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Fuck knows, I got all the way to checkout and they didn't apply the discount.

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How long will you have to wait to send it?

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58% of UK stag weekends deplatformed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... abis-cafes

Foreign visitors face ban from Amsterdam’s cannabis cafes
Proposals would allow only Dutch residents to enter city’s 166 marijuana-selling coffee shops.

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Great, the one thing guaranteed to calm obnoxiously pissed English tourists the fuck down has been taken off the table.

Genius.

Does not mention the whores. So that might salvage the tourist trade to a certain extent.
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↑ I hope the ladies are working in sexy hazmat suits? :P




Wetherspoon pub in Beeston vandalised over anti-lockdown posters in windows

Wetherspoon boss Tim Martin has repeatedly expressed his doubts over the effectiveness of lockdown
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The cringe starts at ~ 12:15.

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Now, I have some... some sympathy with the contracted parties because of the short notice. I even have sympathy with handoncock because he probably had no clue who the contractors were.

But the results are just abject. And you did vote against it. And there's a better way.
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The kingdom is dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed!

Bad omen? Tower of London raven missing, feared dead

Legend says at least six ravens must be kept at the castle or the kingdom will fall

One of the ravens at the Tower of London is feared to have died, in a potentially gloomy omen for Britain. It means that the tower is close to having fewer than six ravens, a level that would spell doom for the kingdom, according to legend.

Ravenmaster Christopher Skaife confirmed that one of the birds, Merlina, known as the queen of the tower’s unkindness of ravens, is presumed dead after being missing for weeks.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Skaife said: “Merlina is a free-spirited raven and has been known to leave the tower precincts on many occasion. I’m her buddy and she normally comes back to us, but this time she didn’t. So, I do fear that she is not with us any more.” He added: “Just before Christmas, before we went into the lockdown, we were putting the ravens to bed, and she didn’t come back.”

If confirmed, Merlina’s death would bring the number of ravens at the tower to just seven. According to legend if two more were to die the tower and the kingdom would fall.

But Skaife said that if Merlina did not return, the tower did have a reserve raven to ensure that at least six remained.

He said: “We do have seven ravens here at the Tower of London, six by royal decree. And of course I still have a spare one, so we’re OK at the moment.”
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Mass vaccination center in Liichfield:


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For fucking fuck fucking fuck's sake.

Yes! We've had who can act like a twat the most using the script provided on big brother. Love simulated sex island using scripts provided, British Cake baking using the recipes provided, the joy of painting, competive weapons of mass destruction, I'm a celebrity get me some new bookings, posh cunts living up to stereotype using the scripts provided, northern cunts living up to stereotype using the scripts provided and sweary twats still insecurely obsessed with the fact that they are not from London living up to stereotype with the scripts provided.

This wasn't good enough. Because the Latest prime time, reality TV show, 8pm weekday night is....(drum roll)....POOCH PERFECT.


















Britain’s hairiest hounds get a makeover on the hunt for Britain’s best dog groomer. Sixteen professionals compete to see who can transform them into the smartest pooches in the land.

*headdesk*

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. BBC2. The supposed Highbrow, Middle Class "Arts Channel" now features...I dunno.. Becky from The Wirral with a fucking pink toy poodle

You know what I blame? Americ.. no...Biden. You cunt.
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Lord Sumption tells stage 4 cancer patient her life is 'less valuable'

Peer’s remark made to woman with bowel cancer during TV debate on Covid lockdowns

The former supreme court justice Jonathan Sumption has been criticised for telling a woman with stage 4 cancer that her life was “less valuable” during a televised discussion of the costs of coronavirus lockdowns.

Appearing on the BBC One show The Big Questions on Sunday to discuss the question of whether lockdown was “punishing too many for the greater good”, Lord Sumption, one of the most prominent anti-lockdown campaigners, said he did not accept that “all lives are of equal value”.

The former justice, who served on the supreme court until 2018, said he believed his children’s and grandchildren’s lives were “worth more because they’ve got a lot more of it ahead”.

Responding to Sumption’s remarks, Deborah James, who has stage 4 metastatic bowel cancer and hosts the BBC’s You, Me and the Big C podcast, said: “With all due respect, I am the person who you say their life is not valuable.”

The peer then interrupted James, saying: “I didn’t say your life was not valuable, I said it was less valuable.”

James continued: “Who are you to put a value on life? In my view, and I think in many others, life is sacred and I don’t think we should make those judgment calls. All life is worth saving regardless of what life it is people are living.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/ja ... ble-others

But a peer is still worth more, right?
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Its possible. Just very possible, that some genius alluded to Lord Cumshun some time ago.

