This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

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http://www.startribune.com/in-minnesota ... 420786463/
Anti-vaccine groups step up outreach to Minnesota Somali families over measles outbreak
The groups' message for a meeting planned for Sunday at the Brian Coyle Community Center in Minneapolis: "The epidemic is autism, not measles."
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/measles-out ... ns-dozens/
An outbreak of measles in Minnesota has sickened more than 30 children in recent weeks, primarily in the state's large Somali-American community, where many parents avoid the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine because of unfounded fears that it causes autism.

"This has nothing to do with being Somali, it has everything to do with being unvaccinated," Kris Ehresmann, infectious disease director of the Minnesota Department of Health, told CBS Minnesota last week as the number of cases grew.

Somalis are just the latest example of a tight-knit community in which the highly contagious disease has gained a foothold in the U.S. in recent years.

"With Somalis, we know that it's a community that's been targeted for misinformation from the anti-vaccine community and so that's a bit distressing," she said.
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One might think that the anti-vaccinators are racists.

One might think that, I could not possibly comment.

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Michigan mother jailed for refusing to vaccinate her son

Rebecca Bredow would not let her nine-year-old be immunised after initially agreeing with the father to do so.

Her ex-husband has now been awarded temporary primary custody in order to get the boy the jab People who do not speak Proper English use such words.

Michigan parents are legally allowed to skip or delay their children's vaccinations due to personal beliefs.

But Bredow fell foul of the law because she reneged on agreements with her former spouse dating back to November 2016 to have the boy immunised.
The mother-of-two was sentenced on Wednesday for contempt of court after flouting a court order last week to have her son vaccinated. So, unfortunately, this is more legal consequence than a legal recognition that her refusal represents harm to the child.

She and her ex-husband decided at the time of their child's birth that they would space out See, this is what not having guns but having women as leaders gets you. See: Asthmatic and his Fag-o-Cycle. We need to send them some Freedom and delay jabs for their son.

The couple separated in 2008, according to ABC News, but they shared parental custody and the father still wanted the boy vaccinated.

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The positive note is I looked at coverage. I expected the "Jane, You Ignorant Slut!" tactic of "Here is someone who may actually know the subject and opposing him is some Actress who snuffs paint thinner!" in order to be "balanced"
Really, Dr. Important, you don't believe people can try homeopathy for rectal beaver infestation if they believe it works?
No. Even Faux's coverage had a lawyer who not only explained how she legally fucked up, she did not try the "though she has a right to determine what previously eradicated diseases other children will die from" apologetics. The medical expert simply damned her and, Heavens to Betsy, even the Talking Head agreed and suggest she should lose any custody.

No word on whether or not Trump has tweeted or Hillary is "Standing with Me Her."

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Why can't the English use proper English?

:nope

It's called an inoculation. A jab is a kind of punch.
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Ars Technica wrote:Naturopath teaches real doctors something—a new way to cause liver damage

In a medical first, a 38-year-old man with gallstones developed severe liver damage and jaundice after following the delusional advice of a practitioner of naturopathy, a pseudoscientific system that eschews evidence-based medicine.

Writing in BMJ Case Reports, doctors report that the naturopath told the man to take an excessive amount of Epsom salt for "stone dissolution." Such overdoses of the salt, aka magnesium sulfate, can cause diarrhea, breathing problems, kidney injury, and cardiac arrhythmias. But this is the first time doctors have ever reported that it caused liver damage.
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↑ That made me laugh!
Ars Technica wrote:Herbal remedies embraced by naturopaths, alt med widely linked to liver cancers

According to a study published Wednesday in Science Translational Medicine, traditional components of herbal remedies used throughout Asia are widely implicated in liver cancers there. In Taiwan, for instance, 78 percent of 98 liver tumors sampled displayed a pattern of mutations consistent with exposure to herbs containing aristolochic acids (AAs). These are carcinogenic components found in a variety of centuries-old herbal remedies said to treat everything from snakebites to gout, asthma, and pain.
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Essentia fires about 50 workers over refusal to get flu shots
Essentia Health has fired roughly 50 employees who refused to get flu vaccinations under a new policy that pits personal choice against public health interests.

