The Official Ebola Thread

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I suppose it is getting big enough to warrant its own thread.

Where we stand

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I say 'we' in the 'them' sense since it seems to be mostly contained at the western tip of Africa. Logos and Nigeria suddenly appeared on the map on July 24.

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It certainly isn't spreading like wildfire but it is spreading.

Here's a tracker where one can watch the progression of the outbreak on a map.

http://healthmap.org/ebola/

So. I know that most folks here have zombie contingency plans. And many elements of those plans will apply to this. So we're probably okay for now.
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Does it have something to do with eating fruit bats?

Yeah, I've never heard of it being a problem outside of Africa. Extremely virulent and deadly if you catch it, but not extremely contagious is my understanding.
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Anaxagoras wrote:Does it have something to do with eating fruit bats?

Yeah, I've never heard of it being a problem outside of Africa. Extremely virulent and deadly if you catch it, but not extremely contagious is my understanding.
It requires direct contact with bodily fluids. If you get it, you involuntarily create a great deal of bodily fluids. They pretty much live in each other's bodily fluids.

Still, best to at least have an unannounced Zombie Attack drill with the family. That's a good idea regardless.
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I blame Obama.
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Rob Lister wrote:I suppose it is getting big enough to warrant its own thread.

Where we stand

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Nigeria dragging its feet as usual.






What?

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"My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Ebola." - Sarah Palin

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Rob Lister wrote:http://static.dyp.im/gDTmI5LhqU/9496fca ... 5ef8bf.JPG
looks like a normal weekend in chicago.
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I've noticed that traffic is getting ridiculous on the highways, airports, and theme parks, even on a regular weekday in the rain.

We could use a little more Ebola here in the US.

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Do we really want to end up being crushed to death on a train like in Japan. Is that how you would prefer to go?
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A quarantine centre for suspected Ebola patients in the Liberian capital Monrovia has been attacked and looted by protesters, police say.

...

Officials said blood-stained bedding looted from the centre posed a serious infection risk.

The protesters were unhappy that patients were being brought in from other parts of the capital, the assistant health minister said.

Other reports suggested the protesters believed Ebola was a hoax and wanted to force the quarantine centre to close.

...

A senior police officer said blood-stained mattresses, beddings and medical equipment were taken from the centre.

"This is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen in my life", he said.
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"This is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen in my life"
Ebola may be a stupid fix. Let's see how it goes.

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One of them got away.

*Returns to the Lab*

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Rob Lister wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:Does it have something to do with eating fruit bats?

Yeah, I've never heard of it being a problem outside of Africa. Extremely virulent and deadly if you catch it, but not extremely contagious is my understanding.
It requires direct contact with bodily fluids. If you get it, you involuntarily create a great deal of bodily fluids. They pretty much live in each other's bodily fluids.

Still, best to at least have an unannounced Zombie Attack drill with the family. That's a good idea regardless.
By the way, the fruit bat thing is not off-base:

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/
Natural host of Ebola virus

In Africa, fruit bats, particularly species of the genera Hypsignathus monstrosus, Epomops franqueti and Myonycteris torquata, are considered possible natural hosts for Ebola virus. As a result, the geographic distribution of Ebolaviruses may overlap with the range of the fruit bats.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/ebola-outbr ... ars-296754
It seems that once an outbreak has occurred, health workers educate many in the area of outbreak, teaching them to avoid contact with infected others and this contains the spread and prevents future outbreaks, to a certain extent. Yet, when the Ebola virus goes into hiding, it continues to lurk in what is known as a natural reservoir, in this case, the fruit bat. In fact, recent studies have shown three species of fruit bats carried the infection in their bodies without symptoms. Since fruit bats are commonly eaten by people in central Africa, where protein is scarce, scientists believe this may be the root cause of the illness. In fact, the virus causing Marburg — a form of hemorrhagic fever similar to Ebola — commonly hides within bats.
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(Newser) – Ebola cases in West Africa could multiply sixfold, affecting up to 20,000 as the virus "continues to accelerate," the World Health Organization said today, per Reuters. Some 1,552 people have now died out of the 3,069 cases reported—though the actual number of cases could be four times that amount, the AP reports. "More than 40% of the total number of cases have occurred within the past 21 days," the UN health agency said, noting an "unprecedented" number of health workers have been hit. The latest figures do not include cases in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where a different strain of Ebola is wrecking havoc.
http://www.newser.com/story/193124/un-w ... cases.html
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Anaxagoras wrote:Does it have something to do with eating fruit bats?

Yeah, I've never heard of it being a problem outside of Africa. Extremely virulent and deadly if you catch it, but not extremely contagious is my understanding.
Correct. Primary sources on Ebola information state that it is only spread via direct contact with bodily fluids. It wasn't made clear if large droplets could pose a risk... but here is the article anyway;
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/
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Senagal and Congo have decided to join the party. Sierra Leone is in quarantine lock down: everyone confined to their home.
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wow. Liberia is getting bad.
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need graphs
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ed wrote:need graphs
eh? no thanks. seems like a lot of work.
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For perspective influenza kills 250,000 to 500,000 every year.
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Why do you hate Africans, Anax?