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↑ Great eyebrows!




Flooding in England has exposed the outline of the Earith Bulwark, a Civil War fort built by Parliamentarian troops in 1643

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UK says working to recover up 400,000 deleted records from police database

A coding problem led to the accidental deletion of up to 400,000 records from British police databases but specialists are working to recover the information from different systems, Home Secretary Priti Patel said on Wednesday.

“So first of all let me just clarify this - this is a coding issue,” Patel said, adding that she could not say how much had been retrieved so far. “We talk about a figure of 400,000 but the actual figure could actually be a lot less.”
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55764673

Exodus Part II

Police broke up a wedding party with 400 guests in north London.
Officers found the windows at the Yesoday Hatorah Girls Senior School, a Charedi school in Stamford Hill, had been covered when they arrived at 21:15 GMT on Thursday.
The guests fled the scene when officers arrived.
The organisers were fined £10,000 for breaching coronavirus regulations, while five other guests were issued £200 fines, police said.
The area is home to the UK's largest Charedi community of strictly Orthodox Jews.
Det Ch Sup Marcus Barnett of the Met Police said: "This was a completely unacceptable breach of the law.
"People across the country are making sacrifices by cancelling or postponing weddings and other celebrations and there is no excuse for this type of behaviour.
"My officers are working tirelessly with the community and we will not hesitate to take enforcement action if that is required to keep people safe."

Stamford Hill is part of the borough of Hackney, which has a Covid-19 infection rate of 625.43 cases per 100,000 people.
The England average rate is 471.31 per 100,000 people.
London is under an England-wide lockdown, which prevents social mixing between households.
Londoners are asked to only leave home for limited reasons such as shopping, going to work, seeking medical assistance, or avoiding domestic abuse.


Well I'm glad you cleared the last one up because some people might not have been sure.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... in-england

Ministers consider £500 payment to everyone with COVID

Ministers are considering paying £500 to everyone in England who tests positive for Covid-19, in a dramatic overhaul of the self-isolation support scheme, the Guardian can reveal.

The proposed change is thought necessary because government polling found only 17% of people with symptoms are coming forward to get a test, owing to fears that a positive result could stop people from working.

The universal payment is the “preferred position” of Matt Hancock’s Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) and would cost up to £453m a week, 12 times the cost of the current system, according to an official policy paper seen by the Guardian.

The 16-page document, dated 19 January and marked “Official Sensitive”, also proposes that police should be given access to health data for the first time to crack down on quarantine breaches.

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You know what that means don't you. Half the country will be coughing on each other during episodes of Pooch Perfect
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Hey, there are still Good News™:

Haggis launched to the edge of space in celebration of Burns Night

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But has it come back? :o
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Can stay there in all honesty.

Haggis is English btw, No really, it is. Anglish hagese references predate anything mentioned in Scottish texts by centuries.

We were doing whisky for centuries before them too. Culturally appropriating bastards.
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I was worried too that they would try to bring it back.
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A well made Hagese is actually rather good in all honesty.
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Only because you culturally appropriated Ireland.

Meanwhile, while it became RACISTS to say "China/Chinese/Wuhan Flu" only after The Donald said it, it is NOT RACISTS to say the "UK Flu," because people care less about the UKers than they do about the Wogs the Chinese have enslaved and are systematically wiping out from the gene pool.

Notice that I did not write "genocide," because, Heavens to Betsy, it is never, ever a "genocide" if it does not involve Proper Europeans.

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Doctor X wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:10 pm Only because you culturally appropriated Ireland.

Meanwhile, while it became RACISTS to say "China/Chinese/Wuhan Flu" only after The Donald said it, it is NOT RACISTS to say the "UK Flu," because people care less about the UKers than they do about the Wogs the Chinese have enslaved and are systematically wiping out from the gene pool.

Notice that I did not write "genocide," because, Heavens to Betsy, it is never, ever a "genocide" if it does not involve Proper Europeans.

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Wrong

As the non white population of the UK is 13%, non -white....it is 13% racist to say UK flu. Add an extra percentage point for merely saying that. Then subtract the proper metric™ To get the real answer.
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Hotarubi wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:38 am A well made Hagese is actually rather good in all honesty.
I wouldn't dare criticize the mores of your tribe. :P





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Scotland is heading towards independence from the UK thanks to Boris Johnson and Brexit
  • Scotland seems headed toward independence from the UK, with a new referendum likely.
  • Recent polls have consistently found majority support among Scots for leaving the UK.
  • Prime Minister Boris Johnson has refused legal permission for a referendum, but it may not matter.
https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-j ... ?r=US&IR=T for details.
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I love that they've gone back to 2019 to find a pic of Boris looking disgruntled in Scotland.