Hundreds of workers got their shots last week after being warned that they would otherwise lose their jobs, the Duluth-based health system said Tuesday.

But a fraction of workers still refused and did not meet Essentia’s medical or religious criteria for exemptions, according to Dr. Rajesh Prabhu, an infectious disease specialist and Essentia’s chief patient safety officer.
Religious criteria? Of course, if you believe in the right Sky-Daddy you are exempt. :roll:

Labor unions are also unhappy:
Three unions objected to Essentia’s policy, which was imposed to reduce the spread of influenza in the health system’s 15 hospitals and 75 clinics in northern Minnesota and three other states.

The United Steelworkers, which represents some of the workers, unsuccessfully sought a federal court injunction to block the company from firing workers who refused vaccine.

The Minnesota Nurses Association (MNA) and the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees, Council 65, also lodged complaints about the practice with the National Labor Relations Board. The nursing union announced Monday that it would file grievances on behalf of any nurse who lost a job over the flu shot policy.

“We tried to sit down with management, but Essentia executives told us they intend to follow through with terminations and mandatory flu shots regardless,” said Steve Strand, co-chair of the MNA’s bargaining unit in Duluth.

As many as 400 doctors, nurses or other workers hadn’t been vaccinated as of Nov. 15, when Essentia reported 97 percent compliance among its 15,000 employees. But many of those holdouts got shots or filed exemptions before the company’s Nov. 20 deadline.

Prabhu said 99 percent of Essentia’s workers have now complied — though the company is still reviewing some exemption requests.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote: A jab is a kind of punch.
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What's in this punch? Listy says he's tasted this before! :shock:
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You trying to be a wiseguy with me?
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/measles-cases- ... an-1662654
Measles cases in Italy skyrocket as populists call for vaccination ban
Italy recorded 5,006 measles cases last year, over 25% of the European total.
The country's immunisation rate is 87%, significantly lower than the recommended 95% threshold.
Northern League and Five Star Movement have vowed to scrap a vaccination law ahead of the March election.
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Reading through that Twitter thread is an exercise in :cowbell:
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Doctors 'flabbergasted' that half of parents think flu shot causes the flu: 'It's impossible'
“I’m flabbergasted,” William Schaffner, MD, an infectious disease specialist and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, tells Yahoo Lifestyle. “I and many others have been saying for over 20 years that you can’t get the flu from the flu vaccine. I don’t know how to say it any louder. You cannot get the flu from the flu vaccine. That’s a myth.”
But it's not a suprise to me that beliefs like this tend to be immune to pronouncements from experts.

Hell, skeptics have been debunking various woo beliefs for longer than that, but the beliefs still persist.

It may be impossible for the flu vaccine to give you the disease, but flu vaccines can provoke an immune reaction. In fact that's what they're supposed to do. An the immune reaction can cause symptoms similar to a flu, although milder. Or you might catch a cold or a different strain of the flu, or even the flu itself before the protection kicks in.
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WHO GOT TO YOU?!!!

