just a travel document but otherwise completely worthless.

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The government also states that as a British passport holder you – “get consular assistance and protection from UK diplomatic posts.”

However, that status no longer exists. As at 28th December 2020, the government has now confirmed that British citizens overseas have “no legal right to consular assistance”, Sarah Broughton, the head of consular affairs at the Foreign Office, wrote in a letter obtained by The Times.

Under international law, Britain is entitled, at the very least, to consular access and ultimately to seek redress through the international legal system should a British subject be, for instance, falsely accused of a crime. But in a further admission, the government has also confirmed that where trumped-up charges imposed by a hostile state that then tortures a British subject – it no longer has any obligation to act at all. The government has confirmed that it will “no longer investigate mistreatment allegations.”

The question must now be asked – what is the purpose of any government if it fails in its primary duty to protect its own citizens? And this also leads on to Brexit – because the government pushed it as a question of sovereignty over the economics or even constitutional law.
https://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingd ... r-its-own/

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World’s first ‘human challenge COVID trials’ will see 2500 Brits deliberately catch virus

In a world first, 2500 brave Britons will be deliberately injected with COVID-19 as part of groundbreaking research into the killer virus.

The world’s first “human challenge COVID trials” will see 2500 hero Brits deliberately being infected with coronavirus for research.

The trial comes as new evidence shows that COVID-19 immunity for those suffering a mild version of the disease lasts at least four months, say experts.

Imperial College said its joint human challenge study involves volunteers aged 18 to 30, with the project starting in January – and results expected in May.

Initially, 90 volunteers will be given a dose of an experimental nasal vaccine.

They’ll then be deliberately infected with COVID-19.

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Participants will be deliberately given the bug “in a secure bio-containment suite”, according to The Times.

The so-called human challenge study is used infrequently because of questions over the ethics of infecting otherwise healthy people.

However, the government announced the project back in October, saying, “the aim will be to discover the smallest amount of virus it takes to cause a person to develop COVID-19 infection.

“This is known as a virus characterisation study and will be backed by £33.6 million ($A59 million) of government investment.”

But it has taken a few months to come to fruition as before any research could begin, the study had to be approved by ethics committees and regulators.
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Next week: 2500 Welsh bitten by radioactive rabid bats.

Not part of a test, I just want to see it happen.
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New Brexit deal deems Netscape Browser and Mozilla Mail as secure software.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55475433

Had me worried for a minute there.
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The write-up says that the text may have been copied from a 2008 EU law.

So the EU were about ten years behind the times then, and whichever side wrote the latest document is now a further twelve years on top of that.
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Hotarubi wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:10 am New Brexit deal deems Netscape Browser and Mozilla Mail as secure software.
Beat me to it. :x





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https://barristerblogger.com/2020/12/29 ... h-penalty/





In other news: Covid: Sydney beach party sparks 'backpacker' deportation threat. (Allegedly Brits involved…)
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Just about every home secretary I can remember has "scoped" the death penalty Not real news.

Mind you, Patel is a darkie and must be evil.
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Hotarubi wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:08 am Just about every home secretary I can remember has "scoped" the death penalty Not real news.

Mind you, Patel is a darkie and must be evil.
Thanks for clearing that up. Now I wonder what's behind that recurrent drive? (You know I'm not from the UK, English isn't even one of my mother tongues, so any correction is most welcome.)

As for point two I get it in a general sense, but given the source here…
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I could take him seriously if he could spell "penalty."

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Witness wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:23 am Thanks for clearing that up. Now I wonder what's behind that recurrent drive? (You know I'm not from the UK, English isn't even one of my mother tongues, so any correction is most welcome.)
This time? Brexit. A hurdle for the instituting the death penalty has been removed.

I say hurdle - because that's exactly what it was. The UK could bypass Euro "laws" at anytime it wanted to. Something the Brexiters detest being reminded of or didn't even know.

As for other times? Its usually a crowd appeasement move in response to a brutal crime involving photogenic white female middle class victim that has got the masses all agitated and "angin's too good fir 'em!"
As for point two I get it in a general sense, but given the source here…
Im not a great fan, but Patel gets a ton of unwarranted criticism at the moment. Its tedious to be honest. Just a general "meh."
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Pfizer warns there is NO proof its Covid jab works when doses are taken 12 weeks apart as UK regulator scraps 21-day rule in desperate attempt to get millions more vaccinated
  • Regulator now recommending jabs are given in two doses three months apart
  • Originally Pfizer and Oxford jabs intended to be injected in space of four weeks
  • Change in strategy is to cope with spiking Covid cases and hospitalisations
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... gimen.html
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London Mayoral election 2021 candidate:



"Within the next 150 years we might....just might, have a new Labour leader."

