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Isn’t the spike protein the active ingredient the vaccines cause your own cells to make?
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https://twitter.com/ianmsc/status/15106 ... DoRRhqwaNA

When Denmark lifted restrictions two months ago, Twitter promoted “expert” Eric Feigl-Ding said that Danish political leaders “had completely lost their frigging minds” by “releasing all COVID mitigations”

Cases there have dropped over 90% since

They are literally always wrong
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/two-omicr ... ovid-virus
Now BA.1 and BA.2 have combined to create a third subvariant. XE, as it’s known, is a “recombinant”—the product of two viruses interacting “Frankenstein”-style in a single host.
...
According to the World Health Organization, XE is 10 percent more contagious than BA.2, which itself is up to 80 percent more contagious than BA.1, a subvariant epidemiologists described as the most transmissible respiratory virus they’d ever seen when it first appeared in South Africa back in November.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease ... on-reports
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https://www.empr.com/home/news/drugs-in ... -efficacy/
Positive results were announced from a phase 3 trial evaluating sabizabulin in hospitalized COVID-19 patients at high risk for acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).

Sabizabulin is an oral cytoskeleton disruptor that blocks microtubule trafficking. The investigational treatment is expected to provide both antiviral and anti-inflammatory effects, thereby treating both the SARS-CoV-2 infection and the cytokine storm and septic shock that lead to ARDS.
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Microtubule trafficking.

Oh the humanity!
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They just want a better life, sparks.

Translocate from a brush border cell to maybe even a neuron.

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People at work are bragging about having been triple vaccinated but got "it". The virus mutates, yo. 🦠

Like how the flu does.
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Article discusses lasting effects from COVID-19 in patients who had been hospitalized. The data include statistics for comorbidities, among other things.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanr ... 8/fulltext
Interpretation
The sequelae of a hospital admission with COVID-19 were substantial 1 year after discharge across a range of health domains, with the minority in our cohort feeling fully recovered. Patient-perceived health-related quality of life was reduced at 1 year compared with before hospital admission. Systematic inflammation and obesity are potential treatable traits that warrant further investigation in clinical trials.
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So let’s see now

Over two years into the great Pandemic

And not a single rich and powerful or even just rich and famous person has died from it …

How is that even possible?


Also, almost no poor Africans died either


Hmmm ….
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Were they wearing masks?

Fauci says we are out of the pandemic phase. So the folks at the office were all gathered in a meeting room and are going to a group event after hours, it's over! :hyper:
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Twit: https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1519421150262140929
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Pyrrho wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:49 pm Were they wearing masks?

Fauci says we are out of the pandemic phase. So the folks at the office were all gathered in a meeting room and are going to a group event after hours, it's over! :hyper:
:lmao: Sure it is. Sure it is. :lmao:
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You doubt Fauci, sparks?

Why are you a MAGA supporter?

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Doctor X wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:24 am You doubt Fauci, sparks?

Why are you a MAGA supporter?

:freedom:

– J.D.
No, sparks is just up to date with the most recent pronouncements from Fauci:
“We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase,” (Fauci, PBS Newshour 4/26).

“We certainly cannot say the pandemic is over. It is not over.” (Fauci, CBS interview 4/27).
Fauci claims that his prior comments were being misconstrued to imply that the pandemic has ended.

You're spreading double-plus ungood badfacts by alleging that Fauci said what he said before, Trumpist!

I bet you don't even own an electric car.
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I guess that's the ins and outs of it.
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Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/rac ... ease-in-us
Black Americans (63%) and Hispanic Americans (68%) continue to be more likely than white Americans (45%) to say they are at least somewhat worried about themselves or a family member being infected with COVID-19, according to an April poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

Throughout the pandemic, Black and Hispanic communities have experienced higher rates of illness and death from COVID, said Amelia Burke-Garcia, public health program area director at NORC. Those experiences have resulted in greater levels of stress, anxiety and awareness of the risks of catching COVID-19, she said, which means people of color are more likely to feel measures like mask mandates are needed.
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One wonders how many are not vaccinated and boosted. And why.
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Data here.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-1 ... ethnicity/
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Well, there you go then. I read that as they're not getting vaccinated and if correct, then they can't bitch about how stressed they are about getting Covid.
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D-dimer tests show at least 62 percent of mRNA “vaccinated” patients have microscopic blood clots, reports Dr. Charles Hoffe M.D. – Wellbeing Aotearoa

https://wellbeingaotearoa.wordpress.com ... hoffe-m-d/
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It’s ironic that as time goes by

