## Windows 10

The war between wetware and hardware.
Pyrrho
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### Re: Windows 10

So this might be the upgrade FAIL solution.

Witness
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Just updated (laptop). No problem. 8)
Pyrrho
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xouper
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Updated windows 10 on my laptop today via wi-fi, no problem. 8)

Updated windows professional 10 on my desktop two days ago, no problem. 8)

Updated ios on my iPad the other day, no problem. 8)

Attempted to updated osx on my Macbook Air via wi-fi and it crashed and will not restart. It's now a $1200 doorstop. I have no media from which to recover the operating system. I will attempt a clean install via wi-fi. Wish me luck. :HoppingMad: Pyrrho Posts: 33081 Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:17 am Title: Man in Black Location: Division 6 ### Re: Windows 10 FINALLY got the 1803 upgrade to install. Pretty sad when a person has to go to Reddit for a solution. Witness Posts: 35689 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: Windows 10 Good for you, and good luck to xoup. As I wrote elsewhere, I now run this (nothing fancy, of course) in admin mode, either once a month or before upgrade: Code: Select all SFC /scannow pause DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth echo "Cleanup finished" pause Seems to help. And upgraded my desktop to 1803 without problem. 8) Pyrrho Posts: 33081 Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:17 am Title: Man in Black Location: Division 6 ### Re: Windows 10 Yeah I tried that and it didn't work. Reddit solution did! :hyper: Doctor X Posts: 77662 Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm Title: Collective Messiah Location: Your Mom ### Re: Windows 10 https://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire ... 4_full.jpg --J.D. Pyrrho Posts: 33081 Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:17 am Title: Man in Black Location: Division 6 ### Re: Windows 10 ...and yes, I did make sure to check the privacy settings. "Allow Windows to track app launches..." NOPE xouper Posts: 11741 Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:52 am Title: mere ghost of his former self ### Re: Windows 10 xouper wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:43 am Updated windows 10 on my laptop today via wi-fi, no problem. 8) Updated windows professional 10 on my desktop two days ago, no problem. 8) Updated ios on my iPad the other day, no problem. 8) Attempted to updated osx on my Macbook Air via wi-fi and it crashed and will not restart. It's now a$1200 doorstop. I have no media from which to recover the operating system. I will attempt a clean install via wi-fi. Wish me luck.
Doctor X wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:58 am https://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire ... 4_full.jpg

--J.D.
Do you have any recommendations on how to get my Macbook Air out of its update hell?
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xouper
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What puzzles me is that although the iPad has sufficient computing power to develop apps for the iPad, there is no official support from Apple to do that. Instead, you must have osx and xcode on a Mac.

Grrrr. :x :x

Perhaps some day Apple will extend Playgrounds for the iPad to allow development of iPad apps on an iPad.
Witness
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What astonishes me is not so much that W10 has problems (hey! 'tis Microsoft) but the sheer variety of them. :mrgreen:
gnome
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My favorite is when some annoying step fixes it for one guy and then they make everyone do it without figuring out why, to see if everyone's wasting their time.
xouper
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Witness wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:12 am What astonishes me is not so much that W10 has problems (hey! 'tis Microsoft) but the sheer variety of them. :mrgreen:
Doesn't surprise me at all, given that windows has to accommodate a wider variety of hardware (and software) that Microsoft has little or no control over.
sparks
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Makes sense. Thank FSM I still have an install or two left on my Win7 Ultimate disk.
Witness
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xouper wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:24 am Doesn't surprise me at all, given that windows has to accommodate a wider variety of hardware (and software) that Microsoft has little or no control over.
Free enterprise vs. Party approved… :P
Pyrrho
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My scanner coughs up a hairball from time to time now. I should see if there are any updated USB drivers.
Witness
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Something for sparks:
Not upgraded to Windows 10? Microsoft offers Windows 7 users some good and bad news

MICROSOFT continues its drive to get users to switch to its latest Windows 10 software but there is some good news if you are still using Windows 7.

[…]

With so many people having yet made the switch, Microsoft has already announced that it is extending the support for this ageing software [W7] until January 14, 2020.

However, there's now more good news as the US technology giant now says users will be able to continue to get updates for Windows 7 for even longer.

