## More tedium

How not to buy a brick in a box off the back of a truck.
CHARLEY_BIGTIME

### More tedium

Although I was amused by the "applicant's" name.

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Qin Wang
Lloyds TSB Pacific Limited
Hong Kong Branch
Fax: +xxx-xxx-xxxxx

I am a staff of Lloyds TSB Group attached in private Banking Services. I am contacting you
concerning a customer and, an investment placed under our banks management 3 years ago, I contacted you
independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this communication and I would like to
intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you.

In 2000, the subject matter; ref: bb/tsb/bank/73 came to our bank to engage in business
discussions with our Private Banking Services Department. He informed us that he had a financial portfolio
of 8.35 million United States Dollars, which he wished to have us turn over on his behalf. I was
the officer assigned to his case; I made numerous suggestions in line with my duties as the de-facto
chief operations officer of the Private Banking Services Department, especially given the volume
of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous occasions prior to any investments
being placed. I encouraged him to consider various growth funds with prime ratings. The favoured route
in my advice to customers is to start by assessing data on 600 traditional stocks and bond
managers and alternative investments. Based on my advice, we spun the money around various opportunities
and made attractive margins for our first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest
stood at this point at over 10 million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential
of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments.

In mid 2001, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent investment
requiring cash payments in Europe. He directed that I liquidate the funds and had it deposited
with a firm in Europe. I informed him that our bank would have to make special arrangements to have
this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction
from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He complained about the charges but
later came around when I explained to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash
movement across borders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11.

I contacted my affiliate in Europe and had the funds available in main land Europe. I undertook
all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds
deposited in a security consultancy firm, the firm is a specialist private firm that accepts
deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or
undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private
organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with
instructions, the money was deposited. He told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his
arrival from Norway later that week. This was the last communication we had, this transpired around
25th February 2002. In June last year, we got a call from the security firm informing us of the
inactivity of that particular portfolio. This was an astounding position as far as I was concerned,
given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the
deposit, and I could not understand why he had not come forward to claim his deposit. I made futile
efforts to locate him I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations
department of our bank. Four days later, information started to trickle in, that he was apparently

A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Cannes, South of
France. We were soon enough able to identify the body and cause of death was confirmed. The bank
immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next of kin to alert about the situation
and also to come forward to claim his estate. If you are familiar with private banking affairs,
those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachment from
conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private
banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence, accounts are rarely held
under a name; depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives
the choice to depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring
that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin. Private
banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually in most cases leave wills in
our care, in this case; he died in testate.

What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to understand
something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking
world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those
who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put
together the general direction of what I propose. There is US$8,370,000.00 deposited, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as the finance firm, the transaction with our deceased customer concluded when I sent the funds to the firm, all outstanding interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process. The finance firm has no single idea of what's the history or nature of the deposit. They are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party that comes forward. This is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track this man's family; they have investigated for months and have found no family. The investigation has come to an end. My proposal; you share similar details to the late fellow; I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct the finance firm to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the money with you in half and no more. That is: I will simply nominate you as the next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share the proceeds 50/50. I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in claiming the deposit. But on the other hand, you with a similar name as the original depositor would easily pass as the beneficiary with the rights to claim. I assure you that I could have the deposit released to you in a few days. I will simply inform our bank of the final closing of the file relating to the customer. I will then officially communicate with the finance company and instruct them to release the deposit to you. With these two things: all is done. The alternative would be for us to have the firm direct the funds to another bank with you as account holder. This way there will be no need for you to think of receiving the money from the firm. We can fine-tune this based on our interactions. I am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you do not be vindictive or destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. Do not destroy my career because you do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this but people like myself who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a criminal and what I do; I do not find against good conscience, this may be hard for you to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this move. Such opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I cannot let this chance pass me by I hope you understand because for once I found myself in total control and face to face with my destiny. These chances won't pass me by. I ask that you do not destroy my chance, if you will not work with me let me know and let me move on with my life but do not destroy me. I am a family man and this is an opportunity to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward for this project and it is a task well worth undertaking. I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is from you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank. I am the only one who knows of this situation, good fortune has blessed you with a name that has planted you into the center of relevance in my life. Let's share the blessing. If you find yourself able to work with me, contact me through this email account xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com.hk If you give me positive signals, I will initiate this process towards a conclusion. I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do not want you contacting me through my official phone lines nor do I want you contacting me through my official email account. Contact me only through this email address. I do not want any direct link between you and me. My official lines are not secure lines as they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in line with our Total Quality Management Policy. Please observe this instruction religiously. Please, again, note I am a family man; I happily married with two kids. I send you this mail not without a measure of fear as to what the consequences might be, but I know within me that nothing ventured is nothing gained and that success and riches never come easy or on a platter of gold. This is the one truth I have learned from my private banking clients. Do not betray my confidence. If we can be of one accord, we should plan a meeting, soon. I await your response. Sincerely, Qin Wang =========== Deserves a response I think. Any/all suggestions gratefully accepted. Dear Mr. Wanking... CHARLEY_BIGTIME Just noticed I got two from the same bloke. 48 minutes apart. Doctor X Posts: 79464 Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm Title: Collective Messiah Location: Your Mom I think someone made a link to a guy who scammed a scammer. --J.D. CHARLEY_BIGTIME Doctor X wrote:I think someone made a link to a guy who scammed a scammer. --J.D. There's a few of them. None with so glorious a name though. Doctor X Posts: 79464 Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm Title: Collective Messiah Location: Your Mom I think the guy got his scammer to stand in an airport holding a sign saying something like "I Want Dick." He also got him to send$100 as a good faith gesture.

