Coronavirus: The Upsides

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Enough of the doom and gloom, fuckers.

Let's explore the upsides.

Telecommuting: Companies that would never consider telecommuting in a million years are trying it out on large scales, trial by fire, so to speak. Not only will they learn how to do it, they'll discover how easy it is to implement. I'm confident that most will learn that the benefits far outweigh the risks: an increase in production, primarily. They'll learn their 'trust' issues were way overrated.
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I may telecommute for the first time tomorrow. Looks like my company finally got the network stuff in place for it.

I'll test my computer tonight when I get home to see if I can connect. If it works, I should be telecommuting regularly pretty soon.

Considering my commute, about 90 minutes each way on crowded trains (usually standing room only, of course), it'll be nice to work from home once in a while.
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Been doing that for 3-4 weeks now. Did a certain amount of it before, during heavy workload times when I'd work into the night and over weekends to get shit done. Saves me from driving 60 miles a day.
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The lack of traffic is a delight
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I just had a virtual doctors appointment via video chat.

https://i.imgur.com/QG6YoI8.png

I'm having very bad hay fever this year that the OTC stuff won't handle. Much easier than going in.

Also maybe:

Huge advances in all fields related to epidemiology will result. This won't be the last epidemic.

Potentially huge advances in antivirals and other treatments may result.

Husbands and wives will rekindle their fading relationships, what with everybody staying home. Domestic murder rates may increase though.
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Update: I managed to install the VPN software and connect to my work computer with no trouble, so it looks like I'll be telecommuting tomorrow for the first time. After that, I guess it's still up in the air, but I don't see why they should need me to come in.
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9 months from now there will be a baby boom
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And every child born will be the first born child
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robinson wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:59 pm 9 months from now there will be a baby boom
robinson wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:59 pm And every child born will be the first born child

I don't know why you think that's an upside ... nor why it took you two posts to write it, but whatever.

Here's an upside: Thousands of hoarders are going to be stuck with a garage stacked to the rafters with 10,000 rolls of worthless toilet paper.
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Rob Lister wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:56 pm
robinson wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:59 pm 9 months from now there will be a baby boom
robinson wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:59 pm And every child born will be the first born child

I don't know why you think that's an upside ...
Its a humorous observation
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:54 pm Avoiding trouble by avoiding people.

Can't beat that. :)
Avoiding people is reward enough, no need to throw in trouble. :)
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I was practicing isolation long before it was popular
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Yea, will solitary confinement in a maximum security facility is good practice.
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I was doing it before it was cool. :roll:

Back in 2016, after my car accident, my boss realized the toll that 6 year of 90 minute commute was taking, so arranged to allow me to work from home 1 day a week until I could move closer to work. I was one of the first to have a VPN. Slowly, more and more office workers were given laptops with VPNs and were allowed to work from home one day a week or month depending on their position.

I enjoyed this arrangement until Teams was implemented and the COVID thing hit. Right now, half of my coworkers are working from home, and many of them don't have the same workload or number of responsibilities that I do. Its non stop distractions, not to mention having my wife and kids at home. It's actually more stressful than the office at this point.

In fact, the office is actually kind of nice these days. It's almost like an empty haunted building. You can almost hear the ghostly echoes in the halls.

Don't forget to draft your self evaluation so I can just re-arrange the wording a bit and sign it instead of writing your performance review. You're not getting a raise anyway because of the economyyyyyyy.......ooooOOOoooooo.......
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I noticed your TPS report was missing its cover page.

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Hi Ed!
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כובל םככ איםו 'ים שרא נקמקשאי צק
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A cable car that Nkamshakai saw in the dungeon?
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Now my company is finally talking about actually going paperless for real.
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Where will you put your hanko?





Let me rephrase that. . . .

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Anaxagoras wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:40 am Now my company is finally talking about actually going paperless for real.
No one is going paperless until the government passes a law declaring it so......a law that will no doubt be written on paper.
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Some here will appriciate this:

AA worldwide is using Zoom to hold meetings. I'm going to a San Diego meeting tonight with a friend (I'm in VA). I haven't been to many meetings in the last couple of years, so this will be fun maybe. Plus I can turn the volume down on the blowhards. They've always had some level of virtual meets but it's really catching on now, or so I hear. I don't know how they're passing the basket but I'm sure it will be easy.