All the Big Brother bullshit turns out to be bullshit
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https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2PY1K2
VERDICT
False. Experts told Reuters that there is no evidence for mRNA vaccines being linked to blood clots and that methods used by Dr Charles Hoffe are unreliable.
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FDA restricts Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine due to blood clot risk

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2022/05/ ... ood-clots/
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Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a viral vector and is not an mRNA vaccine. Incidence of blood clots in persons receiving the J&J/Janssen vaccine has been documented in clinical trials and post-approval. That is not what Dr. Hoffe refers to.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedn ... 19-vaccine

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... nssen.html

As always, consult your primary care physician about medical treatments.
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And not Big Brother
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Time for you 5th shot of a vaccine that doesn’t stop you from getting Covid-19

It also doesn’t stop you from dying

Meanwhile Africa still isn’t vaccinated

And still hasn’t had a pandemic
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But trust Big Brother
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Another surge is underway even among the vaccinated, which is not surprising given that people are abandoning social distancing and other ways of avoiding contact.

If my doctor recommends a booster, I will probably get a booster. If some random Yahoo recommends inhaling the fumes of burning goat shit I will probably demur.
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https://apnews.com/article/covid-health ... 14ac2f762b
North Korea on Saturday reported 21 new deaths and 174,440 more people with fever symptoms as the country scrambles to slow the spread of COVID-19 across its unvaccinated population.

The deaths and cases, which were from Friday, increased total numbers to 27 deaths and 524,440 illnesses amid a rapid spread of fever since late April. North Korea said 243,630 people had recovered and 280,810 remained in quarantine. State media didn’t specify how many of the fever cases and deaths were confirmed as COVID-19 infections.
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/nort ... eak-surges
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un criticized officials over slow medicine deliveries and mobilized the military to respond to a surge in suspected COVID-19 infections, as his nation struggled to contain a fever that has reportedly killed dozens and sickened nearly a million others in a span of three days.

North Korean health authorities said Monday that eight more people died and an additional 392,920 were newly found to have feverish symptoms. That brings the death toll to 50 and illnesses to more than 1.2 million, respectively.
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The biggest fuck you of the Pandemic is that countries that protected themselves by refusing to let the virus in, meaning no cases, no deaths, still can’t open up, because none of the vaccines offer actual protection

Even if everyone in the country is fully vaccinated, even 5 times, the moment they let fully vaccinated people in Covid will ass rape the population and kill a lot of people

The complete assholes of the Universe will say “yeah but not as many will die”, which is so fucking stupid it’s beyond imagining

What any sane person wants is protection, a protective vaccine, so Covid won’t ass rape the entire country and make people sick and die

I can’t fathom the type of person who can’t understand these simple facts

Such idiocy is beyond my ability to understand

And we actually have a few members here that are that fucking stupid

Which also bothers me for some reason
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The two unintentional experiments, where a protected population let fully vaccinated, double tested, and quarantined first people in, and still suffered a massive Covid outbreak

Really showed how useless as fuck the vaccines were for stopping Covid
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/as- ... f-supplies
The White House is planning for “dire” contingencies that could include rationing supplies of vaccines and treatments this fall if Congress doesn’t approve more money for fighting COVID-19.

In public comments and private meetings on Capitol Hill, Dr. Ashish Jha, the White House coronavirus coordinator, has painted a dark picture in which the U.S. could be forced to cede many of the advances made against the coronavirus over the last two years and even the most vulnerable could face supply shortages.

Biden administration officials have been warning for weeks that the country has spent nearly all the money in the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan that was dedicated directly to COVID-19 response.
BOHICA
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Great.
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robinson wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:27 pm The biggest fuck you of the Pandemic is that countries that protected themselves by refusing to let the virus in, meaning no cases, no deaths, still can’t open up, because none of the vaccines offer actual protection

Even if everyone in the country is fully vaccinated, even 5 times, the moment they let fully vaccinated people in Covid will ass rape the population and kill a lot of people

The complete assholes of the Universe will say “yeah but not as many will die”, which is so fucking stupid it’s beyond imagining

What any sane person wants is protection, a protective vaccine, so Covid won’t ass rape the entire country and make people sick and die

I can’t fathom the type of person who can’t understand these simple facts

Such idiocy is beyond my ability to understand

And we actually have a few members here that are that fucking stupid

Which also bothers me for some reason
https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download

https://i.imgur.com/gaaifvB.jpg

A certain percentage of the population has to be vaccinated in order to reduce incidence to levels that would minimize transmission.