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OMFG I catched teh autizm from de floo shoot!!!1!1!11!!ELEVENTY!!1
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Embarrassed CDC Announces It Accidentally Switched Flu Shots With HIV
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ATLANTA—Informing the more than 150 million Americans affected by the error that the mistake was “totally our bad,” embarrassed officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Thursday that they had accidentally switched all 2018 flu shots with samples of HIV. “Oh, god, we really and truly screwed the pooch on this one. We wish to say we’re deeply sorry, especially to the 59.1 percent of children in the U.S. who received what they had every right to expect were influenza vaccines this fall. Not that it’s anywhere near adequate consolation, but we’re offering a full refund as a partial apology for infecting you with HIV,” said CDC director Robert Redfield, who explained that the two kinds of vials are stocked “really close to each other, and look practically identical.” “We promise to be way more careful in the future. On the plus side, your HIV is only in the acute infection stage, so many of you have a decent amount of time before you develop full-blown acquired immune deficiency syndrome. Yes, obviously, the ideal scenario is to have no life-threatening spectrum of infections destroying your white blood cells, especially—and this is extra embarrassing—during flu season, like it is right now. Man, we were so adamant about you getting these shots in the first place, too.” Redfield encouraged Americans to schedule another flu shot just as soon as the CDC followed up on reports that in the rush to correct the error, some replacement batches had been mistakenly swapped out for anthrax.

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I realize that's the Onion but I wonder if they should be making jokes like that? :notsure:
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Dude, after
God Answers Prayers Of Paralyzed Little Boy

'No,' Says God

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SAN FRANCISCO–For as long as he can remember, 7-year-old Timmy Yu has had one precious dream: From the bottom of his heart, he has hoped against hope that God would someday hear his prayer to walk again. Though many thought Timmy's heavenly plea would never be answered, his dream finally came true Monday, when the Lord personally responded to the wheelchair-bound boy's prayer with a resounding no.

"I knew that if I just prayed hard enough, God would hear me," said the joyful Timmy, surrounded by stuffed animals sent by well-wishing Christians from around the globe, as he sat in the wheelchair to which he will be confined for the rest of his life. "And now my prayer has been answered. I haven't been this happy since before the accident, when I could walk and play with the other children like a normal boy."

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There's No 'My Kid Has Cancer' In Team

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All right, team! Look alive! This is the big one. This is the week we finally pull into the sales lead, and that means total focus.

Now, as you no doubt know, the free trip to Vegas for the year's highest-selling office is within our reach. If we can keep the momentum of the past week going, we can pass the Denver office and take this thing. But that means we must all work together as a team. Every one of you is a cog in a well-oiled sales machine.

And I don't want to hear any excuses. That means no more 45-minute lunches. No more lingering around the break room. And, most of all, no more of this "But my daughter is going in for chemotherapy tomorrow" business. From anybody. I'm not going to name any names, but I've heard that one a couple of times this week, and that's a couple times too many. I hope I only have to say this once: There is no "My kid has cancer" in "Team."

I know, I know. Cancer sucks. Hey, I'm not happy your kid has it, either. But the way I look at it, cancer's not a reason to get slacking, it's a reason to get cracking! You think your kid's chemo is gonna be free? You gonna say to the doctor, "Hey, I decided not to go to work this week because I'm too upset about my kid's cancer, so how about you give me that chemo for free?" See how far that'll get you! (It certainly won't get you to Vegas!) As we say in the business, no COM-mission, no RE-mission.

I've seen too many salespeople take a nosedive in this business because they let their terminally ill kid hold them back. They start visiting the kid in the hospital, their cold calls drop off, and their sales numbers suffer. Next thing you know, it's not just the kid who's dying, but the hopes of an entire sales team that wants to win a Vegas trip!

You hear what I'm saying? You're part of a team, here. If you miss a pitch, you might miss a sale, and if you miss a sale, we all might miss winning that trip! Believe you me, we've all got plenty of problems we could use as excuses to miss work, but we don't want to let our team down! Do you see Jerry staying home because of his trial separation? Or Brian because of his car trouble?

What do we sing "The Team Song" at the start of every day for? You think it's just so we can hear Glen howling off-key? (Ha, ha, I'm just pulling your leg there, Glen.) What it comes down to is, we're Teamers, not Tumors!