Funniest line I've heard for weeks. In fact all year apart from Martin Clunes on "Have I got news for you" winding Ian Hislop up. Ill see if I can dig it up
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Witness wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:26 pm
Pfizer warns there is NO proof its Covid jab works when doses are taken 12 weeks apart as UK regulator scraps 21-day rule in desperate attempt to get millions more vaccinated
  • Regulator now recommending jabs are given in two doses three months apart
  • Originally Pfizer and Oxford jabs intended to be injected in space of four weeks
  • Change in strategy is to cope with spiking Covid cases and hospitalisations
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... gimen.html
I don't know, but I suspect it will work just as well after 3 months as after 3 weeks. And this strategy has the potential to cover more people sooner than re-vaccinating people who have already been vaccinated once before others get their first shot. I would make an exception for the most vulnerable though: the elderly and those with conditions that make them more vulnerable.
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FWIW

https://www.fda.gov/media/144325/download

Pages 49 and 50 are relevant.

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Covid: Illegal New Year party at Essex church broken up

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A 500-year-old church was damaged during an illegal New Year's Eve party at the venue.

All Saints' Church in East Horndon, near Brentwood, was broken into before crowds entered, Essex Police said.

Officers were threatened and had objects thrown at them as they dispersed hundreds of people and seized equipment, the force said.

Two men from Harlow, aged 27 and 22, and a 35-year-old from Southwark were arrested.

They were held on suspicion of public order and drugs offences.

Astrid Gillespie, a volunteer with the Friends of All Saints', said event organisers had smashed a window to put in an extractor fan unit and wired sound equipment into the church's fuse box.

She said: "It was a professional set-up, they'd hired Portaloos, they had a bar area where you had to exchange tokens... obviously it's a mess.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-55506681

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Messed up knaves
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Donald Trump told by Nicola Sturgeon he's not allowed to play golf in Scotland during Joe Biden inauguration

There have been suggestions the outgoing US president could boycott his successor's inauguration ceremony on 20 January.

Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon cautioned the outgoing US leader that playing a round would not be deemed an "essential purpose" for transatlantic travel into the country during the ongoing COVID crisis.
https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump ... n-12180046
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I wonder how he really feels.
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Tories urged to suspend politicians who likened US violence to anti-Brexit protests

Senior party figures equated storming of US Capitol by supporters of Donald Trump with people opposing Brexit

The Conservatives are to investigate two senior Tory figures who equated the storming of the US Capitol by supporters of Donald Trump with people opposing Brexit, after complaints from Labour.

The party is to look into tweets sent by Susan Hall, the Tory group leader on the London assembly, and Andrew RT Davies, formerly leader of the Welsh Conservatives.

Angela Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader and party chair, wrote to Amanda Milling, who chairs the Conservative party, to say she was “deeply concerned” at the comments.

Davies, who is a member of the Senedd Cymru and shadow minister for health, responded to a tweet by Keir Starmer condemning the scenes in Washington by noting the Labour leader’s former support for a second Brexit referendum.

Davies wrote: “To be honest I’m not sure you’re in the strongest position right now given you campaigned to overturn democracy and the will of the British people.”

In her tweet, Hall said she was “flabbergasted at the amount of remainers screaming on Twitter that Trump voters should respect democracy – err, hellooo – pot – kettle spring to mind!”

Hall later apparently deleted the tweet, but sent another tweet calling the Green MP Caroline Lucas, another supporter of a second Brexit vote, a “hypocrite” for condemning the violent Trump supporters.

Milling is to write to Hall and Davies to warn them about the consequences of such language. A Conservative party spokesperson said: “The scenes in Washington last night were disgraceful and unacceptable. We totally condemn them. We are investigating these comments.”
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Unaware of any of the buildings in Whitehall being occupied.
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Well you are in lock down.

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Doctor X wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:44 am Well you are in lock down.

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The train. Not the crew.
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At the risk of dragging Scotland into the UK thread, sounds like the sturgeon/ salmon snp civil war is heating up.

“ The former SNP leader is allegedly accusing his one-time protege of misleading the Holyrood parliament and contravening the ministerial code. If true, that would be the end of Sturgeon’s premiership.”

