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Good article by Rick Reilly:
What a fool I was.

In 1986, I spent a week in State College, Pa., researching a 10-page Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year piece on Joe Paterno.

It was supposed to be a secret, but one night the phone in my hotel room rang. It was a Penn State professor, calling out of the blue.

"Are you here to take part in hagiography?" he said.

"What's hagiography?" I asked.

"The study of saints," he said. "You're going to be just like the rest, aren't you? You're going to make Paterno out to be a saint. You don't know him. He'll do anything to win. What you media are doing is dangerous."

Jealous egghead, I figured.

What an idiot I was.

Twenty-five years later, when former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was accused of a 15-year reign of pedophilia on young boys, I thought Paterno was too old and too addled to understand, too grandfatherly and Catholic to get that Sandusky was committing grisly crimes using Paterno's own football program as bait.

But I was wrong. Paterno knew. He knew all about it. He'd known for years. He knew and he followed it vigilantly.

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An analysis into the reasons why secrecy is so endemic to sexual abuse cases might prove enlightening, if only to the literate.
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/15/us/tripon ... ?hpt=hp_c1
She agrees with Freeh's suggestion that the university's trustees lead an effort to "vigorously examine and understand" Penn State's culture, why it's so resistant to outside perspectives and why it places such an "excessive focus on athletics."
The answer is probably the usual simple one:
At Penn State, Triponey was among the few who stood up to Paterno, the legendary "JoePa" who for 61 years was synonymous with a football program that pumped millions of dollars into Penn State. And she paid dearly for it. At the end, nobody at the top backed her. And it didn't seem to matter to anyone whether she was right, or even if she had a point.
Follow the money.

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They are still making money off of the culture.

From another article from the CNN site cited:
Penn State trustee Kenneth Frazier, head of the committee addressing the Sandusky scandal, said it was clear that Paterno and other key university leaders exhibited "inexcusable failures" when it came to protecting children.

But, Frazier said, figuring the coach's legacy will be a bit more complicated.

"There is a lot about his life that's worth emulating," he said. "You have to measure every human by the good they've done, the bad they've done. I don't think any of us wants to be measured by the worst things we've ever been done in our life."Fool
Does . . . not . . . get . . . it.

Yes . . . Hitler's legacy is also "complicated."

It is not "complicated," stupid: He chose to enable a pedophile. Period. He is as guilty as Sandusky.

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JoePa's statue is now in cold storage, safe from the egging it richly deserves.
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Pyrrho wrote:JoePa's statue is now in cold storage, safe from the egging it richly deserves.
A Linkypoo.

Good. Too many Penn State idiots have been trying to justify its retention. To which I would ask: "would you give him a statue NOW?"

From the linkypoo:
Penn State President Rod Erickson said he decided to have the statue removed and put into storage because it "has become a source of division and an obstacle to healing."

"I believe that, were it to remain, the statue will be a recurring wound to the multitude of individuals across the nation and beyond who have been the victims of child abuse," Erickson said in a statement released at 7 a.m. Sunday.
"Smartest Man in the Room" full of idiots--Trustees.
He said Paterno's name will remain on the campus library because it "symbolizes the substantial and lasting contributions to the academic life and educational excellence that the Paterno family has made to Penn State University."
The Pedophile Library. FAIL. Still, given the opposition to removing the statue, I will take what one can get.
The statue's sculptor, Angelo Di Maria, said it was upsetting to hear that the statue had been taken down.

"It's like a whole part of me is coming down. It's just an incredibly emotional process," Di Maria said.
Sort of like what happens to a boy when he is raped fucktard?

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Pyrrho wrote:JoePa's statue is now in cold storage ...
To be put out again when the furore dies down?
With the head readjusted so it now is looking the other way.
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NCAA to announce punishment for Penn State on Monday (that's today):

NCAA To Punish Penn State After Sandusky Scandal
The NCAA will on Monday announce “corrective and punitive measures” against Penn State in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal, according to a statement.

ESPN reports that “the penalties will be significant,” while a source tells CBS News they’ll be “unprecedented.”
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Anything less than the "Death Penalty" will be a white-wash.

Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.

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Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.

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Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.