(How journalism works etc.)

Recent polls have consistently found majority support among Scots for leaving the UK.

How recent?

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YMMV. Probably COVID influenced.
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Hotarubi wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:53 pm I love that they've gone back to 2019 to find a pic of Boris looking disgruntled in Scotland.

(How journalism works etc.)

Recent polls have consistently found majority support among Scots for leaving the UK.

How recent?


YMMV. Probably COVID influenced.
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Rob Lister wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:05 pm
Hotarubi wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:53 pm I love that they've gone back to 2019 to find a pic of Boris looking disgruntled in Scotland.

(How journalism works etc.)

Recent polls have consistently found majority support among Scots for leaving the UK.

How recent?


YMMV. Probably COVID influenced.
What are your thoughts on Brexit? Express!
Short version:

Stupid, uneducated bigots who believed the bullshit they had been fed voted leave and have kinda figured out that they were idiots thus it is everybody else's fault.

Long version:

Stupid, uneducated bigots who believed the bullshit they had been fed voted leave and have kinda figured out that they were idiots thus it is everybody else's fault.

American Version:

Everything I agree with is exempt from criticism because Biden sucks China's baws.
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That’s quite nuanced.
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DJ wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:34 pm That’s quite nuanced.
I often get accused of not taking things seriously and not contributing anything of note by over-sensitive people. I was just trying to enlighten those ne'er-do-wells.
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Hotarubi wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:20 pm
Rob Lister wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:05 pm
Hotarubi wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:53 pm I love that they've gone back to 2019 to find a pic of Boris looking disgruntled in Scotland.

(How journalism works etc.)

Recent polls have consistently found majority support among Scots for leaving the UK.

How recent?


YMMV. Probably COVID influenced.
What are your thoughts on Brexit? Express!
Short version:

Stupid, uneducated bigots who believed the bullshit they had been fed voted leave and have kinda figured out that they were idiots thus it is everybody else's fault.

Long version:

Stupid, uneducated bigots who believed the bullshit they had been fed voted leave and have kinda figured out that they were idiots thus it is everybody else's fault.

American Version:

Everything I agree with is exempt from criticism because Biden sucks China's baws.
Honest and to the point. thanx.
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Rob Lister wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:39 pm

Honest and to the point. thanx.
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Opposing Brexit and supporting Scottish independence seems like an interesting exercise in contradiction. Granted, the Scots think the EU will welcome them with open arms and, more importantly, check cheque books.

Though you are incorrect.






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Doctor X wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:44 am Opposing Brexit and supporting Scottish independence seems like an interesting exercise in contradiction.
Not really, because if we remained, and Scotland became independent, we could have voted to keep them out of the EU which would have royally pissed them off.

Got to look at the big picture.
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From the Good Law Project (quoted in full):
Is Government ramping up costs to silence us?

Correspondence with Government has revealed they expect to spend a staggering £1 million defending our judicial review of their decisions to award contracts criticised by the NAO. This is a sum unprecedented in our lawyers’ experience of judicial review proceedings. We can’t but wonder whether they are trying to scare us off – using the bottomless public purse to avoid accountability to the public.

Government also says, remarkably, that finding out whether they acted lawfully in channelling hundreds of millions or billions to their VIP associates, is not in the public interest.

We had until recently been working on the understanding that we had raised enough money for our challenges to Government’s awards of hundreds of millions of pounds of PPE contracts to Pestfix, Ayanda, and Clandeboye.

We were shocked to learn that – having failed to provide the evidence we’ve been asking for since July – Government is threatening a vast disclosure exercise going well beyond what would normally be undertaken in a judicial review. And not just that they have hired an expensive international commercial law firm. They expect to have a team of 30-40 working for up to 3 months on an exercise that has not been requested by us, or by the Court.

In the experience of our legal team, costs incurred by Government in judicial review proceedings rarely exceed £100,000. Here Government says it has already spent over £325,000, and estimates their total costs will amount to £1 million – a staggering sum for a judicial review.

Government knows full well that we cannot take existential risk on bringing a single case. So we wrote to Government asking it to agree and order ‘capping’ both our costs and the taxpayers’ costs in these public interest proceedings.

We were shocked this week to receive their response contending that the litigation is not in the public interest, and refusing our proposed reciprocal cap: “In particular our client does not agree that the proceedings are ‘public interest proceedings'”. These are cases involving on Government’s own admission hundreds of millions of pounds being spent on unusable facemasks on companies that went through the VIP lane.

Not in the public interest? What are they on!

