Anti-vaxxers in power

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No it's not real. But with a small twist.

It's based on a real billboard by "Wathan Funeral Home" encouraging people to "Text and Drive". Which was a Canadian campaign against, well, texting while driving. (No actual funeral home was involved in that either, as far as I can tell.)
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Right-wing pastor gets Covid after saying vaccines were part of 'mass death campaign'

Rick Wiles said he was in the hospital with Covid-19-related pneumonia. He said several family members also had symptoms.

A right-wing Florida pastor was hospitalized with Covid-19, weeks after saying vaccination efforts were part of a "mass death campaign."

The pastor, Rick Wiles, wrote Tuesday on TruNews.com, where he propagates homophobic, racist and other hateful conspiracy theories, that he had Covid-19-related pneumonia and difficulty breathing. He said that he was being released from the hospital later that day but that his wife was "still very fatigued."

He added that his daughter-in-law was in the hospital with extreme dehydration and vomiting and that at least four other family members, including his grandson, had developed Covid-19-related symptoms. At least three TruNews team members were also recovering from the virus, he wrote.

"This was a full-frontal hit from Hell on your TruNews family," Wiles wrote. "Because Jesus Christ lives in us, we shall live too. Your prayers needed for the above family members and team.

"Thanks to Jesus Christ, I survived the CCP Covid genocide on the American people," he added, apparently referring to the Chinese Communist Party.

About a month ago, Wiles said he was "not going to be vaccinated."

"I'm going to be one of the survivors. I'm going to survive the genocide," he said in an interview posted to TruNews. "I am not going to allow the Covid maniacs to convince me to be vaccinated or vaccinate me against my will."

"I know what I'm reading. I know what I'm seeing," Wiles said, adding that "there is a mass death campaign underway right now" and that "the only good thing that will come out of this is that a lot of stupid people will be killed off."

Wiles is the pastor of Flowing Streams Church, a nondenominational congregation in Vero Beach, Florida.

In January 2020, he said Covid-19 was God's way of punishing China for having a "godless communist government."

He warned that God's judgment would come down on America because of "the spiritual rebellion that is in this country," including "transgendering little children."
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Japan town hit by threats over COVID vaccination program for youth
A western Japan town has been flooded with complaints and threatening phone calls over its program for administering coronavirus vaccinations to young people between the ages of 12 and 15.

Amid the massive backlash against the COVID vaccination program that started the previous day, the town of Ine in Kyoto Prefecture on Monday shut down its call center for inquiries and consulted with police.

According to the town, people who called the center were critical of the vaccination plan, saying there are risks for children receiving COVID vaccinations and that young women could become infertile from the shots.

Some of the callers accused the town of "committing murder" or made death threats against staff members. The volume of protest calls overwhelmed the center's capacity, forcing the town to close it.

After the center was no longer taking calls, over 100 additional protest calls were made to the town government. All of these calls were from outside the town, suggesting the callers were not local residents.

The town also received protest messages through over 20 emails and eight faxes.
Yeah, Japan has anti-vaxxers. I do wonder whether they already finished vaccinating all of the adults who want it first though. Where I live, they still haven't finished withe the senior citizens yet.
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The wops watch their goombah Faucci and see that he is on the take. They say "what is the science, exactly?". What is when the purveyors are bent?

One of the few occasions where I am in favor of capitol punishment is where a person betrays a public trust.
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ed wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:34 pm The wops watch their goombah Faucci and see that he is on the take. They say "what is the science, exactly?". What is when the purveyors are bent?

One of the few occasions where I am in favor of capitol punishment is where a person betrays a public trust.
What are you saying in plain English, Ed?
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They don't trust the "science" as presented.
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THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
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COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH)– A Cleveland doctor and anti-vaccine advocate went on a rant about 5G internet and metal objects sticking to the bodies of vaccinated people while giving testimony at an Ohio House Health Committee meeting Tuesday.

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny testified in favor of House Bill 248 which would keep a business or the government from requiring vaccinations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Tenpenny
Sherri Tenpenny is an American anti-vaccination activist who supports the disproved hypothesis that vaccines cause autism.[1] An osteopathic physician, she is the author of four books opposing vaccination.

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Tenpenny graduated with a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Toledo in 1980 and received a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine degree from the Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine in Missouri in 1984.
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Why Your Vaccinated Arm Isn’t Magnetic, You Big Silly Goose
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Godfucking dammit. I got at least four magnetic compasses including a boy scout one that responds to pedos and none of them indicates I'm magnetic. Shall I schedule another vaccine? I sincerely want spoons sticking to my nose.
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Anti-vaxxers are weaponizing Yelp to punish bars that require vaccine proof

Negative spam reviews are destroying bars and restaurants as they attempt to re-open safely.