--J.D.
The actual penalties will probably amount to the same thing as the death penalty, just not as symbolic. Massive scholarship losses over four years, no bowl or conference championship games, and possibly most importantly the NCAA released all football players to transfer without having to sit out one year. If an exodus starts, it will be interesting if Happy Valley still fills up when they are losing 77-0 to Purdue.

Meanwhile, Penn State is still in the frozen wasteland of the northern PA steppes while most skill players come out of the south. Their main local recruiting rivals, Ohio State and WVU are on the ascendancy. They were sliding out of elite status before this happened, now it will be more like a plunge.


Also, how about being Bobby Bowden this AM? He's back on top as far as D1A goes, but given how it happened I bet he wishes he wasn't. Talk about weird guilt feelings, not his fault, but he's now #1 because of a series of rapes.
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Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.

--J.D.
It didn't even occur to me that they could take away wins retroactively.

I don't suppose that the teams they played are credited with victories?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... 56427630/1
Emmert also stripped Penn State of its wins between 1998 and 2011, meaning that former coach Joe Paterno is no longer major college football's all-time winningest coach. A total of 111 have been erased from Paterno's previous win total of 409.
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Doctor X wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Really, they should invalidate Joe Paedophile-Protector's wins since 1998.
Which they have. Too bad the Cunt is not alive to enjoy 13th place.

--J.D.
The actual penalties will probably amount to the same thing as the death penalty, just not as symbolic. Massive scholarship losses over four years, no bowl or conference championship games, and possibly most importantly the NCAA released all football players to transfer without having to sit out one year. If an exodus starts, it will be interesting if Happy Valley still fills up when they are losing 77-0 to Purdue.
Since players get to choose where to go to college, it's hard to imagine many top prospects choosing Penn State anytime soon.
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Anaxagoras wrote:Since players get to choose where to go to college, it's hard to imagine many top prospects choosing Penn State anytime soon.
Particularly with a guarantee that the player will NOT see a bowl game. That is a big strike for a prospect with NFL aspirations. He also knows scouts will take the school far less seriously. As one pundit/guru explained it, the NCAA bent their own rules so that teams picking up these players--who are leaving in droves--will be able to add on the scholarship. In other words, if you are only allowed, say, 20 scholarships, you can add former Penn State players and those who committed without it going against that total. So there is every incentive for other schools to snatch up these players.

Regarding you previous question, they can and do. Schools have been stripped of Final Four appearances even national titles:

USC Stripped of 2004 National Title

See the Olympics and other sports who happily retroactively enforce their rules. Something MLB may wish to consider when someone actually alive is running it. But I digress. . . .

I had the opportunity to hear the announcement. It is correct: the "death penalty" has a connotation. From a pure greedy not-caring-about-the-past, Penn State would have preferred the Death Penalty [Tm.--Ed.]. The infamous school that first received it received only a ONE year ban. They chose to keep it shut down for two. But there problem--nicely portrayed in an ESPN "30-for-30" documentary--they did not have the ability to attract top prospects without paying them. This is why they continued after the NCAA caught them. Without that, they quickly sank and other teams moved on.

A one to two-year ban--leave aside calls for "5-10-FOREVERSSS!" bans--would hurt but, as one Talking Head put it, Coach Bill O'Brien could argue to prospects and their parents that they could be part of a rebuilding of Penn State, "new legacy you will build, blah . . . blah." The lose of eligibility and scholarships pretty much kills any attractiveness for the next five years and probably longer. What prospect wishes to start up in a "loser school." He wants to be seen, get a chance to win, be seen, be seen winning, be seen, et cetera.

I see the argument for a Death Penalty for five years, but consider this--just thought of it--NOW all of the idiot Penn State supporters who STILL try to apologize for "Joe Pa" and the rest will have to watch their team SUCK for five to ten years. There will be games. There will be "real games." I have not looked to see if the Big Ten have ruled, but Penn State becomes a Bye Week on any schedule. It will be miserable for these types of people whose money and support rather drove the whole thing. Paterno had power because he generated $$$$ from alumni, fans, boosters, television contracts, and all of that.




Just ask Red Sox fans how they feel currently.








Fuck you!






That is the future of Penn State for the next half to probably whole decade.

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Oh and the Paterno family needs the shit the fuck up, now.