The point is all the more remarkable given that a barrister employed by the Government Legal Department in her witness statement of 30 November stated that: “We acknowledge that there is considerable public interest in Covid related procurement, particularly of PPE.”

We have now applied to the court for a Cost Cap. In line with our transparency principles I am publishing my Witness Statement. But if we don’t get one, unless a white knight or white knights emerge, the simple fact is we will have to abandon the litigation. We are not in a position to bear a £1 million risk.
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Hotarubi wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:38 pmNot really, because if we remained, and Scotland became independent, we could have voted to keep them out of the EU which would have royally pissed them off.
Though the SNP "promised" that, with independence, they would immediately be accepted into the EU. To my recollection, Cameron et al did not come out and specifically threaten to veto their entrance, but he did get the current head of the EU to publicly affirm that acceptance was not automatic.

The implications were staggering since not only would they not be a part of the EU, they would no longer be part of the UK of course.

I do wonder how much of the SNP's support is "spite vote." It is easy to pretend to be for independence when there is no danger of having to vote for it and watch the buffoons actually try to run the country.

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Doctor X wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:25 am
Hotarubi wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:38 pmNot really, because if we remained, and Scotland became independent, we could have voted to keep them out of the EU which would have royally pissed them off.
Though the SNP "promised" that, with independence, they would immediately be accepted into the EU. To my recollection, Cameron et al did not come out and specifically threaten to veto their entrance, but he did get the current head of the EU to publicly affirm that acceptance was not automatic.

The implications were staggering since not only would they not be a part of the EU, they would no longer be part of the UK of course.

I do wonder how much of the SNP's support is "spite vote." It is easy to pretend to be for independence when there is no danger of having to vote for it and watch the buffoons actually try to run the country.

– J.D.
I wonder if some of the spikes on my graph appear the day after "Braveheart" is on the telly.

Methinks the turn around on the for/against line is due to COVID. Probably with good reason. BlowJo has not dealt with it at all well and remains a buffoon, Freddie "look at how anti-semitic I'm not" Starmer is self isolating for the third time and remains clueless and Haddock keeps banging the tired, anachronistic "Auld Enemy" nonsense whilst remaining a hypocrite. There's no-one capable of managing a Starbucks let alone a country.

One still laments the Brexit vote that led to Cameron's demise, wasn't great but was a better PM than all the above put together - Inc. Brown trousers.

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Witness wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:08 am From the Good Law Project (quoted in full):

Is Government ramping up costs to silence us?

Correspondence with Government has revealed they expect to spend a staggering £1 million defending our judicial review of their decisions to award contracts criticised by the NAO. This is a sum unprecedented in our lawyers’ experience of judicial review proceedings. We can’t but wonder whether they are trying to scare us off – using the bottomless public purse to avoid accountability to the public.

Government also says, remarkably, that finding out whether they acted lawfully in channelling hundreds of millions or billions to their VIP associates, is not in the public interest.
A report by the National Audit Office (NAO) has offered examples of some of the failures made by the Cabinet Office when it came to procuring personal protective equipment (PPE) in the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic.

The investigative report, which was published by the NAO today, has outlined examples of the government handing multi-million pound contracts to small businesses, as well as making orders for the wrong sort of PPE.

The report investigated the government’s emergency coronavirus procurement during the Covid-19 pandemic up until 31 July 2020 following concerns raised about transparency when awarding lucrative government contracts.

By 31 July 2020 over 8,600 contracts related to government’s response to the pandemic had been awarded, with a value of £18bn. Contracts ranged in value from less than £100 to £410 million.

Pestfix
The Department for Health and Social Care awarded Pestfix, a Littlehampton-based retailer of pest control products including PPE, a £350m contract. The contract led the government to order hundreds of thousands of the wrong type of face mask.

Pestfix, a family business, was processed through the government’s high priority lane, which meant the cross-government PPE team considered that leads from these sources were more credible or needed to be treated with more urgency. However, according to the NAO, it was a mistake from within the cross-government PPE team to place Pestfix in the high priority lane.

The government contracted with PestFix to purchase 25 million FFP2 masks for £59m, however the masks were not in line with the government’s published PPE specifications at the time of the order. The government realised its mistake after 600,000 of the FFP2 masks had been delivered, and communicated the error with Pestfix. The masks will not be used and instead might be resold or used elsewhere.

In place of the remainder of the order, the government requested that PestFix instead supply Type IIR masks – a mask that fitted with the government’s PPE specifications – and varied the contract accordingly. PestFix has delivered 69% of this order to date and is continuing to work with the department.