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Spamming review portals with negative ratings is not a new phenomenon. Throughout the pandemic, the tactic has also been deployed to attack bars and restaurants that enforced mask-wearing for safety. As pandemic restrictions have lifted, businesses like Mother’s Ruin have sought to ensure that safety by requiring proof of vaccination using state-sponsored apps like New York’s Excelsior Pass, vaccine passports, or simply flashing vaccine cards at the door — practices that have instigated a second surge of spam reviews.

These spam one-star reviews can be extremely damaging. The default mode for viewing reviews is in chronological order, from newest to oldest, which means a spam attack places fake reviews up top, making the most recent reviews that much more influential if you’re the victim of a concerted campaign.

While some companies have gotten around this issue on their own sites by verifying that reviewers are actual customers by reaching out to them via email and matching them with what they have on file, industry-leading platforms like Yelp and Google let anyone to rate and review a business.
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Ohio Gov. DeWine continues his push against a Statehouse proposal from majority Republicans who want to bar employers and schools from mandating vaccines.

The bill (HB 248) would do away with existing vaccine mandates and prevent any new requirements for COVID-19 vaccination shots.

But DeWine said it’s important to remember how far the nation has come by mandating vaccines for illnesses like measles.

“I think it’s important for us to remember what great strides have been made, how our lives have been changed by vaccines. Probably millions of people’s lives around the world have been changed for the better," DeWine said.
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Witness wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:24 am https://i.imgur.com/ALjrTq8.jpg

"We have homeopathic preparations to DRAIN the COVID vaccines MODERNA and PFIZER

Ask us for advice!"
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Pyrrho wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:57 pm
Link: https://twitter.com/JMBorchardt/status/1415413532427005961

I am ambivalent on this.

Generally, I am pro-vaccine. I got this one when it was available.

I am not so sure about mandating it, however. Someone in a low risk group (say under 40 and healthy) can weigh their own options. As long as everyone who wants it can get it and protect themselves, I am not convinced of the utility of forcing everyone else to get it.

I am not firm on that; I am open to changing my mind - but at the moment, I am not convinced a mandate is justified.

I don't think that opinion, alone, makes me "anti-vaxxer." But I'll listen.
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I'm uncertain as well. Although certain vaccinations (DPT, etc.) have long been required before a child begins K-12 education, requiring this specific vaccination for in-person school attendance seems akin to what my employer has required: proof of vaccination in order to work in the office. The choice of getting vaccinated against COVID-19 remains a personal choice in that situation.

Requiring COVID-19 vaccination for K-12 students before full FDA approval does seem a bit intrusive. I can understand a parent's hesitance. I would want to see a lot more about adverse events in children and any long-term adverse effects, absolutely. On the other hand, there have definitely been increases in cases after the school year begins, and I'd also want to prevent serious illness in my children. I'd also not want them to become carriers of the virus. But, clinical trials of the vaccine in children are not complete and it may be best to wait for those data along with thorough FDA review.

I think DeWine has taken as balanced an approach as he can.
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Newsmax host dangerously declares vaccines go ‘against nature’: Diseases are ‘supposed to’ wipe out people

Newsmax host Rob Schmitt on Monday dangerously declared he believes vaccines go "against nature" and diseases are "supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that's just kind of the way evolution goes."

Admitting he's "not a doctor," as Media Matters reports, Schmitt mused on-air, "I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I'm not a pro-vaxxer. I'm somebody that's looking at this thing and trying to figure it out."

"I've always thought about vaccines, and I always think about just nature, and the way everything works. And I feel like a vaccination in a weird way is just generally kind of going against nature," he claimed, ignoring the fact that all medicine in theory does too – if you define evolution in the most basic "survival of the fittest" terms.

"Like, I mean, if there is some disease out there -- maybe there's just an ebb and flow to life where something's supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that's just kind of the way evolution goes. Vaccines kind of stand in the way of that. Do you follow what I'm saying? Does that make sense to somebody in medicine?"
https://www.rawstory.com/rob-schmitt/ (video at the link)

I presume he has renounced medicine and only eats wild plants and animals? :roll:
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...and in keeping with the way things work these days, he's received his reward in terms of free publicity and notoriety and will only profit from what he said. Pathetic but that's the way it is: think of the most outrageous crap you can think of and you get fame and fortune for it.
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Aggressive anti-vaxxers target well-known Slovak doctors

Tensions over vaccines in Slovakia continue to grow as anti-vaxxers have started to protest in front of the houses of pro-vaccine doctors daily Denník N has reported.

The protesters did not manage to directly attack the doctors, Pavel Jarčuška, Vladimír Krčméry and Elena Prokopová, but were aggressive towards their neighbours.

Prokopová, one of Slovakia’s most prominent paediatricians, has spoken widely in the media about the need to vaccinate children but is now rethinking whether to continue this campaign.