Hasn't happened in this country or in others. We can also consider "vaccine equity" which involves poor countries not getting vaccines and without the necessary infrastructure and logistics to vaccinate enough of the population. Or countries like North Korea that have no fucks to give.

In the PDF linked above, scroll to page 48 for a discussion of effectiveness as postulated at that time:
8.2 Unknown Benefits/Data Gaps
Duration of protection

As the interim and final analyses have a limited length of follow-up, it is not possible to assess
sustained efficacy over a period longer than 2 months.

Effectiveness in certain populations at high-risk of severe COVID-19
Although the proportion of participants at high risk of severe COVID-19 is adequate for the
overall evaluation of safety in the available follow-up period, the subsets of certain groups such
as immunocompromised individuals (e.g., those with HIV/AIDS) are too small to evaluate
efficacy outcomes.

Effectiveness in individuals previously infected with SARS-CoV-2
Limited data suggest that individuals with prior SARS-CoV-2 infection can be at risk of COVID19 (i.e., re-infection) and may benefit from vaccination. Regarding the benefit of the mRNA-1273 for individuals with prior infection with SARS-CoV2, participants with a known history of SARSCoV-2 infection were excluded from the Phase 3 study, and there was only one case of COVID19 among study participants with positive SARS-COV-2 infection status at baseline. Thus, the
study was not designed to assess the benefit in individuals with prior SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Effectiveness in pediatric populations
No efficacy data are available from participants ages 17 years and younger.

Future vaccine effectiveness as influenced by characteristics of the pandemic, changes
in the virus, and/or potential effects of co-infections

The study enrollment and follow-up occurred during the period of July 27, 2020 to November 21,
2020, in sites across the United States. The evolution of the pandemic characteristics, such as
increased attack rates, increased exposure of subpopulations, as well as potential changes in
the virus infectivity, antigenically significant mutations to the S protein, and/or the effect of coinfections may potentially limit the generalizability of the efficacy conclusions over time.
Continued evaluation of vaccine effectiveness following issuance of an EUA and/or licensure
will be critical to address these uncertainties.

Vaccine effectiveness against asymptomatic infection
Data are limited to assess the effect of the vaccine in preventing asymptomatic infection as
measured by detection of the virus and/or detection of antibodies against non-vaccine antigens
that would indicate infection rather than an immune response induced by the vaccine. Additional
evaluations will be needed to assess the effect of the vaccine in preventing asymptomatic
infection, including data from clinical trials and from the vaccine’s use post-authorization.

Vaccine effectiveness against long-term effects of COVID-19 disease
COVID-19 disease may have long-term effects on certain organs, and at present it is not
possible to assess whether the vaccine will have an impact on specific long-term sequelae of
COVID-19 disease in individuals who are infected despite vaccination. Demonstrated high
efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 should translate to overall prevention of COVID-19-
related sequelae in vaccinated populations, though it is possible that asymptomatic infections
may not be prevented as effectively as symptomatic infections and may be associated with
sequelae that are either late-onset or undetected at the time of infection (e.g., myocarditis).
Additional evaluations will be needed to assess the effect of the vaccine in preventing long-term
effects of COVID-19, including data from clinical trials and from the vaccine’s use postauthorization.

Vaccine effectiveness against mortality
A larger number of individuals at high risk of COVID-19 and higher attack rates would be
needed to confirm efficacy of the vaccine against mortality. However, non-COVID vaccines
(e.g., influenza) that are efficacious against disease have also been shown to prevent disease associated death.13-16 Benefits in preventing death should be evaluated in large observational studies following authorization.

Vaccine effectiveness against transmission of SARS-CoV-2
Data are limited to assess the effect of the vaccine against transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from
individuals who are infected despite vaccination. Demonstrated high efficacy against
symptomatic COVID-19 may translate to overall prevention of transmission in populations with
high enough vaccine uptake, though it is possible that if efficacy against asymptomatic infection
were lower than efficacy against symptomatic infection, asymptomatic cases in combination with
reduced mask-wearing and social distancing could result in significant continued transmission.
Additional evaluations including data from clinical trials and from vaccine use post-authorization
will be needed to assess the effect of the vaccine in preventing virus shedding and
transmission, in particular in individuals with asymptomatic infection.
But, sure, we're fucking stupid.
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