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This headline made me scratch my head:

3,000 U.S. military members to fight Ebola in Africa
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration will assign 3,000 U.S. military personnel to West Africa "to combat and contain" what senior administration officials call an "extraordinarily serious epidemic."

This new assistance will supply medical and logistical support to overwhelmed local health care systems and increase the number of beds needed to isolate and treat victims of the Ebola crisis.

President Obama planned to announce the expanded effort Tuesday during a visit to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, amid alarm that the outbreak could spread. Officials fear the deadly virus could mutate into a more easily transmitted disease.

The new U.S. muscle comes after appeals from officials in the African region and from aid organizations for a heightened U.S. role in combatting the outbreak, which has been blamed for more than 2,200 deaths so far.

Administration officials said Monday that the new initiatives aim to:

-- Train as many as 500 health care workers each week.

-- Erect 17 heath care facilities in the region each with 100 beds.

-- Set up a joint command headquartered in Monrovia, Liberia, to coordinate between U.S. and international relief efforts.

-- Provide home health care kits to hundreds of thousands of households, including 50,000 that the U.S. Agency for International Development will deliver to Liberia this week.

-- Carry out a home- and community-based campaign to train local populations on how to handle exposed patients.

The officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the plans ahead of Mr. Obama's announcement, said the cost of the effort would come from $500 million in overseas contingency operations. The Pentagon has asked Congress to redirect funds in order to carry out humanitarian efforts in Iraq and West Africa.
Boy, I hope no GIs catch Ebola.

Their mission doesn't seem to involve direct contact with infected patients, but still.

See my post above about perspective.
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Not opposed. This is good drill.

Squinting at this, however
-- Provide home health care kits to hundreds of thousands of households, including 50,000 that the U.S. Agency for International Development will deliver to Liberia this week.
I wanna know what I'm paying for. I want details on these kits.

It is interesting that this is not being done under the auspices of WHO. True, WHO would somehow manage to make the death count higher through some unfathomable incompetency, but they are the ones we 'look to' in managing things like this.

Then again, I'm not completely sure the U.S. will come out of this unhated and reviled.

Meanwhile:
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I worry about Murphy's Law though. I don't know what exactly will go wrong with this mission, but I fear that something that they didn't think of will. Remember that some of the people there don't believe Ebola is real. The next conspiracy theory may be that Ebola is real, but it's a creation of the US government so they would have a pretext to send troops there.
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Anaxagoras wrote:I worry about Murphy's Law though. I don't know what exactly will go wrong with this mission, but I fear that something that they didn't think of will.
Sending in the military to handle a medical emergency. What could possibly go wrong? :)

It is nevertheless, good drill.
The next conspiracy theory may be that Ebola is real, but it's a creation of the US government so they would have a pretext to send troops there.
Gotta blame someone.
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An Ebola smiley.



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Guinea Halts Part of Ebola Outreach After Seven Murdered
By Karim Camara
The Guinean government said it is stopping Ebola education activities in the country's southeast after seven missing health workers and journalists were murdered there this week. Two other workers remain missing.

Meanwhile, Sierra Leone Sierra Leone on Friday began a controversial nationwide three-day lockdown as it struggles to contain the deadly Ebola virus, which the U.N. Security Council this week declared a "threat to international peace and security."

In Guinea's southeastern town of Wome, the bodies of four Ebola campaigners and three local journalists traveling with them were discovered Thursday in a mass grave. They had been missing since angry residents attacked their convoy Tuesday.

The victims were traveling with a government delegation to Wome to raise awareness on Ebola.

Villagers attacked the convoy with stones and weapons and destroyed six vehicles. Other members of the delegation were beaten but managed to escape.

Team allegedly accused of lying

A local reporter told VOA by telephone that villagers accused the delegation of spreading lies about Ebola.

The delegation was trying to educate locals about Ebola, said Guinea's prime minister, Mohamed Said Fofanah. Villagers in Wome, as in other places, are still "intoxicated by information making them believed this sickness does not exist or was created to eliminate them."

Outreach activities have become "impossible" in the southeast, said Dr. Fanta Kabba, permanent secretary at the Ministry of Health. She said efforts there will now focus just on treating the sick.
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"Sierra Leone wrapped up its 72-hour shutdown on Sunday, with authorities reporting that the action aimed at containing the Ebola epidemic had uncovered up to 70 dead bodies in and around the capital. Most of the west African country's six million people were confined to their homes for a third straight day, with only essential workers such as health professionals and security forces exempt."
"Deputy Chief Medical Officer Sarian Kamara revealed that the authorities had received thousands of calls but only a handful of new patients in the Western Area covering Freetown and its surroundings. 'We were... able to confirm new cases which, had they not been discovered, would have greatly increased transmission,' she said. 'Up to this morning, we had 22 new cases.'"
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Is it accelerating?