A statement on Pestfix’s website said: “We welcome the findings of the National Audit Office that any fast-tracking of PestFix was not the result of any false information provided by PestFix. We were awarded contracts solely based on our ability to move quickly and change continually, and by being first to table genuine and competitive commercial offers for medical PPE while supply was rapidly diminishing but the country most needed it.”

Ayanda Capital
The Department of Health & Social Care also pushed Ayanda Capital’s £253m contract through the government’s PPE high-priority lane, following a referral by an NHS official.

The government again ordered the wrong masks from Ayanda Capital, and did not carry out due diligence checks until after it had signed a contract with the firm.


The government ordered £155m worth of FFP2 masks, which again were not in line with the government’s published PPC specifications. The masks were received and may be either repurposed or resold, a process Ayanda is assisting with.

Ayanda has disputed that the FFP2 masks did not meet the required technical standards. CEO Tim Horlick this week wrote a letter to the government that said: “Suggestions that the masks are not fit for purpose or are somehow unsafe to use by frontline NHS workers are simply untrue and we are advised defamatory.”

Ayanda’s website makes no mention of an ability to procure PPE. The business describes itself as: “a London-based family office focused on a broad investment strategy. We specialise in currency trading, offshore property, private equity and trade financing.”

Andrew Mills, who was an adviser to the Board of Trade at the time the contract was established, was a senior adviser at Ayanda Capital. Mills acted as Ayanda’s representative and signed the contract with the Department of Health and Social Care on Ayanda’s behalf on 29 April 2020.

The only documented consideration of the potential Mills conflict of interest by the Department of Health & Social Care was a standard new supplier form that declared no conflicts of interest, and due diligence checking for political connections for Ayanda directors. However, the due diligence checks, carried out on 2 May 2020 and after the contract had been signed, did not include Ayanda’s senior adviser and did not identify any conflicts of interest.

City A.M. could not reach Ayanda Capital for comment.
There were no conflicts of interest because they said so.
Public First
In March 2020 the Cabinet Office procured focus group and communication services firm Public First to provide focus group research on an informal basis, agreeing to pay Public First for each set of groups without a formal contract. The focus groups were usually booked a week or two in advance.

The owners of the consultancy firm have previously worked with Michael Gove – the minister for the Cabinet Office. While the NAO found no evidence Gove had been involved in either the award or management of this contract, the spending watchdog also found no documentation on the consideration of conflicts of interest, no recorded process for choosing the supplier, and no specific justification for using emergency procurement.


On 5 June 2020, the Cabinet Office awarded a retrospective contract to cover work already carried out from 3 March 2020 onwards and expected of future work. The Cabinet Office paid £550,000 to Public First in total for the work covered by this contract.

Public First has been contacted for comment.

Cabinet Office minister Julia Lopez said: “We have been dealing with an unprecedented global pandemic that has posed the biggest challenge to the UK in a generation.

“As this report rightly recognises, we needed to procure contracts with extreme urgency to secure the vital supplies required to protect frontline NHS workers and the public and we make no apology for that.

“We have robust processes in place for spending public money to ensure we get critical equipment to where it needs to go as quickly as possible, whilst also ensuring value for money for the taxpayer.

“It is important to maintain the public’s confidence in how we manage their money, and we welcome the NAO’s scrutiny of our processes and recommendations on how they can be improved.”
Synopsis: People in a hurry didn't practice due diligence. Although the Ayanda contract appears to stink.

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UK government accused of covering up 'national scandal' over Grenfell-style cladding

Exclusive: Housing ministry told local authorities it was 'appropriate' to block Freedom of Information requests that could identify buildings with similar ‘Grenfell’ cladding

The British government has been accused of trying to cover up a “national scandal” by telling local councils it was "appropriate" to block the release information about high-rise buildings that have potentially lethal aluminium cladding.

Aluminium composite cladding (ACM), which was implicated in the catastrophic Grenfell Tower fire that killed 72 people in June 2017, was banned the following year.

But the Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government (MHCLG) has told local authorities they can block Freedom of Information (FOI) requests that may identify high-rise buildings with aluminium cladding.

In a letter sent to all local authority chief executives, and obtained by openDemocracy, the housing ministry told councils that when responding to FOI requests about ACM “it is appropriate to withhold information that could lead to the identification of affected buildings”.

The news comes as Labour leader Keir Starmer announced that he will force a vote in Parliament next week to commit the government to publishing figures on the number of buildings affected by dangerous cladding.

The housing ministry’s letter, written by the director-general of building safety in November 2017, states that “clearly it is not for” the department to determine how councils respond to FOI requests. But Jon Baines, an information rights expert at the law firm Mishcon de Reya, said he “cannot see any other way of interpreting” the letter than as official guidance.
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Regular people can't be trusted with facts.