SARS-CoV-2 vaccines

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The Amish and Sweden reached her immunity already

While Australia turned into Nazi Germany
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For the time being, Japan seems to be headed in the right direction. Cases are down.

https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en.html

Of course, Japan was a latecomer to getting its population vaccinated (I'm still less than a month out from getting my second dose) so there has been less time for the immunity to wane.
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Current data from the CDC:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... rate-total

Total Vaccine Doses
Delivered: 461,117,525
Administered: 382,294,795

"Administered" means actually injected into a person. 210,361,099 people have received at least one dose of a vaccine, so it's 7,653 deaths among that cohort, or 0.0036% incidence rate of death associated with the vaccination.

https://i.imgur.com/7civwjL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/R5CapxA.png

VAERS data, although not as robust as data from controlled clinical trials in which adverse events are adjudicated as to whether or not they are caused by the study treatment, serve a valuable post-marketing purpose, not the least of which is to determine a "signal" of adverse event incidence rates. From the VAERS data, for example, there is a definite signal of higher incidence rate of death in the mRNA vaccines versus the viral vector vaccine.

One might consider comparing the incidence rates of severe illness and death in COVID-19 with the incidence rates of severe illness and death in the vaccines, in order to make an informed decision while consulting with their physician.
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COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the muscle cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... /mrna.html
the vector (not the virus that causes COVID-19, but a different, harmless virus) will enter a cell in our body and then use the cell’s machinery to produce a harmless piece of the virus that causes COVID-19. This piece is known as a spike protein and it is only found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19
.https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ector.html

You can tell how different they are. On causes your cells to make a spike protein, and the other uses your cells to make the spike protein.
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Some recent UK data here (PDF):

Pages 5 and 6 are of particular interest:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ation_.pdf
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robinson wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:20 pm
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the muscle cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... /mrna.html
the vector (not the virus that causes COVID-19, but a different, harmless virus) will enter a cell in our body and then use the cell’s machinery to produce a harmless piece of the virus that causes COVID-19. This piece is known as a spike protein and it is only found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19
.https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ector.html

You can tell how different they are. On causes your cells to make a spike protein, and the other uses your cells to make the spike protein.
Two ways of saying the same thing.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT MACHINERY EPXLAIN THAT SPEKCTICS???!!!!
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Pyrrho wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:33 pm Two ways of saying the same thing.
Obviously. But two different vaccines
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Just came across this one.
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Looking at the world meter data there seems to be a summer spike in vaccinated countries

Wtf?
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Japan has pretty much caught up to the US now in terms of vaccination rates, and new infections are dropping. The current state of emergency measures for Covid will be ended at the end of this month.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covi ... tribution/

https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en.html

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021 ... ource.html
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Trials begin on Covid booster jab hoped to protect against new variants
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I can remember when they mocked Trump because he said there would be vaccines


Because of how quickly a coronavirus mutates