“I find it absurd that society allows this. They try to jeopardise my personal integrity only because I give my expert opinions,” she told Dennik N.

Attacks on doctors have been condemned by several government politicians, including Prime Minister Eduard Heger, who deemed it inadmissible. “I must call on the prosecutor’s office and the police to monitor these activities closely and to intervene vigorously if the situation so requires,” Heger wrote in a Facebook post.

Police have already announced that it will not tolerate any future anti-vax attacks. “We will take all necessary measures to protect people. I urge people who feel threatened by the actions of such people to report it and we will act,” Interior Minsiter Roman Mikulec has said.
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Witness wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:26 am
Newsmax host dangerously declares vaccines go ‘against nature’: Diseases are ‘supposed to’ wipe out people

Newsmax host Rob Schmitt on Monday dangerously declared he believes vaccines go "against nature" and diseases are "supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that's just kind of the way evolution goes."

Admitting he's "not a doctor," as Media Matters reports, Schmitt mused on-air, "I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I'm not a pro-vaxxer. I'm somebody that's looking at this thing and trying to figure it out."

"I've always thought about vaccines, and I always think about just nature, and the way everything works. And I feel like a vaccination in a weird way is just generally kind of going against nature," he claimed, ignoring the fact that all medicine in theory does too – if you define evolution in the most basic "survival of the fittest" terms.

"Like, I mean, if there is some disease out there -- maybe there's just an ebb and flow to life where something's supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that's just kind of the way evolution goes. Vaccines kind of stand in the way of that. Do you follow what I'm saying? Does that make sense to somebody in medicine?"
https://www.rawstory.com/rob-schmitt/ (video at the link)

I presume he has renounced medicine and only eats wild plants and animals? :roll:
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It is a gross fallacy to compare the covid vaccines to the vaccines for smallpox, polio, etc. They have nowhere near the same mortality rate, especially for children under 12, which the covid vaccine is not even approved yet.
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Ben Trovado wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:32 pm I am ambivalent on this.

Generally, I am pro-vaccine. I got this one when it was available.

I am not so sure about mandating it, however. Someone in a low risk group (say under 40 and healthy) can weigh their own options. As long as everyone who wants it can get it and protect themselves, I am not convinced of the utility of forcing everyone else to get it.

I am not firm on that; I am open to changing my mind - but at the moment, I am not convinced a mandate is justified.

I don't think that opinion, alone, makes me "anti-vaxxer." But I'll listen.

There's an argument to be made that people who don't get vaccinated aren't just putting their own health at risk, but also increasing the risk for others. Kinda like why we don't let people drink and drive.

Recent example in the news:

Veteran dies of treatable illness as COVID fills hospital beds, leaving doctors "playing musical chairs"
When U.S. Army veteran Daniel Wilkinson started feeling sick last week, he went to the hospital in Bellville, Texas, outside Houston. His health problem wasn't related to COVID-19, but Wilkinson needed advanced care, and with the coronavirus filling up intensive care beds, he couldn't get it in time to save his life.
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Last Saturday, Wilkinson's mother rushed him to Bellville Medical Center, just three doors down from their home.
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Belville emergency room physician Dr. Hasan Kakli treated Wilkinson, and discovered that he had gallstone pancreatitis, something the Belville hospital wasn't equipped to treat.

"I do labs on him, I get labs, and the labs come back, and I'm at the computer, and I have one of those 'Oh, crap' moments. If that stone doesn't spontaneously come out and doesn't resolve itself, that fluid just builds up, backs up into the liver, backs up into the pancreas, and starts to shut down those organs. His bloodwork even showed that his kidneys were shutting down."

Kakli told Begnaud that his patient was dying right in front of him. Wilkinson needed a higher level of care, but with hospitals across Texas and much of the South overwhelmed with COVID patients, there was no place for him.

Kakli recalled making multiple phone calls to other facilities, only to get a lot of, "sorry … sorry … sorry," in reply. Places had the specialists to do the procedure, but because of how sick he was Wilkinson needed intensive care, and they didn't have an ICU bed to put him in.
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Imagine risking your life to try to save the lives of people who proudly announce with their dying breaths that you are the enemy.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:13 am There's an argument to be made that people who don't get vaccinated aren't just putting their own health at risk, but also increasing the risk for others. Kinda like why we don't let people drink and drive.

Recent example in the news:

Veteran dies of treatable illness as COVID fills hospital beds, leaving doctors "playing musical chairs"
Is South Texas full of patients that have turned down vaccines, or from the 20%40% of the people coming into the country and being set loose that are positive for COVID?

However, if a relatively high percentage of hospitalized cases are for low risk people -- say under 40 with no co-morbidities -- who nonetheless end up n hospital, then I'd say the point is stronger. Have we any idea is that is the case?