And, while I'm on the subject, what about that trip a certain someone took to Disneyworld recently? You think the rest of us wouldn't love to spend five days whirling around on teacups? You can go to Disneyworld next year, two years from now, ten years from now! I realize the Make-A-Wish Foundation paid for the trip, but that's not reason enough. Hell, I've got tons of frequent-flyer miles piled up, but you don't see me taking off for Bora Bora smack-dab in the middle of our final sales drive, do you?

Did you even try to give the sales pitch to your kid's doctors? The nurses? The Make-A-Wish guys? See, that's what I'm talking about. You're letting opportunities slip through your fingers, and that hurts the team! We'd be the leaders for that Vegas trip if not for your lollygagging and lack of focus. Team has four letters. T-E-A-M. Here's an easy way to remember it: Take Every Avenue Manageable. Do you see the letters "T-H-E D-O-C-T-O-R-S S-A-Y T-H-E C-A-N-C-E-R H-A-S S-P-R-E-A-D T-O H-E-R B-R-A-I-N" somewhere in there? I don't.

This job is about one thing: moving vacuum cleaners. Everything else is a blind alley, kiddo.

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Some fools will believe it. But you can't help fools. I pity the fools.
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Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Someone might get offended by the other ones, but they don't have to do with vaccines. But if idiots believe this one is true, or that something like this is even possible, it could potentially have a negative public health consequence. It is funny though.
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I noticed they took down or you cannot find the Japanese original "African-American Neighborhood Terrorized By Ask Murderer."

I think I posted the one where "As a Mother" the person gets right to decide which previously eradicated childhood diseases roar back. Anyone still citing The Onion as real news deserves the derision they get.

Then we have The Pros and Cons of Vaccinating Children:

Pros
  • Helps out pharmaceutical industry
    Get to puncture child with needle
    Old family syringe shop depends on it
    Habituates children to the pain of existence
    Flies in face of science by discrediting single unanimously refuted paper from 10 years ago
    Healthier children equals friendlier waiters at Chili’s down the line
    Could save a few million children’s lives
Cons
  • You have to go to a place
    Chance of developing autism 100 percent
    Puts the onus of character-building entirely on sports
    Without suffering through diphtheria, the flu, and measles, American children will become effete, pampered do-nothings
    Free lollipops promote unhealthy eating habits
    Child won’t get to be kindergarten’s Typhoid Mary
    Bullies parents into slavishly following actions recommended by decades of physicians’ peer-reviewed research that establishes an irrefutable scientific consensus
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Because of Anti-Vaxxers, 37 People in Europe Have Died of Measles This Year
An outbreak of measles is rampaging across Europe, taking a huge toll. In the first six months of 2018, there were 41,000 recorded cases of the easily preventable viral infection.
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Yup. It went from something that was a paragraph in a text book on the clinical practice to endemic.

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Arizona cancels vaccine program after backlash from parents who don't vaccinate

The state of Arizona has canceled a vaccine education program after receiving complaints from parents who don't immunize their school-age children.

The pilot online course, modeled after programs in Oregon and Michigan, was created in response to the rising number of Arizona schoolchildren skipping school-required immunizations against diseases like measles, mumps and whooping cough because of their parents' beliefs.

But some parents, who were worried the optional course was going to become mandatory, complained to the Governor's Regulatory Review Council, which reviews regulations to ensure they are necessary and do not adversely affect the public. The six-member council is appointed by Gov. Doug Ducey, with an ex-officio general counsel.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:28 am Because of Anti-Vaxxers, 37 People in Europe Have Died of Measles This Year
An outbreak of measles is rampaging across Europe, taking a huge toll. In the first six months of 2018, there were 41,000 recorded cases of the easily preventable viral infection.
. . .
Another article on the subject: Are Anti-Vaxxers to Blame for Europe's Current Measles Outbreak? .
tl;dr: partly. Sometimes vaccine batches are faulty, some rural areas have bad coverage, &c.
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Witness wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:17 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:28 am Because of Anti-Vaxxers, 37 People in Europe Have Died of Measles This Year
An outbreak of measles is rampaging across Europe, taking a huge toll. In the first six months of 2018, there were 41,000 recorded cases of the easily preventable viral infection.
. . .
Another article on the subject: Are Anti-Vaxxers to Blame for Europe's Current Measles Outbreak? .
tl;dr: partly. Sometimes vaccine batches are faulty, some rural areas have bad coverage, &c.
The answer is "Yes. Anti-Vaxxers are to Blame for Europe's Current Measles Outbreak."
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Indonesian ‘vaccine fatwa’ sends measles immunization rates plummeting

