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Interesting youtube video.
French architect shows how the Great Pyramid could have been built, from the inside out, using an internal ramp.

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Here is a shorter video...



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Bullshit.

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Bruce wrote:Bullshit.

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Don't have one, but doesn't mean I have to believe theirs.

I've said that about religious folks, magicians, and con artist so many times. It's like I'm a skeptic or something.

My favorite theory is the one that the pyramids were literal power plants, and the obelisks were relay stations. I don't rely believe it, but I like to imagine ancient Egyptian teens roaming around looking for WiFi.
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But....without tires and jet fighters? C'mon now. Us stoopit humans couldn't possibly have done it.

I'm going with Bruce on this one: Ancient Astronaut/Snow Apes/Mouth Breathers setting up their Intergalactic Wifi.
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The numbers just don't add up, especially when you look at some of these theories like the single ramp. That's ridiculous. The ramp is bigger than the pyramid itself. I also don't trust the details of some of these theories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyr ... #Materials
A modern construction management study, in association with Mark Lehner and other Egyptologists, estimated that the total project required an average workforce of 14,567 people and a peak workforce of roughly 40,000. Without the use of pulleys, wheels, or iron tools, they used critical path analysis methods, which suggest that the Great Pyramid was completed from start to finish in approximately 10 years.
Sounds like bullshit to me. 10 years and 50,000 people?

The Great Pyramid was built around 2500 BC, when the population of Egypt was around 2 million. That means 2.5% of the entire population was building pyramids. This was during a time period in which the average lifespan was 40 years and health wasn't exactly a thing.

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/people/
Much of the time, malnutrition rather than hunger was the lot of many Egyptians, even of the wealthier ones, and caused scurvy, anaemia and other diseases. Famines, which were mostly local when there was a functioning central government but could become countrywide when there was none, occurred every few years despite the attempts of the authorities to keep stores which could be distributed in times of need
10 years and 50,000 people.

For comparison, the Hoover dam took 5 yrs and 20,000 people using modern tools, and this was during the Great Depression when the nation's population was 120 million, so 0.02% of the population. At this was a tiny fraction of the scale and raw materials compared to the Great Pyramid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Dam

I'm not buying it. The Ancient Aliens theories, corny as they are, actually sound more believable than the historians theories. That's probably why they are so popular. :roll:
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They used this.

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Wikipedia wrote:The Turin Erotic Papyrus (Papyrus 55001, also called the Erotic Papyrus or even Turin Papyrus) is an ancient Egyptian papyrus scroll-painting that was created during the Ramesside Period, approximately in 1150 B.C. Discovered in Deir el-Medina in the early 19th century, it has been dubbed "world's first men's mag." Measuring 8.5 feet (2.6 m) by 10 inches (25 cm), it consists of two parts, one of which contains twelve erotic vignettes depicting various sex positions. It is currently housed by the Museo Egizio in Turin, Italy.
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Bruce wrote:The numbers just don't add up, especially when you look at some of these theories like the single ramp. That's ridiculous. The ramp is bigger than the pyramid itself. I also don't trust the details of some of these theories.
So you don't buy the Single Ramp theory. Maybe there was another ramp on a grassy sandy knoll somewhere nearby...
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Indeed. The ImZapotepruder cartouches prove it!
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So the Great Pyramid was built to find vindaloo?

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With that huge internal ramp, how'd they have room for all the grain?
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Great Pyramid Mystery to Be Solved by Hidden Room?
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Outside Ramp, Then Internal Tunnel

Houdin's theory suggests the Great Pyramid was built in two stages.

First, blocks were hauled up a straight external ramp to build the pyramid's bottom third, which contains most of the monument's mass, Houdin believes.

Houdin says the limestone blocks used in the outside ramp were recycled for the pyramid's upper levels, which might explain why no trace of an original ramp has been found.

Egyptian-archaeology specialist Josef Wegner sees merit in the recycling idea.