Has sturgeon been up to something fishy, or is salmond floundering?
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Is that stuff even drinkable? :notsure:
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Covid: Women on exercise trip 'surrounded by police'

Two women out for a walk in the park.
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Two women have described how they were surrounded by police, read their rights and fined £200 each after driving five miles to take a walk.
The women were also told the hot drinks they had brought along were not allowed as they were "classed as a picnic".
Guidance for the current lockdown says people can travel for exercise as long as it is in their "local area".
The police force involved, Derbyshire Police, said driving for exercise was "not in the spirit" of lockdown.
One of the would-be walkers, Jessica Allen, assumed "someone had been murdered" when she arrived at Foremark Reservoir on Wednesday afternoon.
"As we drove in there was a police van, a police car, and there were loads of police there," said Ms Allen, who lives in Ashby-de-la-Zouch in Leicestershire.
"I genuinely thought someone had been murdered; the place is normally so quiet. The next thing, my car is surrounded. I got out of my car thinking 'There's no way they're coming to speak to us'. Straight away they start questioning us.
"One of them started reading my rights and I was looking at my friend thinking 'This must be a joke'.
"I said we had come in separate cars, even parked two spaces away and even brought our own drinks with us. He said 'You can't do that as it's classed as a picnic'."
Seems a bit extreme.
How far can you travel for exercise?
Guidance issued by the Cabinet Office states that people can leave their homes for exercise but should not travel outside their "local area".
However, the actual legislation does not specify a maximum distance that people are allowed to travel for exercise.
Both the guidance and legislation state people can exercise with one other person, as Jessica Allen and Eliza Moore did.
Human rights barrister Adam Wagner said: "There is no law against travelling to exercise. The guidance is not legally binding and the police have no power to enforce it unless it is reflected in the lockdown regulations which in this case it is not."
Derbyshire Police said: "It is up to each individual officer on a case-by-case basis to decide what is reasonable as the legislation does not proscribe a distance."
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Witness wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:13 am

Is that stuff even drinkable? :notsure:
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Who could have imagined that there would be such demand for free beer.
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Taking the piss. Which is of course, ironic.

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I've moved 10,000 in three hours. Estimated time "more than an hour"...yeah, you covered yourselves there didn't you?

I tried emailing them to complain but I get placed in the same fucking queue.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:12 pm Covid: Women on exercise trip 'surrounded by police'

Two women out for a walk in the park.
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Two women have described how they were surrounded by police, read their rights and fined £200 each after driving five miles to take a walk.
The women were also told the hot drinks they had brought along were not allowed as they were "classed as a picnic".
Guidance for the current lockdown says people can travel for exercise as long as it is in their "local area".
The police force involved, Derbyshire Police, said driving for exercise was "not in the spirit" of lockdown.
One of the would-be walkers, Jessica Allen, assumed "someone had been murdered" when she arrived at Foremark Reservoir on Wednesday afternoon.
"As we drove in there was a police van, a police car, and there were loads of police there," said Ms Allen, who lives in Ashby-de-la-Zouch in Leicestershire.
"I genuinely thought someone had been murdered; the place is normally so quiet. The next thing, my car is surrounded. I got out of my car thinking 'There's no way they're coming to speak to us'. Straight away they start questioning us.
"One of them started reading my rights and I was looking at my friend thinking 'This must be a joke'.
"I said we had come in separate cars, even parked two spaces away and even brought our own drinks with us. He said 'You can't do that as it's classed as a picnic'."
Seems a bit extreme.
How far can you travel for exercise?
Guidance issued by the Cabinet Office states that people can leave their homes for exercise but should not travel outside their "local area".
However, the actual legislation does not specify a maximum distance that people are allowed to travel for exercise.
Both the guidance and legislation state people can exercise with one other person, as Jessica Allen and Eliza Moore did.
Human rights barrister Adam Wagner said: "There is no law against travelling to exercise. The guidance is not legally binding and the police have no power to enforce it unless it is reflected in the lockdown regulations which in this case it is not."
Derbyshire Police said: "It is up to each individual officer on a case-by-case basis to decide what is reasonable as the legislation does not proscribe a distance."
Bit of common sense guys, pls. Although I'd guess their hands are tied.

I liked this:
Since Wednesday, when police stopped the two friends, Jessica said she has been "left feeling fearful" and hasn't left the house.
Good. Please stay there so I do not have to meet you at some point in the future you stupid little princess.
Yep, you totally outsmarted me ~ Wildcat.

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Come ooooon, come ooooooooooooooooon...
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Hotarubi wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:12 pm Come ooooon, come ooooooooooooooooon...
I gather it's drinkable, then. :notsure:





Just for the title (but it's a somewhat funny read): As the US descends into chaos, what better time for Britain to go the same way?