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Institutions erasing Paterno’s name from honors, awards
STATE COLLEGE MURAL (HALO ONLY)

A mural titled “Inspiration” including Paterno and Sandusky and other members of the State College community was painted near campus 12 years ago. After Sandusky was charged, his likeness was painted over. After Paterno died, artist Michael Pilato added a halo, to signify his death, not his holiness. After the release of the Freeh Report, he painted over the halo. He added a large blue ribbon, instead, on Paterno’s lapel symbolizing support for child abuse victims. Sandusky has been convicted and is awaiting sentencing.
Dude was actually painted in a mural with a halo? A fucking halo?

Like I said before, too many parallels with religion.

BTW, a halo does not symbolize a person's death, it symbolizes holiness. :roll:
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The backlash against the victims is going to be vicious.
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I was wondering about this. Since local law enforcement didn't discharge their duties adequately (harumph), could this be a Federal Civil Rights case? Isn't there a parallel between what happened in the deep south in the 60's and what happened in PA? No one can deny that these kids were denied their civil rights, correct?
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Speaking of terrible jokes about the whole situation.

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ed wrote:I was wondering about this. Since local law enforcement didn't discharge their duties adequately (harumph), could this be a Federal Civil Rights case? Isn't there a parallel between what happened in the deep south in the 60's and what happened in PA? No one can deny that these kids were denied their civil rights, correct?
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Local law enforcement? I thought it was only Penn State University officials who failed to discharge their duty to report the crimes to local law enforcement officials.

To maintain a federal civil rights action under 42 U.S.C. Section 1983, you have to sue the individuals involved and allege and prove they were acting under color of state or local law. Further, you have to allege and prove they deprived you of a right protected by the federal or state constitution or by law. What right is that? The right not to be the victim of a crime? Where in the constitution does it say that the government must protect you from that harm? The Supreme Court has held in case in of civil tort liability actions that generally, law enforcement officials do not owe citizens a duty to protect them from or to prevent crime or criminal activities.

The victims have grounds to sue Sandusky and possibly the other living Penn State officials who had a duty to report the incidents to the local law enforcement authorities, but those are likely to be state tort grounds, such as battery and the intentional infliction of emotional distress. I doubt you could make out a good federal civil rights complaint and have it survive a motion to dismiss or motion for summary judgment. I suspect this belongs in state court as a tort action, not a civil rights case.

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Grammatron wrote:Speaking of terrible jokes about the whole situation.

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ed wrote:I was wondering about this. Since local law enforcement didn't discharge their duties adequately (harumph), could this be a Federal Civil Rights case? Isn't there a parallel between what happened in the deep south in the 60's and what happened in PA? No one can deny that these kids were denied their civil rights, correct?
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Local law enforcement? I thought it was only Penn State University officials who failed to discharge their duty to report the crimes to local law enforcement officials.

To maintain a federal civil rights action under 42 U.S.C. Section 1983, you have to sue the individuals involved and allege and prove they were acting under color of state or local law. Further, you have to allege and prove they deprived you of a right protected by the federal or state constitution or by law. What right is that? The right not to be the victim of a crime? Where in the constitution does it say that the government must protect you from that harm? The Supreme Court has held in case in of civil tort liability actions that generally, law enforcement officials do not owe citizens a duty to protect them from or to prevent crime or criminal activities.

The victims have grounds to sue Sandusky and possibly the other living Penn State officials who had a duty to report the incidents to the local law enforcement authorities, but those are likely to be state tort grounds, such as battery and the intentional infliction of emotional distress. I doubt you could make out a good federal civil rights complaint and have it survive a motion to dismiss or motion for summary judgment. I suspect this belongs in state court as a tort action, not a civil rights case.

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The Progeny of the Pedophile Protector announced it would appeal the NCAA sanctions.











Immediate Response from NCAA: "Fuck you and the horse you road in on!"
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) -- Joe Paterno's family said it planned to appeal the sanctions imposed by the NCAA against Penn State for the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal. The governing body's response: Don't bother.

Family lawyer Wick Sollers in a letter sent Friday to the NCAA said the Paternos would like to appeal the ''enormous damage'' done to Penn State, the community, athletes and the late Hall of Fame coach. He died in January at age 85.

But the NCAA quickly rejected their plan. ''The Penn State sanctions are not subject to appeal,'' spokesman Bob Williams said.

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Jerry Sandusky Wants to Be Moved to General Population.
This is a request I believe that should be granted.