Millions of parents around Indonesia have eschewed the vaccine in recent months, after Islamic clerics declared the MR vaccine "haram," or forbidden under Islamic law because pig components are used in its manufacturing. Vaccine coverage has plummeted as a result, alarming public health experts who worry that the world's largest Muslim-majority country could see new waves of measles and more miscarriages and birth defects resulting from rubella infections during pregnancy.

Indonesia has long used a locally produced measles vaccine as part of its childhood vaccination scheme, but coverage has been patchy, and until recently, the country had one of the highest measles burdens in the world, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). Last year, as part of a WHO-led plan to eliminate measles and rubella globally by 2020, Indonesia switched to a combined MR vaccine, produced by the Serum Institute of India in Mumbai. The Ministry of Health launched an ambitious catchup campaign targeting 67 million children aged 9 months to 15 years. The first phase, in 2017 on the island of Java, was a success; all six provinces reached the 95% coverage target, and measles and rubella cases dropped by more than 90%.

But the rollout to the rest of the country, originally scheduled for August and September of this year, ran into trouble. Just before it began, the Indonesian Ulama Council (MUI) of the Riau Islands, a provincial Islamic body, raised concerns that the new MR vaccine had not been certified as "halal," or lawful, by the central MUI in Jakarta, the highest authority in such matters. The letter asked for vaccinations to be postponed. The news quickly spread throughout the country, stoking distrust among parents.

To salvage the campaign, the health ministry in August lobbied the central MUI to issue a fatwa—a ruling under Islamic law—declaring the vaccine halal. Instead, the council declared the MR vaccine haram, based on its ingredients and manufacturing process. Like many vaccines, it is made using several porcine components.
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Religion strikes again!!
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Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:04 am Religion strikes again!!
As an aside, it's become popular in some circles on the right lately to argue that "Islam isn't a religion." :lol:

Don't believe me? Just Google "islam not a religion".

I think it's a way to justify two conflicting ideas, the idea of "religious liberty" which is popular on the right, with hatred of Muslims, and the desire to crack down on them (no "mosque" at ground zero, prevent Muslims from immigrating, etc.), which is also popular on the right. Conveniently, if we define Islam as something other than a religion, we can be for both things at the same time!! :lol:

(The fallacy of course is the No True Scotsman fallacy.)
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Indeed.

But this is an old way of dealing with any dissent or challenge. Islam does the same thing.

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World's First Honey Bee Vaccine Seeks to Save Dying Pollinators

Great, now we're going to have autistic honey bees. :|
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Will make them start voting libertarian.

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As long as they carry out their pollination duties as required. But the minute we don't get 4 harvests a year, off with their little heads!
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Vaccine scaremongering banned on app for mothers

Mush, an app for mothers to socialize with other mothers, has made this responsible announcement:

Here at Mush, we want to take a stand and say a defiant no to the anti-vax brigade. We understand that everyone wants to do what's best for their children and protect them from harm, but we know—as do the scientists—that they are much safer when we vaccinate them.

So, how are we going to implement this?

We will block or remove all anti-vax posts with urgency
We will give formal warnings to delete the accounts of Mush users who comment on other mums' posts with anti-vax messaging
We will permanently ban users who are on Mush to spread this message
[Why we're protecting mums from anti-vax scaremongering. Mush. Feb 7, 2019]

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