Over 600 new cases in Liberia in 4 days.

I also wonder how many cases are out there we don't know about.
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Cautionary note: this is from WHO, a subsidiary of the UN, reported by USA Today, and must therefore be taken with a whole damn salt lick while sitting in a salt mine deep under a salt flat.
LONDON (AP) — New estimates from the World Health Organization warn the number of Ebola cases could hit 21,000 in six weeks unless efforts to curb the outbreak are ramped up.

Since the first cases were reported six months ago, the tally of cases in West Africa has reached an estimated 5,800 illnesses. WHO officials say cases are continuing to increase exponentially and Ebola could sicken people for years to come without better control measures.
Maybe that graph ed asked for earlier is a good idea. They go on to report what our guys at the CDC say. Our guys--with whom salt-grains may still be necessary but only a dash or two.
CDC scientists conclude there may be as many as 21,000 reported and unreported cases in just those two countries as soon as the end of this month, according to a draft version of the report obtained by The Associated Press. They also predict that the two countries could have a staggering 550,000 to 1.4 million cases by late January.
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Only as good as the data behind the the claim.

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Rob Lister wrote:[It requires direct contact with bodily fluids.
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Doctor X wrote:Only as good as the data behind the the claim.

--J.D.
That's the problem. There's a known unknown: some people no doubt have the disease but it hasn't been reported.

If you look at the Liberia data, there were more new cases reported between the 14th and the 18th than the 18th and the 22nd. Probably doesn't reflect an actual change in the rate of new infections though. Just when the data came in.
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n the worst-case scenario, the two countries could have a total of 21,000 cases of Ebola by Sept. 30 and 1.4 million cases by Jan. 20 if the disease keeps spreading without effective methods to contain it. These figures take into account the fact that many cases go undetected, and estimate that there are actually 2.5 times as many as reported.

In the best-case model, the epidemic in both countries would be “almost ended” by Jan. 20, the report said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/healt ... v=top-news

What a bunch of useless bureaucratic bullshit.
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Anaxagoras wrote:The next conspiracy theory may be that Ebola is real, but it's a creation of the US government so they would have a pretext to send troops there.
Bingo:

http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/20 ... _ebola.php
September 26, 2014
The Deadly Stupidities Around Ebola

Posted by Derek

It's not all that often that you can say "Now this is a person who's going to get people killed". But I'm willing to say that about Cyril Broderick of Delaware State. He's Liberian-born, and has written an article for a newspaper in Monrovia telling Liberians that the Ebola virus is a manufactured bioweapon from the pharmaceutical companies and the US Department of Defense. And he goes on to say the the WHO, Doctors Without Borders, and the CDC are all in on the plot. Isn't that nice?

This in a region where suspicions run so high that doctors, officials, and aid workers are being killed by angry mobs already. Now Prof. Broderick has given his Liberian countrymen more reason to fear some of the people who are best equipped, of anyone on this suffering world, to actually help them. If GSK's Ebola vaccine actually proves effective, if a rapacious evil pharma company actually comes up with a way to stop the disease and turns it over to people like the WHO and Doctors Without Borders to go into West Africa and administer it, stuff like what Professor Broderick is spewing will make it that much harder to accomplish anything with it. People will hide rather than get vaccinated and attack the people coming in to save their lives. Broderick and Matthias Rath, who's urged HIV patients to throw away their retroviral drugs, are in the same category and I am ashamed to be on the same planet with them.

And all because of a bunch of stuck-together conspiracy theories, chew-toys for halfwits. It would be easier to laugh at if it weren't getting people killed, patients and medical workers alike. Schiller was right: against stupidity, the Gods themselves fight in vain.
And here's a Washington Post article. This fuck is a professor in the US!

A professor in U.S. is telling Liberians that the Defense Department ‘manufactured’ Ebola

Delaware State University associate professor Cyril Broderick

Does this sort of thing fall under "academic freedom"? Associate professor means he doesn't have tenure, right? That means they can fire him, right?
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I sometimes think these people should be able to be prosecuted for the deaths their ignorance causes, particularly when it is willful and malicious.

Unfortunately in this case, "associate professors" have the first layer of tenure.

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:Does this sort of thing fall under "academic freedom"? Associate professor means he doesn't have tenure, right? That means they can fire him, right?
They will not fire him.

Here's my "conspiracy theory":
His department head and the trustees of Delaware State are anti-American leftists who mean to do as much harm as possible.
A falsifiable prediction. We shall see.

They might be leftists but they would have to be outright loons to endorse these views.