I know there are a lot of people who believe that Sandusky will received some “prison justice” if he is put in with other inmates.

They did serenade him the other day as if they were waiting for him.

But, we will see how the prison will treat him and if they give him some form of protection even if he doesn’t deserve it.
So, anyone want to bet, is it

A. Death Wish

B. Clever way to prep for insanity plea to lower sentence time?

C. Other
Then Skank Of America could start in...
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Persistent delusion is not uncommon among pedophiles.
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Skeeve wrote: So, anyone want to bet, is it

A. Death Wish

B. Clever way to prep for insanity plea to lower sentence time?

C. Other
A: No.

B. No, he's going for good and this wouldn't be useful anyway.

C: Yes. He's so bored and stir-crazy in isolation that he wants to take his chances.
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Pyrrho wrote:Persistent delusion is not uncommon among pedophiles.
Persistent delusion is not uncommon among pedophiles criminal defendants in general, especially petty thieves, domestic violence offenders, and convicted felons facing greatly enhanced punishment due to multiple prior convictions.

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You forgot SC posters, jj being our type-section.
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Some just do not get it:
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) -- A Penn State trustee cited a need for due process in telling the NCAA on Monday that he intends to appeal college sports governing body's strict sanctions on the university for the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.

Trustee Ryan McCombie said earlier Monday in a letter to fellow board members that he planned to take the action and sought an NCAA hearing. He invited other trustees to join in the appeal.

McCombie's lawyers later sent the NCAA their intent to appeal letter, saying they also represented other trustees.
Several other board members have indicated they will join the appeal, said McCombie's lawyer, Paul Kelly of the Boston-based firm Jackson Lewis. But Kelly did not provide a number or identify the other members, and said he was still gathering names.

Pedophiles? What Pedophiles?!
Fine. Now give them the death penalty in addition to the other penalties. Maybe the Cunts will learn.

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The Donald weighs in:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/iop62l
The Penn State Board should resign based on the grossly incompetent way they handled the NCAA. They gave away the entire store & permanently ruined the school's reputation.
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Pyrrho wrote:The Donald weighs in:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/iop62l
The Penn State Board should resign based on the grossly incompetent way they handled the NCAA. They gave away the entire store & permanently ruined the school's reputation.
Rather vague critique there. I'd like him to say what he thinks they should have done.
Ten bucks says it's even stupider.

The reputation of the school was ruined by Sandusky, Paterno, the former president and others involved with the football program.

Has Trump had anything to say about them, or is his criticism only for the board of trustees?
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His criticism is directed at drawing more attention to himself.
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Joke is on the Ohio State fans who wear a T-shirt mocking the Penn State sexual abuse scandal
This week, news broke of an astoundingly stupid pro-Ohio State T-shirt making its way around Columbus using the Penn State/Jerry Sandusky child abuse scandal as a way to take a bank-shot jab at Michigan. "I'd rather shower at Penn State," the shirt read, "than cheer for the Wolverines."

Ha! Get it? Because molestation is a funny joke. Go Bucks! O-H-I-O!

All right, it's not like this is in any way sanctioned or approved by the university. To be fair, shirts with the exact same punchline have shown up at both Iowa and LSU, and we'd imagine that those universities (and the vast majority of their fans) are every bit as disgusted and embarrassed by their T-shirts. (LSU has the most to hang its head about; its T-shirt featured the grammatical error of "then" rather than "than," seemingly turning showering and rooting for a rival into items on a to-do list.)
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I must admit I found the above funny--as I did the "Pedobear" Penn State logo.

Dark comedy. Necessary. And, really, the ones to blame are the Cunts like Sandusky, Paterno, and everyone else who turned a blind eye and enabled Sandusky for decades.

This reminds me of Dr. Lewinsky complaining because the "Det. Lenny Briscoe" character in Law&Order Classic stated a woman was in a car, "giving a Lewinsky." Sorry . . . but these things happen.

But then again, I am the proud owner of a Spinal Tap "Bitch School" t-shirt I have never worn. . . .

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Both are funny, as always Southpark did it first and better.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/4 ... nn%20state
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Well played Matt and Trey . . . well played.

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Why it matters:

Rape charges against high school players divide football town of Steubenville, Ohio

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss ... er_default

Although the news writers may be unnecessarily trying to link this to the football program.
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That is quite worth the "Indeed!"

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