P.S. I don't want to push this thread off-topic with the AA subject so if you want to comment on that specifically, here's an Award Winning Thread on this board
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Rob Lister wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:04 amZoom to hold meetings
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Thanks Witness, but interlopers are always welcome at AA meetings. If they want to streak through our zoom meeting butt-ass-naked, we'll grade them accordingly and continue our conversations.
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It occurs to me.

This would be the absolute best time to knock over a Museum Collection.

Gotta think on this.
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Yeah. that is what you need to do
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Moderna Announces Positive Interim Phase 1 Data for its mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1273) Against Novel Coronavirus
https://bit.ly/3g9Rzi2

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-re ... na-vaccine
After two doses all participants evaluated to date across the 25 µg and 100 µg dose cohorts seroconverted with binding antibody levels at or above levels seen in convalescent sera

mRNA-1273 elicited neutralizing antibody titer levels in all eight initial participants across the 25 µg and 100 µg dose cohorts, reaching or exceeding neutralizing antibody titers generally seen in convalescent sera

mRNA-1273 was generally safe and well tolerated

mRNA-1273 provided full protection against viral replication in the lungs in a mouse challenge model

Anticipated dose for Phase 3 study between 25 µg and 100 µg; expected to start in July
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none here..we do not have lockdown here in japan.

but it encourage people to be more hygeinic .
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Interesting effect (from two pre-publication papers):
Changes in premature birth rates during the Danish nationwide COVID-19 lockdown: a nationwide register-based prevalence proportion study

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Conclusions
The birth rate of extremely premature infants decreased significantly (~90 % reduction) during the Danish nationwide lockdown from a stable rate in the preceding five years. The reasons for this decrease are unclear. Identification of possible causal mechanisms might stimulate changes in clinical practice. Ideally, some cases of extreme prematurity are preventable which may decrease infant morbidity and mortality.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 1.full.pdf

Reduction in preterm births during the COVID-19 lockdown in Ireland: a natural experiment allowing analysis of data from the prior two decades.

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Conclusion: An unprecedented reduction in PTB [Pre Term Births] of VLBW [Very Low Birth Weight] infants was observed in one health region of Ireland during the COVID-19 lockdown. Potential determinants of this unique temporal trend reside in the summative socio-environmental impact of the COVID-19 dictated lockdown.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 1.full.pdf


If this is so, clearly modern lifestyle isn't very good for making kids. :|
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Moderna's vaccine candidate enters Phase 3 trials.

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-re ... inst-covid

That is very fast progress.

https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427
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Over a million Brits quit smoking over virus fears.
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https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-re ... n-primates
Two doses of an experimental vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) induced robust immune responses and rapidly controlled the coronavirus in the upper and lower airways of rhesus macaques exposed to SARS-CoV-2, report scientists from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

The candidate vaccine, mRNA-1273, was co-developed by scientists at the NIAID Vaccine Research Center and at Moderna, Inc., Cambridge, Massachusetts. The animal study results published online today in the New England Journal of Medicine complement recently reported interim results from an NIAID-sponsored Phase 1 clinical trial of mRNA-1273. The candidate mRNA-1273 vaccine is manufactured by Moderna.
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Next they can test it on prisoners and orphans.






What?
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Seasonal flu reports hit record lows amid global social distancing

“We’ve seen the lowest ever rates of other viral infection admissions for this time of year,” a doctor in Australia said.

BEIJING — Global social distancing rules targeting coronavirus have pushed influenza infection rates to a record low, early figures show, signalling that the measures are having an unprecedented impact on other communicable diseases.

In China, where the earliest wide-scale lockdown measures began, new reports of diseases including mumps, measles and some sexually transmitted diseases, have declined significantly, though influenza cases have seen the sharpest drop off.

Infections reported monthly by the county’s health ministry have dropped by over 90 percent since the beginning of the lockdown, from an average of around 290,000 cases a month to 23,000.

Canada’s flu surveillance system also reported “exceptionally low levels” of influenza in a recent report, as did other countries that report weekly flu surveillance statistics including the U.K. and Australia.

In its most recent weekly report, South Korea’s infectious disease portal reported an 83 percent decrease in cases from the same period a year earlier.

“We’ve seen the lowest ever rates of other viral infection admissions for this time of year,” said Ben Marais, an expert in infectious disease at the University of Sydney and clinician at the children’s unit at Westmead Hospital.

“We normally have wards full of children with wheezy chests at this time of year, in winter…but this year the wards are essentially empty,” he said.

The World Health Organization (WHO) estimates there are some 3-5 million severe illnesses and up to 500,000 deaths annually linked to seasonal influenza globally.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... g-n1235453
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Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

By giving their employees the freedom to work from anywhere, Bay Area tech companies appear to have touched off an exodus. ‘Why do we even want to be here?’

For years there’s been talk of a potential exodus from the San Francisco Bay Area, spurred by the exorbitant cost of living and long, slogging commutes. But before coronavirus, leaving the area meant walking away from some of the best-paying and most prestigious jobs in America.

There are signs the exodus is finally happening. Silicon Valley, America’s signature hub of innovation, may never be the same.

Tech companies are giving their employees more freedom to work from anywhere. Employees are taking them up on the option to relocate, forming the beginnings of a shift that could reshape not only the Bay Area, but also the cities where these tech workers are making new homes.

It’s early days, and information about who’s leaving and where they’re heading is just starting to come in. But for those who are looking, the evidence is there.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ ... rents-fall
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Coronavirus: The flu season that never was, thanks to Covid-19 response

Every morning leading influenza expert Sue Huang wakes knowing the sun will rise, and that there will be a flu season in winter.

But this year, the flu season – in which 20,000 people usually catch the virus and between 400 and 500 die – never came.

Public health measures and the lockdown stopped the virus in its tracks and saved lives – something the ESR virologist has never seen in 22 years of flu surveillance.

Scientists measure the prevalence of flu in various ways.

One of the measures Huang uses to determine the prevalence of flu is to test swabs sent in by labs. They usually detect 5062 positive cases of flu this way, but this year it was as low as six.

As well as the lives that may have otherwise been lost, the no-show flu season would also bring economic and social benefits.

“It has reduced a lot of the costs in economic terms, and the human cost,” she said. “I think that it is one of the silver linings of the lockdown.”

It is possible no one died from influenza this season, Dr Nikki Turner, director of Immunisation Advisory Centre, said.

“As far as we can tell from the entire country we had around a dozen cases of real flu. We had some deaths from respiratory illness, but we are not sure if it was the flu,” she said.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health ... 9-response
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I'm sure I'm not the first person to remark on this, but mRNA vaccines may be the future.

Prior to this coronavirus, the record time for vaccine development was 4 years. This time we have at least 2 highly-effective mRNA vaccines that took less than a year to develop. Most of that of course was the testing. The vaccine candidates themselves didn't take much time to create, but the testing process takes time.
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65% drop in severe asthma, Israeli hospital says it’s the masks

Prof. Nancy Agmon-Levin, who conducted the study, told The Jerusalem Post that she believes “masks blocked infectious agents and definitely pollen.”

https://i.imgur.com/VvQupVS.jpg

Sheba Medical Center found a 65% decrease in the hospitalization of severe asthma patients and a 45% drop in the number of urgent visits to the hospital’s emergency room by asthma sufferers in 2020 versus 2019.
Prof. Nancy Agmon-Levin, who conducted the study, told The Jerusalem Post that she believes “masks blocked infectious agents and definitely pollen.”

Agmon-Levin is the head of Sheba’s Clinical Immunology, Angioedema and Allergy Unit. She said that she and her team were hearing comments from patients that they had a lot less allergies this year compared to previous years.
“We thought this is probably because of wearing masks, but thought about how we could prove the idea,” she explained. “We checked the referrals to the emergency department due to asthma, of which 80% to 90% of all asthma patients are due to allergies.”
While there were such large decreases in asthma referrals, there was only around a 10% decrease in overall emergency department referrals during the same period.
Likewise, when looking at the first quarter of the year, pollution levels appear very similar to every other year, she said.
Allergies affect 30% of the Israeli population, according to the Health Ministry.
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/65 ... sks-665516
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Witness wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:32 am
65% drop in severe asthma, Israeli hospital says it’s the masks

Prof. Nancy Agmon-Levin, who conducted the study, told The Jerusalem Post that she believes “masks blocked infectious agents and definitely pollen.”
People in Japan, and I think East Asia in general, have been wearing masks for pollen allergies for a long time. My wife, for example.
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↑ It is somehow unfashionable in the West…