"The notion of using the already quarried smaller blocks to build the lower ramp and then dismantling that for use in upper sections would be a very logical approach to speed up the overall construction process," said Wegner of University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology.

After the foundation had been finished, workers began building an inclined, internal, corkscrew tunnel, which would continue its path up and around as the pyramid rose, Houdin said.

Because the tunnel is inside the pyramid, Brier said, "when they finished getting blocks all the way up to the top this ramp disappeared [from view]."

New Clue: The Hidden Room

New evidence uncovered about two-thirds of the way up the Great Pyramid supports the inside-out theory, said Houdin, the architect.

At about the 300-foot (90-meter) mark on the northeastern edge lies an open notch.

On a recent expedition with a National Geographic film crew, Brier—aided by a videographer with mountain-climbing experience—scaled perilous crumbling rocks to reach the notch. (The National Geographic Society owns National Geographic News.)

Ducking inside the notch, Brier entered a small L-shaped room.

He wasn't the first to visit the space, but until now Egyptologists had taken little notice of it.

Houdin, the architect, said the feature figures perfectly with his theory.
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Archaeology News Network wrote:Ancient papyrus reveals how Egyptians transported limestone blocks to build the Great Pyramid

It has for centuries been one of the world’s greatest enigmas: how a Bronze Age society with little in the way of technology created Egypt’s Great Pyramid of Giza – the oldest and only survivor of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

Now archaeologists have discovered fascinating proof that shows how the Egyptians transported 2½-ton blocks of limestone and granite from 500 miles away to build the tomb of Pharaoh Khufu in about 2,600 BC.

At 481ft tall, it is the biggest of all the pyramids and was, until the Middle Ages, the largest man-made structure on Earth. Now the discovery of an ancient papyrus, a ceremonial boat and an ingenious system of waterworks have shed light on the infrastructure created by the builders.

The detailed archaeological material shows that thousands of skilled workers transported 170,000 tons of limestone along the Nile in wooden boats held together by ropes, through a specially constructed system of canals to an inland port just yards from the base of the pyramid.

A scroll of ancient papyrus has also been found in the seaport Wadi Al-Jarf which has given a new insight into the role boats played in the pyramid’s construction.

Written by Merer, an overseer in charge of a team of 40 elite workmen, it is the only first-hand account of the construction of the Great Pyramid, and describes in detail how limestone casing stones were shipped downstream from Tura to Giza.

In his diary, Merer also describes how his crew were involved in the transformation of the landscape, opening giant dykes to divert water from the Nile and channel it to the pyramid through man-made canals.
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Nature wrote:Discovery of a big void in Khufu’s Pyramid by observation of cosmic-ray muons

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The Great Pyramid or Khufu’s Pyramid was built on the Giza Plateau (Egypt) during the IVth dynasty by the pharaoh Khufu (Cheops), who reigned from 2509 to 2483 BC1. Despite being one of the oldest and largest monuments on Earth, there is no consensus about how it was built2,3. To better understand its internal structure, we imaged the pyramid using muons, which are by-products of cosmic rays that are only partially absorbed by stone4–6. The resulting cosmic-ray muon radiography allows us to visualize the known and potentially unknown voids in the pyramid in a non-invasive way. Here we report the discovery of a large void (with a cross section similar to the Grand Gallery and a length of 30 m minimum) above the Grand Gallery, which constitutes the first major inner structure found in the Great Pyramid since the 19th century 1. This void, named ScanPyramids Big Void, was first observed with nuclear emulsion films7–9 installed in the Queen’s chamber (Nagoya University), then confirmed with scintillator hodoscopes10,11 set up in the same chamber (KEK) and re-confirmed with gas detectors12 outside of the pyramid (CEA). This large void has therefore been detected with a high confidence by three different muon detection technologies and three independent analyses. These results constitute a breakthrough for the understanding of Khufu’s Pyramid and its internal structure. While there is currently no information about the role of this void, these findings show how modern particle physics can shed new light on the world’s archaeological heritage.
https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v ... 36276710=1

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And here, I was going to write:
They found a big hole in the Great Pyramid?

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Then it means that "the "void" is a structurally sound way of saving on stone".

Umkay?

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
sparks wrote:Nevertheless, someone's gotta take a look because SCIENCE!!
Absolutely right! :wink:

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For something different:

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Is there any way to access this void without dismantling the pyramid? And would they do that just to see if there's anything in there?

Personally, I'm with Abdul on this one. It was probably just a shortcut to save a bit of effort and cost.
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More likely a construction error that was corrected later.
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Well, we won't be dismantling the pyramid any time soon: The technology required doesn't exist yet!!11 On Earth, that is!!11Eleventy :shock: (Except at Captain Nimrods other secret base that hasn't been discovered yet because ... Outer Spacian ... and shit, and 12,000 years. Esplainify that skeptics!)
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It's where the grain is held, of course.
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More 'discoveries' or conjecture if you prefer, video below.

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Hidden rooms behind the King's chamber.
The narrator cites the french architect Jean-Pierre Houdin
(see the opening post) who came up with the internal ramp theory.
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That is brilliant. Just wish I could read the explanation bubbles... Anax?

The giant scorpion is a particularly nice touch.

(Captain Nimrod's other-other secret base? And shit.)
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sparks wrote:That is brilliant. Just wish I could read the explanation bubbles... Anax?

The giant scorpion is a particularly nice touch.

(Captain Nimrod's other-other secret base? And shit.)

Well, on the right it says: The secret pyramid base of diabolical scientist Dr. Who, King Kong's nemesis.

Dr. Who is not the British one, but a villain from a Japanese kaiju movie called King Kong Escapes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kong_Escapes
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King Kong Escapes (released in Japan as Counterattack of King Kong (キングコングの逆襲 Kingu Kongu no Gyakushū), is a 1967 Japanese-American science-fiction kaiju film featuring King Kong, co-produced by Toho and Rankin/Bass
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An evil genius named Dr. Who creates Mechani-Kong, a robot version of King Kong, to dig for the highly radioactive Element X, found only at the North Pole. Mechani-Kong enters an ice cave and begins to dig into a glacier, but the radiation destroys its brain circuits and the robot shuts down. Who then sets his sights on getting the real Kong to finish the job. Who is taken to task by a beautiful female overseer, Madame Piranha. Her country's government is financing the doctor's schemes, and she frequently berates him for his failure to get results.

Meanwhile, a submarine commanded by Carl Nelson arrives at Mondo Island where the legendary King Kong lives. Much like the original 1933 film, the giant ape gets into an intense fight with Gorosaurus and a sea serpent. He falls in love with a female human. In this case, it is Lt. Susan Watson (played by Linda Jo Miller) following in the footsteps of Fay Wray.

Dr. Who subsequently goes to Mondo Island, abducts Kong and brings him back to his base at the North Pole. Kong is hypnotized by a flashing light device and fitted with a radio earpiece. Who commands Kong to retrieve the Element X from the cave. (Apparently, Kong understands English perfectly.) Problems with the earpiece ensue and Who has to kidnap Susan Watson, the only person who can control Kong.

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Another (rather long) article about the papyri:
Smithsonian wrote:The World’s Oldest Papyrus and What It Can Tell Us About the Great Pyramids

Following notes written by an English traveler in the early 19th century and two French pilots in the 1950s, Pierre Tallet made a stunning discovery: a set of 30 caves honeycombed into limestone hills but sealed up and hidden from view in a remote part of the Egyptian desert, a few miles inland from the Red Sea, far from any city, ancient or modern. During his first digging season, in 2011, he established that the caves had served as a kind of boat storage depot during the fourth dynasty of the Old Kingdom, about 4,600 years ago. Then, in 2013, during his third digging season, he came upon something quite unexpected: entire rolls of papyrus, some a few feet long and still relatively intact, written in hieroglyphics as well as hieratic, the cursive script the ancient Egyptians used for everyday communication. Tallet realized that he was dealing with the oldest known papyri in the world.

Astonishingly, the papyri were written by men who participated in the building of the Great Pyramid, the tomb of the Pharaoh Khufu, the first and largest of the three colossal pyramids at Giza just outside modern Cairo. Among the papyri was the journal of a previously unknown official named Merer, who led a crew of some 200 men who traveled from one end of Egypt to the other picking up and delivering goods of one kind or another. Merer, who accounted for his time in half-day increments, mentions stopping at Tura, a town along the Nile famous for its limestone quarry, filling his boat with stone and taking it up the Nile River to Giza. In fact, Merer mentions reporting to “the noble Ankh-haf,” who was known to be the half-brother of the Pharaoh Khufu and now, for the first time, was definitively identified as overseeing some of the construction of the Great Pyramid. And since the pharaohs used the Tura limestone for the pyramids’ outer casing, and Merer’s journal chronicles the last known year of Khufu’s reign, the entries provide a never-before-seen snapshot of the ancients putting finishing touches on the Great Pyramid.
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A rather short video about the Great Pyramid and the internal ramp theory.

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Witness wrote:Skeevy, free e-book I found for you:

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https://archive.org/details/egyptianpyramids00fish
It seems to be a book about biblical pyramid-ology.
Thank you Witness.

I found an interesting article that somewhat ties in with it
REVEALED: Great Pyramid of Giza has THIS in common with speed of light.
The exact coordinates of the Great Pyramid of Giza are 29.9792458°N which by itself means very little.

However, some enthusiasts have noticed the number is exactly the same as the speed of light which travels at 299,792,458 metres per second.

One of the most famous aspects of the Great Pyramid of Giza is the fact it is aligned true north.

And if you take the mass of the Great Pyramid at nearly six million tons and multiply it by a factor of one hundred million, it gives you the overall mass of the Earth.

However there are those that believe these are just coincidences.
Ya think?

It is interesting though, that the pyramid may be one of the reasons we have held onto the inch for so long...
The first suggestion that the builders of the Great Pyramid of Giza used units of measure related to modern measures is attributed to Oxford astronomy professor John Greaves (1602–1652), who journeyed to Egypt in 1638 to make measurements of the pyramid. His findings were published in his Pyramidographia and under his name in an anonymous tract.[1] More than a century later, Greaves' measurements and additional measurements made by French engineers during Napoleon's expedition in Egypt, were studied by John Taylor (1781–1864). Taylor claimed that the measurements indicated that the ancients had used a unit of measure about 1/1000 greater than a modern British inch.[2] This was the origin of the "pyramid inch". Taylor regarded the "pyramid inch" to be 1/25 of the "sacred cubit", ancient unit based on the forearm length from the tip of the middle finger to the bottom of the elbow, whose existence had earlier been postulated by Isaac Newton.[3] The principal argument was that the total length of the four sides of the pyramid would be 36524 (100 times the number of days in a year) if measured in pyramid inches. Taylor and his followers, who included the Astronomer Royal of Scotland Charles Piazzi Smyth (1819–1900),[4] also found numerous apparent coincidences between the measurements of the pyramids and the geometry of the earth and the solar system. They concluded that the British system of measures was derived from a far more ancient, if not divine, system. During the 19th and early 20th centuries, this theory played a significant role in the debates over whether Britain and the United States should adopt the metric system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_inch
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Re: Great Pyramid

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:The founder of Jehovah's Witnesses was real big on pyramidology ...
I googled a bit.

His grave:

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At work:

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And his legacy:

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Yeah, "Where did the Egyptians get the plans for the Great Pyramid?" Where?!? :shock:
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