In a recent post on their website, Microsoft confirmed: "As previously announced, Windows 7 extended support is ending January 14, 2020. While many of you are already well on your way in deploying Windows 10, we understand that everyone is at a different point in the upgrade process.

"With that in mind, today we are announcing that we will offer Windows 7 Extended Security Updates (ESU) through January 2023."

Many will be pleased to hear this news but there is a catch.

Those wanting to get support for Windows 7 past the 2020 deadline will have to pay for the privilege.
And for Pyrrho:
The news of this extended support comes as a new version of Windows 10 looks set to be released next month.

Previously only known as its codename, Redstone 5, the newest iteration of Windows 10 will be rolled out as the "Windows 10 October 2018 Update".

The update will bring dramatic changes that Microsoft insists will make its software better than ever.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/sc ... Windows-10

:mrgreen:
Witness
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And something for Abdul:

https://i.imgur.com/0w803Mb.jpg
💖 I've been pretty humbled by how much people love this dumb little app. I've added a few features and cleaned a few things up, notably:
• You can now mount the disk image (on Windows 10 and macOS)
• The app auto-updates (Windows does not, it'll stay on Windows 95)
• You can now see the CPU and HDD working
• You can now send Ctrl + Alt + Del and reboot the machine from the window menu
Source: https://github.com/felixrieseberg/windows95/releases
Witness
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Microsoft announces app mirroring to let you use any Android app on Windows 10

Helping fill the gap left by the Windows Phone

Microsoft announced a new feature for Windows 10 today that will let Android phone users view and use any app on their device from a Windows desktop. The feature, which Microsoft is referring to as app mirroring and shows up in Windows as an app called Your Phone, seems to be work best with Android for now. Although Microsoft did announce the ability to transfer webpages from an iPhone to a Windows 10 desktop so you can pick up where you left off on mobile.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/2/1792 ... 10-desktop (video at the link)
Pyrrho
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xouper
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Pyrrho wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:49 am Sure, I will let Microsoft have access to my phone.
Grammatron
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That was sarcasm
Witness
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Be careful: Some users are complaining the Windows 10 October 2018 update is deleting their files.

:mrgreen:

Addendum (article from may, but it's about the October update): Using Windows 10’s New Clipboard: History and Cloud Sync.

Clipboard history + syncing, what could go wrong? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
gnome
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Shows symptoms of a corrupted local profile. If that works like it did in previous versions of windows, it doesn't actually delete anything, as the profile and the data still exists. It just creates a blank profile that it shoves you into making it look like you've lost everything. The files are still available on the hard drive if you know where to look.
Witness
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μ\$oft killed my boot options, had to re-enable from scratch. :x
Witness
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Could go in the "Ship of fail" thread:
Microsoft is building a Chromium-powered web browser that will replace Edge on Windows 10

Microsoft is throwing in the towel with Edge and is building a new web browser for Windows 10, this time powered by Chromium.

Microsoft's Edge web browser has seen little success since its debut on Windows 10 in 2015. Built from the ground up with a new rendering engine known as EdgeHTML, Microsoft Edge was designed to be fast, lightweight, and secure, but it launched with a plethora of issues that resulted in users rejecting it early on. Edge has since struggled to gain traction, thanks to its continued instability and lack of mindshare, from users and web developers.

Because of this, I'm told that Microsoft is throwing in the towel with EdgeHTML and is instead building a new web browser powered by Chromium, which uses a similar rendering engine first popularized by Google's Chrome browser known as Blink. Codenamed "Anaheim," this new browser for Windows 10 will replace Edge as the default browser on the platform, according to my sources, who wish to remain anonymous. It's unknown at this time if Anaheim will use the Edge brand or a new brand, or if the user interface (UI) between Edge and Anaheim is different. One thing is for sure, however; EdgeHTML in Windows 10's default browser is dead.
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsof ... windows-10
Witness
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Windows 10 Will Soon “Reserve” 7 GB of Your Storage for Updates

Windows Updates need a lot of disk space, which is a problem on devices with small amounts of internal storage. Microsoft is fixing this by “reserving” some disk space for updates in the next version of Windows 10, codenamed 19H1.

