An potentially somewhat interesting acquisition

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An potentially somewhat interesting acquisition

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Just got this from a dealer. It is a Langenhan single shot target pistol. German ( :roll: ). Not sure exactly when it was made. Early 20th c. Just pre-WW1 maybe?

You pull the hooky thing on the trigger guard down which 1) opens the action by dropping the barrel and 2) cocks the piece.

The double trigger is called a "set trigger". I knew of them but this is the first one I ever examined. A trigger might require 5 or more pounds of pull to cause the weapon to fire. A double action revolver or a semi-auto that is double action for the first shot (like a Beretta) might require as much as 12 lbs of pull. For a target gun that is crappy cus it introduces shake and you have a tendency to "pull" the point of aim anyway and more trigger pull weight just makes it worse. Enter the set trigger
You pul the rear trigger and this "sets" the forward triggger which now requires a few ounces of pull. What you want on a target weapon. Some hunting rifles had the same thing. For completeness let me also mention the "release trigger". A massively dangerous concoction. The bloody gun goes off when you let the trigger go after pulling it. I leave it to the interested student to conjure up the possible accidents.
Lagenhan small.jpg
Beautifully made thing. Works perfectly after 100 years. Guns, like armor, called out for the hand of the artist. You can see it with the engraving here as well as with the woodworking.

I need to talk about how steel plate engraving descended from the blackening of engraved designs on armor in the 16th c. in Germany ( :roll: )
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Some detail pics while you talk would be nice.
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Here ya go
https://i.postimg.cc/f3sJG5XR/IMG-0567.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/87M7Xx7Y/IMG-0568.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MvhcDzpR/IMG-0572.jpg
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Nice gun

But useless in a real fight
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:mrgreen:
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If you own such a gun it means that you have people that take care of fights.
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Can I call it? Enough time has gone by, right?

Screw it, I'm calling it.

I officially declare this thread
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The pictures aren't blurry enough – try posting smaller ones.




https://i.imgur.com/PlHZUdT.jpg
Spoiler:
Friedrich Langenhan and the Langenhan Dolla Air Pistols

:mrgreen:
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Witness wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:40 am The pictures aren't blurry enough – try posting smaller ones.
click the pic. it's a thumbnail. :De_Bunk:
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Rob Lister wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:56 am click the pic. it's a thumbnail. :De_Bunk:
Ah, OK. I never click as I have the "Thumbnail Zoom Plus" (sic) extension (Imagus for newer versions of Firefox or Chrome) which automatically shows the big file. But not in this case… :|
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Got this one today
https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5100 ... 80.JPG?c=2

Elegant little thing.
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That’s a beauty, ed.
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Are you patronizing me?
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Double-triggered.
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hahahaha
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No, I immediately thought of the modern TC Contender and wondered about its provenance. Also wondered about the caliber, where it breaks, etc...

I enjoy when you write about these gems. Sorry that I didn’t mention that sooner.
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DJ wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:00 pm No, I immediately thought of the modern TC Contender and wondered about its provenance. Also wondered about the caliber, where it breaks, etc...

I enjoy when you write about these gems. Sorry that I didn’t mention that sooner.
I wrote a little paper on Franz Stock pistols with a pal and in so doing I was exposed to the development of the use of semiautomatic pistols in competitive German shooting ca. 1920. Prior to that ... single shot, after that lots of semi's. As I looked at the single shot pistols I was drawn to them. I have a few Thompson's and they are deadly accurate and, lo and behold, the Thompson design was stolen from the fucking krauts!!!! :x :x (actually that would be an interesting little article).

Anyway, the area interested me because it is arcane and I think that I like such things because it allows me to act superior without any fear of contradiction. I recall when I was trying to learn to read Anglo-Saxon (I wanted to read Beowulf in the original). In the intro to the book I got the author said something like "study, go wild, no one will ever know if you are wrong" :D

Anyway. I got a couple of these things, this one is my third. They are, for the workmanship and form and mechanical beauty, massively cheap. My intention (today, but I have the attention span of a butterfly) is to write something concerning them. Not sure what, I've had a few ideas but nothing compelling ... if you can use the word "compelling" in regard to early 20th century German target pistols.

This one is .22 short though I would probably not fire anything more than a CB cap in them. It is a falling block design. You lift the handle that is set into the grip and the block falls and cocks the internal hammer.
Fig 108.jpg
The illustration is from Boch's "Modern Pistols" which I am endeavoring to translate, at least the chapter on target pistols. Incidentally, the word for hammer can be translated as "cock" which provides me with much mirth.

Anyway, when I get it I will take it out back and try it out. I shall report back at that time.
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Where is that patronizing head pat thing that doc uses.
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Thanks for the information. I had a nice, but modern, collection of rifles and pistols which would have included a TC Contender but I never got the chance. I liked the cut of their jib, but never had much time to do anything but ogle. Everything I knew about firearms I learned from magazines or from folks around the range which is imprecise and often wrong as I’m sure you know. I have more time now, so I do really appreciate your effort and envy your spoils.
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You in the US?
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Boston, MA.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhh ...

Then this is for you

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That reminds me of a gun show I visited in New Hampshire many years ago. I was admiring a Bushmaster rifle in .223. The nice gentleman asked me where I was from. After I told him, he laughed and said “not for you”.