--J.D.
CHARLEY_BIGTIME
Doctor X wrote:I think the guy got his scammer to stand in an airport holding a sign saying something like "I Want Dick." He also got him to send $100 as a good faith gesture. --J.D. If I remember, the best one I saw akin to that was "Anita Hanchop" CHARLEY_BIGTIME Wait! Found it. http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/ Not strictly PC although there is a disclaimer. Doctor X Posts: 79464 Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm Title: Collective Messiah Location: Your Mom Huh! I do not know if it is the same group--it was one guy and it was a different story--he got the guy to send him$100.00 then contacted the authorities with his address!!

I will look about the link you gave though . . . looks funny!

--J.D.
CHARLEY_BIGTIME
Well, well, well.

Persistent - but with short term memory problems.

======================

Qin Wang
Lloyds TSB Pacific Limited
Hong Kong
http://www.lloydstsb.
com.hk

Attention,

Thank you for giving me your time, it is of great
importance for you to take care and understand every word which I have
written down below; please be patient and read the explanation in my
email.

I am a staff of Lloyds TSB Group Plc. here in Hong Kong
attached in Private Banking Services, I am contacting you concerning a
customer and an investment placed under our banks management; as a
matter of factit was 3 years ago. I would respectfully request that you
keep the contents of this mail private and also to kindly respect the
integrity of the information you come by as a result of this email. I
contacted you independently of our investigation and no one is informed
of this communication; I would like to intimate you with certain facts
that I believe would be of interest to you.

In 2001, the subject
matter; Ref: FI/TSB/958/042/0500 came to our bank to engage in business
discussions with our Private Banking Services Department. He informed
us that he had a financial portfolio of 15.37 million United States
Dollars, which he wished to have us turn over (invest) on his behalf. I
was the officer assigned to his case; I made numerous suggestions in
line with my duties as the de-facto chief operations officer of the
Private Banking Services Department,especially given the volume of
funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous occasions
prior to any investments being placed, and however I encouraged him to
consider various growth funds with prime ratings. The favored route in
my advice to customers is to start by assessing data on 600 traditional
stocks and bond managers and 200 managers of alternative investments.
Based on my advice, we spun the money around various opportunities and
made attractive margins for our first months of operation,the accrued
profit with interest included, stood at this point at over 16.2 million
United States Dollars,this margin was not the full potential of the
fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments.In mid
2002, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make
an urgent investment requiring cash payments in Europe. He directed
that I liquidate the funds and had it deposited with a firm in Europe.
I informed him that our bank would have to make special arrangements to
have this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank
would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for
banking and statutory charges. He complained about the charges but
later came around when I explained to him the complexities of the task
he was asking of us. Cash movement across borders has become especially
strict since the incidents of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate in Europe
and had the funds available in mainland Europe, I undertook all the
processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the
letter and had the funds deposited in a security consultancy firm, the
firm is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net
worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable
This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to
the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with
instructions, the money was deposited; he told me he wanted the money
there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. This
was the last communication we had, this transpired aroundbFebruary 25th
2003. In June last year, we got a call from the security firm informing
us of the inactivity of that particular portfolio. This was an
astounding position as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I
managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about
the deposit, and I could not understand why he had not come forward to
claim his
deposit.

I made futile efforts to locate him I immediately
passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations
department of our bank. Four days later, information started to trickle
in, that he was apparently dead, a person who suited his description
was declared dead of a heart attack in Cannes, South of France; we were
soon enough able to gather more
information and the cause of death was
confirmed. The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible
surviving next of kin to alert about the situation and also to come
forward to claim his estate. If you are familiar with private banking
affairs, those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but
also some levels of detachment
from conventional processes. In his bio-
data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private banking,
opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence,
accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use numbers and codes
to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice to
depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank
itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said,
rarely do they nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from
not nominating next of kin also usually in most cases leave wills in
our care, in this case; he died Intestate.

In line with our internal
processes for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our
own investigations in good faith to determine who should have right to
claim the estate, this investigation for several months were futile. We
have scanned every continent and used our private investigation
affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is this
investigation that resulted in my decision to obtain your contact
details and contact you, being as a foreigner or rather non-Asian, as a
potential benefactor of the estate even if you are in no way affiliated
with this individual (the deceased).My official capacity dictates that
I am the only party to supervise the investigation and the only party
to receive the results of the investigation. What this means, with you
being a foreigner, I have considered the fact that our dear late fellow
died with no known or identifiable family member. This leaves me as the
only person with the full picture of what the prevailing situation is
in relation to the deposit and the late beneficiary of the deposit.
According to practice, the firm shall by the end of this financial year
broadcast a request for statements of claim to our bank, failing to
receive viable claims they will most probably revert the deposit back
to our bank.This will result in the money entering our bank's
accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands and out of
the Private Banking Services Department. This will not happen if I have
my way.

What I wish to relate to you might be a smack of unethical
practice but I want you to understand something; it is only an outsider
to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking
world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught
with huge rewards for those who occupy certain offices and oversee
certain portfolios; you should have begun by now to put together the
general direction of what I propose. There is USD\$ 15,991,674(Thirteen
million, nine hundred and ninety one thousand, six hundred and seventy
four united states dollars) deposited, I alone have the deposit
details
and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to
do so.

I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as
the finance firm is concerned, the transaction with our deceased
customer concluded when I sent the funds to the firm, all outstanding
interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due
process. The finance firm has no single idea of what's the history or
nature of the deposit, they are simply awaiting instructions to release
the deposit to any party that comes forward, and this is the situation.
This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track the family
of the deceased; they have investigated for months and have found no
family but however the investigation has officially come to an end.

My proposal; I am prepared to place you in a position whereby an
instruction is given to the finance firm to officially release the
deposit to you as the closest surviving relation/associate, and all
etiquette shall be done in accordance with the rule of law, I certainly
can guarantee you that. By the common law,the power of bequeathing is
coeval with the first rudiments of the law, and this power has been
extended to all a man's Personal and Real estate (Personalty & Realty).
There is no ruling which prevents an inheritance from being so
exhausted by legacies as to render it unworthy of the heir's
acceptance; basically all persons of sound mind are competent to
bequeath and devise real and personal estate, excepting infants, with
all this I would say we have the clear advantage to carry out a smooth
and perfect operation whereby the paper work shall be coordinated in
such a way that your status as a sole beneficiary is confirmed. Upon
receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the money with you in
half and no more; that is: I will simply nominate you as the next of
kin and have them release the deposit to you; afterwards we share the
proceeds 50/50.

to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my
involvement in claiming the deposit, but on the other hand, you as a
indifferent foreigner would easily pass as the beneficiary with the
rights to claim, I assure you that I could have the deposit released to
you in a few days. I will simply inform our bank of the final closing
of the file relating to the customer, I will then officially
communicate with the finance company and instruct them to release the
deposit to you; with these two things: all is done.The alternative
would be for us to have the firm direct the funds to another bank with
you as account holder, this way there will be no need for you to think
of receiving the money from the firm. We can fine-tune this based on
our interactions, I am aware of the consequences of this proposal and I
ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should
discard this mail. I ask also, that you do not be vindictive or
destructive, if my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message
and forget I ever contacted you; please not destroy my career because
you do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this but people
like me who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the
whole private banking sector, I am not a criminal and what I do, I do
not find against good conscience, this may be hard for you to
understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this
move. Such opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I
cannot let this chance pass me by and I hope you understand,because for
once I found myself in total control and face to face with my destiny.
These chances won't pass me by, I ask that you do not destroy my
chance, if you will not work with me please let me know, and hence move
on with my life, but do not destroy me; I am a family man and this is
an occasion to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward
for this project and it is a task well worth undertaking, I have
evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is from you refusing
to work with me and alerting my bank; I am the only one who knows of
this situation,good fortune will bless you and plant you into the
center of relevance in my life, letâ€™s share the blessing.

If you find
through this email account XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX@yahoo.com.hk.am if you give
me positive signals, I will initiate this process towards a quick
conclusion.It is necessary to inform you that under no condition should
you contact me via official channels; I will simply deny knowing you
through our official lines neither do I want you contacting me through
my official email account. Contact me only through this email address
above; I do not want any direct link between you and me. My official
lines are not secure lines as they are periodically monitored to assess
our level of customer care in line with our Total Quality Management
note I am a family man; I happily married with kids, I send you this
mail not without a measure of fear as to what the consequences might
be, but I know within me that nothing ventured is nothing gained and
that success and riches never come easy or on a platter of gold,this is
the one truth I have learned from my private banking clients; do not
betray my confidence. If we can be of one accord I shall have the
pleasure of meeting you, after this task has been completed plan a
meeting.

Yours Sincerely,

Qin Wang

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Last edited by CHARLEY_BIGTIME on Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
NightG1
Posts: 5208
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:12 pm
I also like the P-P-P-Powerbook reverse scam. I think they got the scammer to pay an inflated VAT for a phonebook and some clever art work.

ETA: Sorry CHARLEY. I didn't notice your post was an update. Sorry for the derail.
Doctor X
Posts: 79464
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm
Title: Collective Messiah
Not much of an update other than the "e-mail" address.

--J.D.
CHARLEY_BIGTIME
Doctor X wrote:Not much of an update other than the "e-mail" address.