Microsoft has been pushing cheap laptops with small hard drives for years now. But anyone who has ever used one has quickly run into a major issue: They usually don’t have enough storage left over to install major updates. This leaves them without important patches, security fixes, and new features. While you shouldn’t update to the latest version of Windows on the first day, you do want to eventually get there. So this is a serious problem.
[…]
Microsoft is trying to address this with a method that is bound to be controversial. Starting in the next major release (and available to Insiders now), Microsoft will reserve at least 7 gigabytes of space on your hard drive.

The space won’t go completely wasted. Windows will store temporary files here when space isn’t needed for updates. Files created by apps and processes that would have taken space anyway will now go into this reserved storage. When it’s time to update, Windows will automatically delete all the files in reserved storage and use the space for downloading update files.
[…]
Microsoft says reserved storage should start at around 7 gigabytes and go up from there.
Pyrrho
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Witness
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↑ This is slightly misleading: you'd have to download a MHT file and then double-click on it, launching IE (default option) to open it. That's not "never using it".
Everything scraped from the Internet is potentially dangerous, as we all know already.
And if you don't use IE anyway, you'll probably have configured your favorite browser to also be the default for MHT files, no? (I presume all browsers are able to do that, but I could be wrong.)
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Witness
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Not W10 directly:
Ebooks Purchased From Microsoft Will Be Deleted This Month Because You Don't Really Own Anything Anymore

Anyone who bought ebooks through the Microsoft Store is in for a rude shock in the coming days. The good news? You can get a refund. The bad news? All of your books are going to be deleted this month.

Microsoft announced in April that it would stop selling ebooks and that any books the company already sold would stop working in early July because the DRM servers were being shut off. Yes, you read that correctly. Those books that you “bought” are going to disappear. Even the “free” books that you downloaded through Microsoft will be deleted.

Microsoft started selling ebooks back in 2017 but tech limitations made them unpopular with users. As my colleague Alex Cranz explained back in April, anyone who bought Microsoft’s ebooks had to use Microsoft’s Edge browser and the company never made a dedicated ebook reader application. The books also came with restrictive DRM, the digital locks on media that prohibit people from sharing the files with others. Unfortunately, the existence of those same locks are the precise reason that Microsoft can pull the plug on your books remotely.
https://gizmodo.com/ebooks-purchased-fr ... 1836005672
Rob Lister
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The DRM they use is easily removed using a Calibre plug-in Apprentice Alf or ConvertLit.

https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com
http://convertlit.com/

But even if it were not, all the books they sold are available DRM-free, for free, at many elsewheres.
Witness
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↑ Sure, but the point is that you don't own anymore some stuff you however have to buy.
Rob Lister
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Witness wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:38 am ↑ Sure, but the point is that you don't own anymore some stuff you however have to buy.
You pays the dime and takes your chances. And besides, the buyer is made whole. I've got no beef.
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Oh hey?

When I bought my last laptop it had Win8somethingorother on it and I immediately wiped it and put Win7 Ultimate on it. No problems. Question is, if I buy some new shit-hot laptop with Win10somethingorother on it, will it run Win7 Ultimate?

Because, you know, fuck Win10.
Rob Lister
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No idea but not a great idea. 7 is no longer supported.
sparks
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Yep, I know. But I really like 7 and I've heard nothing but shit about 10. Bloatware that keeps coming back with every update. And it phones home with way too much information about the user. Now, perhaps that's just bullshit. I really don't know.

That's why I'm asking this august body what they think and I appreciate your response Rob. Thanks.
Witness
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sparks wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:16 am Yep, I know. But I really like 7 and I've heard nothing but shit about 10. Bloatware that keeps coming back with every update. And it phones home with way too much information about the user. Now, perhaps that's just bullshit. I really don't know.

That's why I'm asking this august body what they think and I appreciate your response Rob. Thanks.
Relax, sparks, W10 is OK. Not awesome, but OK.

And Rob is right, W7 is dying.

You can (and should) disable most "phoning home" with O&O Shutup 10. Free, portable.

And W10 will kowtow to your perverse desires with Winaero Tweaker. Free, portable.

(If really you feel you have to use W7, you can do it inside Virtualbox [Hell, you can even run Mac OS there], or set up a dual boot. But I see no point in that.)

Now the killer: I heard rumors that, contrary to what Microsoft touted, W10 won't finally be the last Windows ever but that a successor is in the works. :notsure: