Historic no seasonal flu season

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It already happened in the Southern Hemisphere winter (austral winter), and it’s already happened in the northern hemisphere as well this year

Zero pediatric deaths so far

Unheard of, historic even

There were so few flu cases in the austral winter that they don’t know what strains there are to vaccinate against this year, so the vaccine is a guess this boreal winter
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Still not a single pediatric death
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I checked the CDC numbers

The flu dropped off at the exact same time Covid started up in the US

The numbers for the 2020-2021 season tell the story already
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flu=covid?

Is there more money in covid than flu?

Did I mention that people are critters?
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There may be another factor

If someone has flu symptoms now, they get a Covid test

Not a flu test
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Nope.

Week 47, way more test done

Numbers are still at an unheard of low
week 47 2019.png
week 47 2020.png
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Because I spend a lot of time looking at numbers and data, I noticed something, and I have not found anyone talking about it anywhere.

Using the seasonal graphs, it is obvious, at least once I tell you what it is.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/flupo ... board.html

I've been watching this season, compared to the last 10 years of seasonal data. But I noticed the end of last years season (2019-2020), it already had started, and it show up in a huge way in the data.


Interesting times
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ed wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:54 pm Is there more money in covid than flu?
I don't actually know. But the seasonal flu is always a killer. the 2017-2018 season was really bad, with 85,000 flu deaths, compared to the usual 35,000 or so

(they don't actually have the real numbers, it's all models and such)
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The almost complete absence of flu continues
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The number of responses in this topic equals the number of news stories on this unheard of event
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do you have a graph of monthly flu cases?
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I use the CDC data, on the website

I linked to it already


They don’t use monthly that I know if
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
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Could it be that the same measures used to slow the spread of covid are reducing the spread of flu as well?
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Thats bullshit, you need a multi year trend
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gnome wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:49 pm Could it be that the same measures used to slow the spread of covid are reducing the spread of flu as well?
That is definitely on the table, and it makes sense. But the octohats are saying it can't be just that.
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robinson wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:13 pm
gnome wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:49 pm Could it be that the same measures used to slow the spread of covid are reducing the spread of flu as well?
That is definitely on the table, and it makes sense. But the octohats are saying it can't be just that.
That was my first thought. Still, if Wung Flu is more contagious than the bog-standard version and tends to only kill coffin-dodgers, (which the other doesn't,) what are the octohats reasons for saying so?
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Don’t get me started on this
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Too late.
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Robinson 2, would you care to comment?
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The computer she runs on is not available at the moment
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There actually are articles about this, flu is a big deal for the elderly each year

It’s hard to believe, but there are no accurate figures for flu cases or flu deaths each year

And this is a disease that has killed between 60 to 100 million people since 1957

When it showed up from China in 1957

A different version showed up from Hong Kong in 1967

Don’t take my word for it. It was called the Asian flu or the Hong Kong flu

I’m not joking

Both strains are the ones still killing over a million people each year, but as they say, it’s all estimates
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The figures from the CDC are just test results, not flu cases, not flu deaths

The only Death Stats are pediatric deaths, of which there are still none, very unusual
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ed wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:43 pm Robinson 2, would you care to comment?
https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/i ... g?t=F4DF3D
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Still working the bugs out
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week 49 data is up

Mind blowing numbers

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm



Compare with 2019 data

https://web.archive.org/web/20191214012 ... /index.htm

week 40-49 (2019)

Type A 4,577 positives

Type B 10,450 positives



week 40-49 (2020)

Type A 57 positives

Type B 49 positives
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I'm sure the few reading don't grasp the actual numbers, or what it means.

week 49 2020

No. of specimens tested 22,474

No. of positive specimens 40

week 49 2019
No. of specimens tested 30,510

No. of positive specimens 3,436


But the Public Health Laboratories is where shit get's fucking real
2020
No. of specimens tested 16,550
No. of positive specimens 16

That's one in a thousand, and a lot of fucking tests

2019

No. of specimens tested 1,508
No. of positive specimens 631

Public health labs pretty much only test if you have the flu, to try and determine the proportion of circulating viruses that belong to each influenza subtype/lineage.

In 2018 they did 772 tests week 49
with positive specimens = 207

2020 they did 16,550 test week 49

16 positives

A skeptic might wonder, WHAT THE LIVING FUCK?
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It's not just the incredibly low positive numbers, which means official cases of the flu, it's the huge number of test being done.
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Week 50 data coming up


In the past, by week 50, the official positive test numbers are from 800 to 8000 (this is not the number of flu cases, this is the Clinical Laboratories numbers, used to see if numbers are going up or down, the actual cases is way higher)

Anyone want to bet on this years numbers? I bet 8
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Week 51 is in

from the CDC website
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graphs
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The same thing was observed in the austral flu season and nobody reported on it then either


You just don’t get it


Science is no longer what you thought it was, it’s now Big Brother and what the State says it is
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Oh I know. I know.
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And they would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for the sharp investigative skills of someone who runs away and claims they're trolling whenever they're backed into a corner.
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Rubs-his-son.

I thought that, according to you, there were no cases of flu anywhere this year. At all.

Maybe someone did the research, rinsed you, and you're now using the more intelligent person's links to try and appear smart.

I allow you to hang on to my coat tails to elevate yourself.
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For the record, I do not agree with that
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Clinical labs

week 3 2020 - 11,890

total season so far - 93,120

week 3 2021 - 65

total season so far - 1,276

week 3 2019 - 4,950

total season 2019 so far - 38,276
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Public health labs

2021 - week 3

3 positive test

2020 - week 3

756 positive test